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The Finance and Expenditure Committee has reported back on the Arms Legislation Bill (the “second tranche”). Here’s what you need to know.

The Government parties on the Committee (Labour and NZ First) have voted for the bill to proceed. It is largely unchanged and the juggernaut rolls on. We thought NZ First might use their swing vote to alter the legislation, but no. What follows is a summary of some (but not all) key points. You can read the full report and revised text of the bill here. ACT’s minority view on the bill is included in the report from page 25 onwards. It is also reprinted at the bottom of this email.

What happens next? It is likely that the bill will be debated again in the full Parliament next week, and be passed into law in early March, unless one of the Government parties defects.

The Good (Well, better than before…)

There have been a (very) few changes that improve the bill from what it was before. Sadly, they are out of all proportion to the opposition the bill has attracted. They are:

• Temporary transfers of a firearm don’t have to be registered. Obviously, we still oppose the register, but effectively giving a 30-day grace period means you don’t have to log on and register passing your rifle to a mate in the bush.
• Some improvements to privacy protections to the register. Again, the problem is there’s still a register.
• The law for issuing a licence if you pass the fit and proper person test has been changed from “may” to “must”. The earlier version of the bill basically said even if you were fit and proper an arms officer could just arbitrarily refuse you.
• 10-year licence periods. The original version suggested five-year licence renewals, now the bill recommends an initial five-year period followed by 10-year periods after that.
• Seven-day notice. The original version said Police could inspect your home with “reasonable” notice, it now requires seven days.
• A club won’t need a dealers’ licence if it distributes ammunition as part of a club, as the original version of the bill required.

The Bad

• The bill still legislates a registry of all firearms to be implemented within two years of the law passing.
• The bill still places onerous requirements that will make it harder to operate a club when clubs are a part of responsible firearm use.
• The bill still breaches the privacy of the doctor-patient relationship.
• The bill still focuses on licenced firearm owners, treating them like criminals while doing nothing to punish those holding and using firearms outside the licensing regime.
• It’s unclear how anything in the bill would do anything to prevent the tragedy that set off this set of laws.

The Ugly

• The Select Committee reporting time was shortened and made shorter still by Parliament not sitting for nearly two months over Christmas.
• The Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Christchurch tragedy will not have reported when this bill is passed. It’s hard to solve a problem if you don’t know what it is.
• The law is intended to be passed in time for the 15 March anniversary. There is nothing worse than passing laws for political theatre instead of public safety.
• Despite the overwhelming opposition to the bill, no substantial changes have been made from the way it was introduced.

Needless to say, ACT will campaign for the rest of the year to take Parliament back for a centre-right government, and work with our National Party allies to reverse the worst parts of this legislation, restore dignity to people who’ve been abused despite doing nothing wrong, and address the real failures that led to the Christchurch tragedy.

If you know people who might like to join ACT’s campaign and receive updates such as this one, please share this link so that they can sign up. You can also donate to support ACT’s campaign here or join the party here.

The ACT Party minority view from the report is reprinted below.

ACT Party minority view

Recommendation: the ACT Party member recommends that the legislation be abandoned.

Prelude

In the aftermath of our nation’s tragedy in Christchurch, it was clear that there would be changes to the laws and administration of firearm laws in New Zealand. What could never have been predicted was the poor quality of response from the Government parties and even one Opposition party responsible for holding the Government accountable. The April 2019 Arms Amendment Act that preceded the current legislation has led to a series of failures. The most obvious is that the Government openly accepts it does not know what proportion of prohibited firearms were handed in to the so-called buy-back. A subtler but perhaps more important failure is a precipitous measured decline in trust in the Police that was evident in many submissions. The Government’s changes have significantly impacted law-abiding firearm owners, without actually impacting criminals or would-be terrorists.

Against that backdrop, the Minister of Police introduced this Arms Legislation Bill. Before reviewing the contents of the bill, and the submissions to it, it is worth making some remarks about the timing.

Timing of the bill and parliamentary procedure

The bill was first read on 24 September 2019. In the normal course of events, it would be referred to the Justice Committee with instructions to report back to the House within six months, on 24 March 2020. The Finance and Expenditure Committee was given special instructions to report back by 10 February 2020. This has two effects. One is that the committee has had less time than usual to consider the bill, and far less time than usual considering the House has not sat from 18 December 2019 until 11 February 2020. The second effect is that it is difficult to avoid thinking that the Government has cynically sent the bill to a committee that usually deals with financial matters simply because it has a majority on this committee (but not the more logical Justice Committee), and asked for it to be reported back in time to pass third reading before the 15 March anniversary. It is difficult to avoid thinking the Government has prioritised political theatrics over public safety.

