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(this story is not new to the Aussies who experienced 2020 downunder) shocking none the less!
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Indeed! 🧐
 
They have been found.

They drowned in their M88 when it ran into a swamp.

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If they were by themselves, they were on a real recovery mission as part of a section of an MST team. When MST's train, they never lone wolf it as it's a bad risk assessment to begin with and will always be declined unless it's within the motor pool or in motor park areas only.

I'm guessing from a very seasoned BTDT POV that a combination of a lack of situation awareness and a lack of proper crew rest happened.
RIP to my brothers from another mother.
 
Maybe they got lost, missed a turn, etc...

Swamps in that part of the world are rather unforgiving. Wrecks from ww2 are still found on a regular basis.
 
Maybe they got lost, missed a turn, etc...

Swamps in that part of the world are rather unforgiving. Wrecks from ww2 are still found on a regular basis.
Mechanics are often notoriously overworked and not given enough rest as is. Put them on recovery missions and it's even worse because it's an additional duty with no crew rest cycles. Non combat MOS leaderships have always been oblivious and think that stagnant soldiers are being lazy so they crack whips without realizing that wrecker crews need actual rest. Those newer wreckers M88 Hercules has BLUFOR trackers and with maps that move when they move and so on, and give off warnings of danger areas.

And they're given safety briefs on where to avoid prior to. Guaranteed this happened because of a bad leadership issue and not a crew issue regarding personnel.

I've personally witnessed a warrant officer getting upset because his maintenance teams were being overworked and accidents that were easily preventable had happened. In another separate occasion in Iraq during a deployment of mine, a usually smart thinking SGT had given a bad order because he hadn't slept in days due to a very high optempo and wasn't in his right mind, and a soldier performing a field repair on an M1031 lost a finger.
 
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Food for thought
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Thing with Joe Biden is we don't know how extensive the damages were.

Just like we have no idea what the actual damages are either. The ones we are aware of are the ones we know, so far. It is very likely a lot of them won't be ever discovered.
 
Russia keeps destroying Finnish war memorials that were set up with common understanding after fall of soviet union. Naturally there is a treaty to protect memorials of each country that is located in territory of the other.

Russian media: Text on Ihantala Battle memorial stone to be removed as “illegal”
In Russia, it is claimed that the monument was not authorized by the Vyborg authorities. In reality, official permission was obtained in the late 1990s, and Russian representatives also participated in several celebrations at the stone.

Og47.ru, a website focused on news from the Leningrad region, reports that the Vyborg City Court has ordered the Kamennogorsk municipality to remove the text honoring Finnish soldiers from the memorial stone to the battles of Ihantala.

The stone reads in Finnish and Russian the same text: 1944 – Battles of Ihantala – glory to the heroes.

According to the article, experts from St. Petersburg State University have conducted a psychological-linguistic analysis, according to which the text carved into the stone “heroizes” Finnish soldiers. The justification also notes that German soldiers also participated in the battles of Ihantala, so honoring them “violates the facts established at the Nuremberg trials.”

According to Russian media, the Vyborg City Prosecutor’s Office recently appealed to the Vyborg City Court and demanded that the Kamennogorsk municipal administration take action to remove the “illegal text.” When Kamennogorsk was part of Finland, it was known as Antrea.

The grounds for removal also mention that the text was carved into the stone “without the permission of the local authorities”.

In reality, however, permission had been obtained from the Vyborg district administration. One of the key people who gave permission in the late 1990s was the then cultural director and deputy mayor Boris Pevtsov. This is evident from Teuvo Kuparinen’s book Carved into Stone.

In July 1999, the monument was finally unveiled, and a large group of Finnish veterans were present at the ceremony. Pevtsov spoke on behalf of the Russians, and former Minister of Defense Taisto Tähkämaa spoke on behalf of the Finns. The large natural stone with its commemorative text was given the name Veteraanikivi.

In 2004, a spectacular memorial celebration was held at the stone, which was attended by an estimated 3,000 people. Most of the celebrants were Finns, but local representatives of the Vyborg district administration were also present. At the same time, flowers were also laid at the nearby Portinhoikan Soviet soldiers' memorial.

 

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