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They seem to be sending out polls for govt departments. Like they don't know? Civil Aviation is equally on par.
 
You know how sometimes organisations ask questions that they really shouldn't of cause they aren't goin to like the answer, i think this is one of those times lol
I game them "no confidence" for all their questions because they really are a bunch of muppets.
I did it as well to, you know, show solidarity with my Kiwi brethren ,-aus

Blew them a raspberry also ;)
 
David Parker...a cabinet minister in NZ of no fame was on TV and said that banning under 16's from responsibly practicing at a range under surpervision was a good idea.

So I emailed him for an intelligent reason for that and got no reply.
 
David Parker...a cabinet minister in NZ of no fame was on TV and said that banning under 16's from responsibly practicing at a range under surpervision was a good idea.

So I emailed him for an intelligent reason for that and got no reply.
It seems that politicians no matter what country, feel they have to justify their actions with their constituents.
 
My brother was given his firearms license. I sat mine and the policeman helped a couple of guys with multi choice.
How times changed.
Couple of nutters latter and here we are. Pure politics while the gangs run amok with guns. Where is any intelligence in that.
 
One of my mates. His family bought a rural property and a clay pigeon thrower. They had to jump through some hoops to get a gun license. My mate got his license and bought an over-under shotgun. The local cop actually came around to their house (they don't live there it's like a holiday home) and checked out their gun safe etc.

Clay pigeon shooting is fun. :)

There are loopholes (which can be exploited) when it comes to legally owning firearms. At least in WA but I won't go into them in depth. Because the UN may be monitoring this forum. I am making a joke....relax.
 
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Although I do have to add that some media pundits in the US claiming that Australian's cannot easily obtain firearms. As long as they are reputable citizens. That previous sentence is very important. Is a load of crap.

However we cannot buy the fun stuff like SKS and AR style rifles anymore although I do remember those day.. If it isn't a semi automatic rifle yes we can.

I still remember shooting semi automatic .22 rifles with a 10 round magazine in high school. Army cadets. That was fun.
 
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NSW is moving in the direction of banning "fun" firearms uses like clays and general plinking. Because... reasons.
 
The only state GSP I care about is WA the rest of the country can piss off.


"With its huge $5.7 billion surplus — though slightly less than last year's $5.8bn — the 2022 WA budget offers a plethora of riches for the state." The rest of the country can deal with it's own issues.
 
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NSW is moving in the direction of banning "fun" firearms uses like clays and general plinking. Because... reasons.
Seriously dude. If you want to know the loopholes to legal firearms ownership in WA. PM/DM me.
 
I'll stick to NZ where I can at least have some fun toys (like my Jard J72 semi auto in .17 WSM).

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I'm not sure that I'm sold on this concept. The ammo will be difficult to make so ramping up in the case of an emergency will also be difficult. Also, the pressures are extremely high, which will result in much higher than normal wear, thus incurring higher costs. Also, these rifles are heavy. This seems to be going in the opposite direction that would desired. Lastly, physics dictates that, all else being equal, there will be fairly substantial recoil due to the heavy bullet combined with high velocity.
 
Longer lethal range is what they wanted. Make use of all those yanks who know how to shoot steady thanks to the 2nd amendment and being allowed to practice it. Its a natural resource pretty soon none else will have
 
It's not that heavy a round. Less than .308.
That's true. However, the .308 bullet weight isn't that much more and the velocity is less. From what I've been able to find, leveling out to a 16" or so barrel length, the .308 M80 ball has a velocity of 2690 ft/s and a weight of 147 grains. The .277 Fury (6.8x 51) has a bullet weight of 140 grains and a velocity of 2970 ft/s. Making some assumptions about the weight of the rifle being equal and the powder weight being equal and using the site listed below, it looks like the 308 recoils just a little bit less, but not a huge amount. From my perspective, I think that both are a bit heavy for a general issue weapon in terms of weight and recoil. That being said, in open territory such as Afghanistan, the extra range is probably needed.

 
Longer lethal range is what they wanted. Make use of all those yanks who know how to shoot steady thanks to the 2nd amendment and being allowed to practice it. Its a natural resource pretty soon none else will have
Legends not withstanding, most of us who get to practice rarely get to practice beyond 50 or 100 yards. I get a chance to do 200 yards about 3-4 times per year and 600 yards about once a year and I'm lucky.
 
The suppressor on the end will be making a difference. Its now bigger than the ones seen earlier in trials. Someone said 13 inch barrel. But fast propellant.
I wonder if it will save the old but venerable 270?
 

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