A more substantive concern is that the bill will be passed before the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Christchurch tragedy has reported back. It is logical that the Government has an inquiry to find out what went wrong and legislation to fix it, but totally illogical that the legislation will be passed before the inquiry reports back.

Submissions

The ACT Party member acknowledges that the submissions made were overwhelmingly critical of the bill. Submitters seemed anxious to impress that firearms were a part of their life and often their work. They often had family activities centred on firearms. They displayed considerable knowledge of the practicalities of regulating firearm activities and gave practical reasons why they would not work.

The ACT Party member was saddened to see the Chair of the committee often attack submitters and argue with submitters; however, the member accepts that there was considerable tension around the legislation. Members of the New Zealand First Party and the New Zealand Labour Party do not accept this characterisation.

The ACT Party member was constantly underwhelmed by the Police. They frequently presented arguments that were easily undermined by basic enquiry. With great sad- ness, the ACT Party member concluded that the Police should not be the policy advice department in this area. The advice does not assist in making good policy, and the process of giving it erodes the Police’s reputation, in the member’s view.

Contents of the bill
Registration

The bill creates a requirement for all firearms to be registered. The committee heard extensive submissions about a firearm register. Overwhelmingly, submitters opposed a register. They cited that a register would be inaccurate. In particular, some submitters who had had E-Category firearms (which were registered) noted that that register was routinely incorrect. Others noted the cost of registers overseas. Others noted the adverse selection problem, that the most dangerous people would not register their firearms. Others noted that a register would create a security risk if details of where and what type of firearms were stored got leaked into criminal hands. We were told that modern technology would make it easier to store a safe and accurate register. However, we also heard from submitters well versed in database technology that this view was naïve. The latter submitters pointed out that while database technology has indeed improved over the decades, the challenges with such registers occur at the human interface.

In particular, the bill as introduced required real-time up-to-date registration of firearms. Submitters pointed out the absurdity of this. Some submitters contended that following the law as written would require them to update the database from the bush if they handed a rifle to a mate. If the bill proceeds, relaxation of these requirements to something more practical would be welcome. However, the ACT Party member notes, and found in questioning, that if the requirements are relaxed long enough for, say, a firearm to spend a week at a friend’s house, they are relaxed enough for a crime to be committed, giving the lie to the claim that registration makes anyone safer in the first place.

Club regulations

The bill imposes a new regulatory regime on clubs. We heard that this provision will have the opposite of its intended effect. New Zealand hunting and shooting clubs have long led the way in their promotion of, and provision of training for, safe firearms handling. Instead of ensuring more licensed firearm owners shoot with the supervision and support of a club, people will be less likely to form clubs and some existing clubs may even disband if their volunteer members are unable or afraid to meet this new burden of regulatory compliance.

Doctor-patient relationship

The doctor-patient relationship has long been a privileged one. The bill as introduced made a “suggestion” that doctors speak to Police if a person with a firearm licence faced mental health challenges. Proponents of this provision have been keen to claim that the provision was not mandatory. However, that being the case, it makes no difference from the status quo where doctors had the possibility of reporting a person in danger to other authorities but are not required to. Altogether, the introduction of this provision has needlessly stigmatised mental health challenges for no gain of any kind.

Manufacturing

The committee heard from submitters who manufacture firearms that their businesses will be severely impaired by the new regulations proposed for manufacturing. Given their business involved machining and fabricating high-value customised parts, it is unclear how regulating them further will prevent harm. The real harm comes from illicit manufacturing by unlicensed manufacturers, which of course is already illegal.

Licence period

There was some discussion of the licensing period. The bill as introduced proposed a 5-year licensing period. As the discussion progressed, it became clear to the ACT Party member that a more frequent relicensing period would simply become a perfunctory process. As the administrators sought to economise on resources, this process would be at the expense of ad hoc monitoring of reported threats about those in the middle of a licence period, and proper vetting of those at the end of a licence period. Again, a well-intentioned but ultimately counterproductive proposal that characterises the bill.

Conclusion

Altogether this has been a flawed process. The parliamentary procedure and timing has been disappointing, although the ACT Party member has been impressed with many of the submissions made. The member believes that the submission process has shown the bill does more harm than good, and recommends that it be returned to the House with a recommendation that it not proceed.
 
