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[Ivan le Fou]

What was it marsch used to say back in themess.net time?

Guns are only for you to compensate something? Or something along these lines?

 

[riderboy]

What was it marsch used to say back in themess.net time?

Guns are only for you to compensate something? Or something along these lines?

Ah yes. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. In his case, he was right. To compensate for a lack of police protection and keep your home, business and car from being looted and torched and having the living snot beaten out of you by an angry mob for no apparent reason.

 

[HisRoyalHighness]

Ah yes. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. In his case, he was right. To compensate for a lack of police protection and keep your home, business and car from being looted and torched and having the living snot beaten out of you by an angry mob for no apparent reason.

Also calling the police is now considered privileged:

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This brainlet is an official in Minneapolis. We need Self-Defense Militias at this point.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

She didn't answer the question though.

If in the middle of the night your home is broken into: who do you cal??
You get mugged: who do you call?
You get assaulted: who do you call?
You get raped: who do you call?
A crime is committed: who do you call???

 

[primer]

Ghostbusters

 

[Mike1976]

She didn't answer the question though.

If in the middle of the night your home is broken into:
You get mugged:
You get assaulted:
You get raped:
A crime is committed:

This magic implement stops every type of crime*



*Source: People who have never been the victim of a crime.

 

[primer]

Has a shipment of possum skinning pocket knives rejected by UK customs. So to be used by Kiwis in NZ gets stopped in UK airport in transit to NZ and sent back the Europe. What a joke. Oversized by a cm.
Silly but I thought that about our gun laws ..until they hijacked those and now we have the worst knee jerk kind in the world or thereabouts.

 

[HisRoyalHighness]

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Thanks Roberts you asshole.

Thankfully, real patriots are making progress in ensuring guns and ammunition are readily available for the people no matter the law:

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[primer]

Dear Supporter,

In case you’ve not seen it, this morning Stuff broke the most incredible story: sources inside Police say that Brenton Tarrant was given a firearm licence without going through the required vetting – a breach of the Police’s own policy.

The story is online here: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/120285768/mosque-terrorist-was-wrongly-granted-firearms-licence-due-to-police-mistakes-sources-say

In our submission to the Royal Commission, we raised this very point – but media paid no attention until they had sources within the Police confirming our allegations. Now they do!

Why has it taken so long for this information to become public? Did Labour and NZ First know about this Police failure, but took the opportunity to go after licensed firearm owners anyway?

Copied below is the media release we issued this morning in response to the story.

We’ll keep you updated on this issue as it develops,

MEDIA RELEASE

POLICE COVER-UP BIGGEST LAW AND ORDER SCANDAL IN NZ HISTORY


TUESDAY 16 JUNE 2020
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


Confirmation today: 51 people died and 250,000 New Zealanders had their way of life severely curtailed because of one mistake: Police failed to follow existing licensing laws.

The Council of Licenced Firearms Owners (COLFO) has today responded with anger at confirmation from sources inside Police that Brenton Tarrant was given a firearm licence without going through the required procedures.

COLFO spokesperson Nicole McKee says that the revelations in news media today are the start of the biggest scandal in the history of New Zealand Police – bigger even than the infamous Arthur Allan Thomas affair.

“51 people died and 250,000 New Zealanders had their way of life severely curtailed because of one mistake: Police failed to apply the existing licensing laws.

“Police were in front Jacinda Ardern within 24 hours in what now looks like an attempt to distract politicians and media from their direct responsibility; that starts unravelling now.

“Following the Christchurch shooting, the Police advised Cabinet and a Select Committee to change firearm laws, they took firearms from innocent and safe New Zealanders, and they claimed to the public they were making New Zealander safer.

“Yet all along, it was they who had made the fatal mistake.

“They have known, and never admitted, that the existing licensing and firearm laws were adequate, and it was they themselves who failed to apply it.

“In recent months they have had the gall to advise MPs against improvements to the Arms Bill, especially to remove administration of gun law from Police to a dedicated agency. That Bill is only on Parliament’s Order Paper because of opportunist Police advice to Cabinet. $150m, later, they’ve destroyed their relationship with firearms owners, and NZ’s great history of collaborative control of gun ownership, we now know it was not our licensing laws that were at fault.”


ENDS

 

[TheKiwi]

Yes that is the biggest shock in the history of non-shocking things. We all knew that the Police f****d-up in a serious way and then had the gall to claim that they had followed the correct proceedures.

 

[Jake84]

Thanks for reporting this primer. Something I didn’t know and wouldn’t expect to read on BBC, the outlet which literally has its tongue up Jacinda’s butt. Pardon my French.

 

[HisRoyalHighness]

Yes that is the biggest shock in the history of non-shocking things. We all knew that the Police f****d-up in a serious way and then had the gall to claim that they had followed the correct proceedures.

Does that mean that Kiwis are going to get their guns back then?

 

[primer]

.... they have alot more guns lately.

 

[NZM305]

I wonder how many animals I need to have to be classified as a farm?? ?

 

[riderboy]

 

[HisRoyalHighness]

OSD 69: SCOTUS out, time to build

Then things got weird. NYC repealed its ban on transporting handguns out of the city, in an attempt to moot NYSRPA before the Court could rule squarely on the 2A merits. And it worked — the Court ruled the case moot, avoiding the 2A question. But the opinions were interesting: Thomas, Gorsuch, and Alito all dissented head-on. Kavanaugh wrote a nuanced concurrence, agreeing that the case was technically moot but noting “that some federal and state courts may not be properly applying Heller and McDonald” and that the “Court should address that issue soon, perhaps in one of the several Second Amendment cases with petitions for certiorari now pending before the Court.”

That last sentence sums it up. You’ve got four justices tipping their hands that they’d vote to grant cert on more 2A cases. Remember, four votes is all you need. And then two months later, all ten 2A cases before the Court get denied?

That can only have happened if at least one of the four justices voted to deny. Their track records on this are all long enough that they wouldn’t have done that out of a change of heart. The much likelier explanation is simple: they knew they had four votes, but didn’t know if they had five. And they’d rather deny cert on gun cases until they’re sure they have a fifth vote, to avoid setting bad 2A precedent.

So now we know where things stand. We shouldn’t expect any 2A cases to be heard by the current Court. Supreme Court action is extremely powerful, which is why it draws so much attention, but it’s just one avenue. And for guns, it has been a less important one than you might expect. Heller and McDonald were landmarks but they had minimal real-world effects — they mostly only affected D.C. and Chicago.

All the progress we’ve made as a community — the CCW tidal wave; the AR-15’s ascent into ubiquity; the long-term polling shifting towards gun rights, especially among young people — that has all been done with essentially zero help from the courts. So the job today is the same as it was yesterday: keep the work going. Make more gun owners. Train them up. Build the community. Be cool and friendly. If this whole community keeps working on that like it has been for the past 10+ years, we’re going to get the results that we all want to see.

OSD 69: SCOTUS out, time to build

The Court denied all ten pending 2A cases. But our new path forward is the same as the old one.

opensourcedefense.substack.com

Yep, it's definitely Roberts.

 

[riderboy]

 

[ao_sepia]

5.56nato,7.62r,5.45,or more?

 

[riderboy]

5.56nato,7.62r,5.45,or more?

7.62!

 

[ao_sepia]

7.62!

7.62r 1round = 0.074cents!