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SAVAGE DOWN UNDER: The A22R Lever Action Repeater
As you may or may not know, in Australia most semiautomatic firearms are not available to the civilian population – this surprisingly includes rimfire rifles. Thanks to an email from John of Firearms Owners United, we are getting a look at a series of new Savage Arms rifles that are classified as manual actions, but operate similar to a semiautomatic action. Upon firing, the Savage A22R bolt locks to the rear and a lever on the underside is used to close the bolt and chamber another round. It looks like a little practice will get shooters into rapid fire heaven fairly quickly using this new lever action repeater.
 
And over the pond..

Centrefire pump-action riflesIn addition to the regulation-making power in clause 82A that would enable pumpaction firearms to be prohibited by Order in Council, we recommend, for transpar-ency, that the bill be amended to expressly identify centrefire pump-action rifles asprohibited firearms. This would also have the benefit of allowing the owners of suchpump-action rifles to promptly access the amnesty and compensation scheme that wepropose.
 
The Founding Fathers would tar and feather him for this idiocy. “Give up, the Government is too powerful and I would airstrike you with hellfire loaded F-15s!” Yeah, the first patriots fought a military superpower and still won (with help from allies of course).
I gotta admit, I think he's not totally wrong with what he said, and your interpretation of the old crock's comments there might not be on-point.

The Second Amendment strikes me as a magnificient tool to pre-empt a covert crackdown on civil liberties targeting individuals. For example, the Russian government has had no fewer than 50 journalists and civil activists killed over the past twenty years; in contrast, no American dissident has to face the wrath of those in power without the means to protect their person and their family.

But there's one aspect of the Second Amendment that, much to my surprise, is always flying under the radar: What if the armed part of the populace embraces a tyrannical government? With all the smugness of a wise-ass foreigner, allow me to ask you this: What did the Second Amendment do to end racial segregation or to avert Patriot Act? Why was there no protest like the one in Virginia last week so as to chase Richard Nixon out of office?

In short, is the average American gun owner truly as wary of threats to democracy?

If that's too contentious for your liking, just look at other presumed pillars of democracy. Wouldn't you agree that journalists nowadays don't use their protected rights to serve freedom and democracy? My point is, any right is only worth as much as the person putting it to good use, and I think your image of human nature is too optimistic.

I for one, if I were that confident in anybody's willingness to stand up for my rights, would rather put my stock in the determination of a soldier or police officer to disobey tyrannical orders, since it seems to me that Biden is right in one regard: in the unlikely event of an all-out coup d'etat (even one that's opposed by a large majority of the population), the military is still much too powerful to be taken on by average citizens.
 
The British Empire was considered too powerful to be taken on and yet the Founding Fathers did so anyway.

There are many arguments and an excellent 4chan meme (about the only meme I like from that dumpster fire) to address the defeatist mindset about the 2A; however, I’ll give you my personal interpretation:

There are 120 million gun owners in America, let’s say only 1% of them decide enough is enough and rise up against a hypothetical tyrannical government...that’s still 1.2 million armed civilians that the government will have to find a way to deal with.

To put matters into perspective, the Taliban only number 30,000. Yet no matter how much they are slaughtered by the long talons of American Justice, they are still fighting 19 years later and right now control half the country.

Likewise, the same can be said with IS which is still somehow enduring, retraining, and still carrying out attacks in Iraq and Syria despite being reduced from a terrorist state back into a terrorist group.

Imagine what 1.2 million pissed off decentralized militants can do with just small arms around a country as vast as the United States? Attrition is the name of the game.
 
After killing two over meth, Gang hitman shoots it out with police in Tauranga streets while bystanders take cover. Hitman dies at the scene, no one else injured.
Post gun confiscation gang shootings continue unabated.
 
It’s dead for a year but it might return in 2021.

That being said, a massive victory against Bloomberg’s puppets and especially Governor Blackface.

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Letter from Stephen Franks, Principal, Franks Ogilvie to Stuart Nash, Minister of Police

Dear Minister,

DATA SECURITY FAILURE IN THE BUY BACK NOTIFICATION SYSTEM

We advise the Council of Licensed Firearm Owners (COLFO). We attach a copy of an affidavit from a licensed firearm owner who saw other people’s data when logged in to the notification system in late November/early December 2019.


The affidavit is evidence –

  • that not just dealers were able to gain unauthorised access to personal data
  • that more than one person saw this information
  • that Police did not follow up the report of the breach.

After lengthy conversations with the person who provided it, we have no reason to consider that it is untruthful.


The affidavit giver says that Police heard directly from him/her about the access. So despite evidence that the dealer they acknowledged, was not the only person who had told them they believed they’d wrongly seen personal information, the Police did not try the obvious – offering whistle blower reassurance to learn as much as they could from anyone who offered. Instead they persisted in the course adopted on the first day after the public disclosure, threatening people, trying to discredit COLFO concerns about potential widespread access and rejecting our request for comfort we could pass to potential informants.


If the government had treated the privacy of firearms owners as they have ACC claimants, hospital patients, welfare beneficiaries and other recent victims of data privacy lapses, we would by now have a reliable independent report into the incident. Anxious informants would have had assurances to make sure that the independent investigation could get to the bottom of what actually happened. And vows to “ensure it never happens again” would at least have been followed by an explanation of future precautions. We are not sure that firearm owners were favoured even with the empty promises.

Why the affidavit is redacted

The affidavit has been redacted to impede identification. To respond to serious concern in the early days after the first disclosure of the data security breach, we offered confidentiality to people who reported unexpected access to information. A number of people initially made that claim, or were reported to have done so by another lawyer. Nearly all later declined or ceased to communicate after the initial contact. Most simply did not respond to our requests for confirmation. Others had various explanations:

  1. a fear of prejudicing a decision on their surrender compensation due;
  2. anxiety not to get on the wrong side of the Police, going into an unknown era of Police power in firearms licencing and registration;
  3. worry about what they’d heard as Police threats of action against people who had breached the security.

That last reason was powerful, despite our advice that if they had not used the information we saw little practical likelihood of a basis for enforcement action.


COLFO was willing to work with Police to discover the scale of the breach and to ensure people’s information was not misused. We were instructed to assist if we could. Police had made public threats. So it needed Police reassurances that people cooperating would not risk penalties. We asked Police for such reassurance without useful result. Copies of relevant letters (2) are attached.

My firm does not lie and did not lie

It has been reported to us that you described Franks Ogilvie to at least one MP as having lied about the multiple reports of unsought access to personal data. If that report is true the attached document should elicit an apology. If you did not make such a claim in any form we would appreciate knowing that.


I did not lie when I was an MP. My firm does not lie now. It is a very serious charge to make against lawyers. We try hard to avoid giving unwarranted credence to information given to us, that we have been unable to verify. When sources closed up after the data breach disclosure we were hamstrung. But we had been careful to indicate the nature of our instructions and the basis for our advice.


We propose to copy this letter to the Commissioner of Police. If you did not make the statement attributed to you, and it was instead made by Police, perhaps those who have been advising the Select Committee, I hope the Commissioner will apologise. We do not lie.

Police threats instead of focus on minimizing risks and reason to worry

To our amazement until this week we were never called directly by Police to ask what help we could offer, or to discuss what comfort we could pass on to people who initially claimed to have seen the information of others.


Instead of taking natural steps to establish the scale of the problem from those who had first made it public, the first 30 hours of visible Police response after public exposure seem to have been dedicated to public threats and attempts to trivialise the issue. Police reputation damage control seems to have weighed above the interests of those whose information had been seen. If that had been the response of a private company to a Privacy Act breach, the Privacy Commissioner would have been rightly scathing.


Your conduct Minister reinforced that strategy and priority. A few hours after the breach became public you attacked this firm by name in a media conference, standing beside the Prime Minister. I have known you well enough over the years for you to give me a call. I would not stand on dignity. I’d have been happy to talk if you’d asked a staff member to call. So without asking for help from people likely to know best, Police and Ministerial communication denied directly some circumstances we thought we knew and expected to substantiate from direct reports.

Your choice to demonise, instead of seeking cooperation?

We consider the Police response, and yours, to be revealing of your government’s true priorities in the firearms law changes. I am sure it did not start out as a cynical political stunt. We think many if not most firearms owners understood and would have accepted the intention to ban weapons likely to facilitate terrorist multiple murders. But some senior police and your government have since abused that community unity to make changes that have nothing to do with that risk. You’ve chosen to exploit the Christchurch massacre. You will be aware of the Islamic Women’s National Council submission, asking the government to stop tying your second tranche of law change to the deaths of the 51 people in Christchurch, despite their general support for the Bill.


The public wished to see a conspicuous commitment to safety. That wish has been misused to vilify innocent licensed firearms owners. You have seized media opportunities to brand their representatives, our clients, as political enemies. You’ve tried to transplant and fertilise an alien meme of tribal hatred over gun control. New Zealand was an internationally admired model of Police/citizen collaboration on firearms law. We have a high number of civilian firearms per head, and we had a very low number of criminal firearms injuries and death.


If you want chapter and verse on your propagation of US political memes here, we can oblige.

The result, for your firearms registry, and for Police effectiveness

The reaction of the Police to the data breach was thoughtless, given the need to for widespread trust if your registry is to work at all. It is supposed to record information that will be a burglar’s fantasy shopping guide. Especially after the failure of last year’s buy-back, you and the Police should know how important it will be to get broad community consensus that compliance is normal and worthwhile, and safer than non-compliance.


So Police should have seized the opportunity of the established data breach to show their top priority was to learn as much as possible about the leak. They should have bent every effort toward minimising the worry of people who had registered the location of many valuable firearms. If that meant making it plain that no one who came forward with information would suffer from that, it would have been a small price to pay, to build trust. Instead you and Police issued threats.


Even as late as Monday this week, a Deputy Commissioner declined to give that assurance when pressing us to provide the name of the person whose affidavit accompanies this letter.


You and the Privacy Commissioner will recognise that people reasonably place personal and family safety concerns first. If they fear that the registry data is insecure, and could direct criminal attention to them, it is fatuous to disregard a scenario of widespread disobedience to registration demands. The outcome from the registry expenditure could be the same as Canada. After the real priorities of Police and your office were shown in the immediate response to the news of the data leak, too few sensible firearm owner s will trust you, the government, or the Privacy Commissioner


Instead your public condemnation aided the Police in trying to discredit people who reported a problem.

Where is the data security and privacy evaluation of the registry?

Now you are proceeding with a Bill to create a registry that will be a richer target for deliberate hacking. It is proceeding without any evidence to reassure tens of thousands of New Zealand families facing privacy risks more serious than mere embarrassment. No one appears to have weighed registry costs and risks against benefits. They can’t. The benefits or purposes have not been stated.


The Privacy Commissioner expressed concern, but did not follow up. The Select Committee’s only response to privacy risks is more requirements in the Bill to consult with him.


The Privacy Commissioner could not have had the information needed to weigh privacy risks against benefits. There is:


  • No statutory statement of purpose for the registry;
  • No published specification for data safety
  • No other useful statement of the registry purposes (ignoring slogans like “for gun safety”)
  • No definitive cost information. The only estimates seem unrealistic if the system is to have high protection against penetration, plus wide real-time Police operational access
  • No success benchmarks or published assessments of the factors that will determine if it gets enough cooperation to avoid abandonment (like the Canadian one dumped after spending more than $1bn).

You know that widespread non-compliance would make the registry useless, if it is not already doomed to operational uselessness by the acknowledged proportion of firearms now outside the law, and of course the sensible 30 day allowance before reporting changes in firearm location. Firearm owners know that data security risks matured last year. No-one denies that thousands did not surrender firearms that should have been in the buy-back – so why should Police who have sacrificed firearm owner trust not expect substantial non-compliance with a more threatening registry?


Yours faithfully
FRANKS OGILVIE


Stephen Franks
Principal
 
Scourge of meth-linked homemade guns in Winnipeg hits record high in 2019, police say
The number of homemade guns recovered in Winnipeg shot up 56 per cent in 2019 — police seized nearly 90 of them last year, compared to 53 the year before, says Winnipeg Police Service guns and gangs unit leader Insp. Max Waddell.
In recent years, Canadian police forces have seized more sophisticated homemade guns than those that are typically turning up on the streets of Winnipeg.

In 2018, police in the Greater Toronto area busted a group accused of making and distributing "ghost guns," which look more like traditional handguns. They're considered hard to trace because they're pieced together with unregulated but legal parts without serial numbers.

And in 2017, police in Edmonton seized four homemade submachine pistols, manufactured by a black-market gun-making shop.
There's evidence homemade guns are popping up for sale on the dark web too, and it's possible to find out how to make them yourself.

"You can learn these things off the internet now, which is also pretty wild," said Winnipeg defence lawyer Wendy Martin White.

"It's not hard to do and the buzz is out there. People are just doing it — maybe some are even doing it just defensively, because it's so unsafe on the streets now in some parts."

Gun crime rises in UK in last year with more than 9,700 cases reported

It comes after Sky News learned the number of firearms seized by the National Crime Agency has quadrupled in the last three years.
Gun crime has increased by 4% in one year with more than 9,700 crimes involving firearms taking place in the UK.

Figures from the Office for National Statistics reveal that in the year ending March 2019 a total of 9,787 crimes involving guns took place.
Over the past five years, offences involving a firearm have also increased by 27%.

According to the stats, by March 2019 a total of 33 people died as result of gun crime - three more than the previous year.
In 2017/18 the agency confiscated 104 guns but that rose to 168 in 2018/19.

Over the past 10 months, 425 guns have been seized.

Sky's home editor Jason Farrell told Kay Burley @ Breakfast: "What the National Crime Agency tells us is that this kind of smuggling is on the increase.
 
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Scourge of meth-linked homemade guns in Winnipeg hits record high in 2019, police say




Gun crime rises in UK in last year with more than 9,700 cases reported





Sure glad the criminals are obeying all those strict gun laws.....
 
Dear SSANZ members,

OPINION: Cops with guns make communities less safe. After the March 15 terror attack's anniversary, let's put them away.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/o...for-police-guns-after-march-15th?cid=app-iPad

Well timed scare tactics by the PM

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/nz-greater-risk-terror-attack-ardern

Will Nash listen?

https://thebfd.co.nz/2020/02/stu-nash-should-listen-very-carefully-to-what-ron-mark-said/

Did you write to NZ First ?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/po...-has-reservations-about-new-laws?cid=app-iPad

Best regards,

Phil

SSANZ Sec.
thebfd.co.nz article is interesting reading.
 
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Yes, how dare gun manufacturers promote and advertise the 2A to other demographics besides white men.

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Thank you for encouraging firearm ownership as a massive piss off to white liberals who are deathly scared of armed minorities and women.
 
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Bloomberg launches attack on Sanders' gun control record, says NRA 'paved the road to Washington' for him
WASHINGTON – Billionaire Mike Bloomberg tore into Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday for his record on gun control, accusing him of being "beholden to the gun lobby."
"The NRA paved the road to Washington for Bernie Sanders," Bloomberg tweeted. "He spent the next three decades making sure they got a return on their investment. We deserve a president who is not beholden to the gun lobby."
The tweet included a 90-second video that says the gun rights lobby helped Sanders win a seat in Congress in 1990 because his Republican opponent, former Rep. Peter Smith, backed an assault weapons ban. The ad points to Sanders' votes against the Brady Bill, which established background checks and waiting periods for handgun purchases, and other votes against gun control measures.
Bloomberg touted his own record on gun control in contrast to Sanders'.
"In 2005, I signed a local law allowing New Yorkers to sue gun manufacturers for criminal negligence. That same year, Bernie voted to give gun manufacturers IMMUNITY – overriding my efforts to make NYers safer. Care to explain, Bernie?" he tweeted.
"I’ve been the NRA’s #1 enemy for decades. Bernie’s been the NRA’s buddy for decades. Who do we want to represent the Democratic Party?" Bloomberg said in another tweet, along with a 60-second video of clips of him calling for gun control measures.
Gun control has been a signature issue for Bloomberg. He helped start Mayors Against Illegal Guns, which became Everytown for Gun Safety in 2013. A spokesman told The New York Times Bloomberg, whose personal worth is about $60 billion, has spent $270 million backing those movements since 2007.

The gun-hating oligarch from New York City is accusing the rural socialist of not being anti-gun enough, this is the state of the Democratic Party.

What’s ironic is that the socialist’s gun control plan is still the least offensive.

I also heard rumors Biden is trying to salvage his dying campaign by banking on a semi-auto ban.
 
That sounds about right. There are at least 150 million assault rifles in the US and each of them is capable of murder just by being being within 20 yards of an innocent. So each assault rifle committing one murder per decade would give those numbers.
 
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Why even have laws if the law can’t even come down on armed, drug dealing felons?

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Ghost guns' growing appeal to criminals in Massachusetts
Massachusetts' relatively strong gun laws don't apply to the kits because they aren't considered firearms by the state or federal government. Once they're built, the law requires they be registered with the state. But for people willing to break the law to have a gun, it's a relatively easy way to obtain one.

Ryan said police are seeing more and more ghost guns in Massachusetts. She became especially concerned after learning about a 13-year-old in Middlesex County who built dozens of ghost guns at home.

Strict laws haven’t stopped criminals in Australia, Israel, nor China in manufacturing their own firearms from everyday components....unless Massachusetts wants background checks for buying sheets of metal, galvanized/black iron pipes, or struck anywhere matches.

But as it has been truthfully said: can’t stop the signal. If children can easily manufacture them, then the gun grabbing crowd has already lost.
 
I don't know why those guns aren't leaping out of their holsters and shooting people!! Very dangerous. ?

 

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