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NZ firearm community representatives, Deerstalkers, Colfo, Fish and Game also tried to play the mediation hand. To zero avail as proven. There is no concern from any in Gov except ACT.
We now have a type of a weird liberal police state. Whatever the police deem to be fit for their purposes the police minister will rush off and write up laws to outlaw the lawful and the other day the police announce in the press that they have no control over open gang warfare in the streets where children are getting shot at. Some hugs will fix it.
Speaking of:

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NZ’s finest admit that gun licenses only target law abiding and they are scared of the gangs.

If they are going to throw the book at kiwis and have goons raid homes for a .22 magazine, might as well start pumping out Stens and maybe the NZ Government will just piss their pants and ask nicely that you turn your guns in.

Also dude, I feel you, my government both states and federal has been turning into cartoon dystopias where gangbangers get let off the hook while the guys who try their hardest to follow the law wake up with guns in their faces.

First world democracies are turning authoritarian in the guise of FEELING safe. It’s horrifying.
 
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All the best to America's gun owners, but why for the love of God did they march up dressed like a bunch of wannabe-soldiers there? Good God, who does the anti-gun control movement's public relations? Do you honestly think any liberal in the country is going to watch that footage and be like: "They look like a reasonable bunch, I had best stop messing with their constitutional rights?"
I'm a conservative and a gun owner and quite frankly, much though I'd like to sympathise with them, these people don't look reasonable to me at all.
 
Its called push back, they are bringing their guns in force to show that they will not be coerced by an illegal move by their government and they sure as hell not find a middle ground. on this instnce i agree with the protests, now a protest other than gun rights an you bring a gun, then thats a different message.

They werent there to convince the liberals, they are there to tell them we dont care bout what you think this is a right.
 
Bring your gun by all means. I get that. But the rest of the attire looks ridiculous. Protecting the second amendment doesn't require you to press your dad bod into a kit that would make many a soldier's eyes water.
 
First world democracies are turning authoritarian in the guise of FEELING safe. It’s horrifying.

Correct. Unfortunately we, the people, vote these stupid clowns into office. The Ralph Northams of the world. We see a lot of the same sentiments here. Why do you 'need' a gun like that? Except it's not a 'need' it's a 'right' and some people don't seem to know the difference. It's not about the gun, or technology, it's about a principle. The principle that the people have the right to defend their freedom from a tyrannical, oppressive and authoritarian State.

 
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Source of gang problem in Hawke's Bay 'well beyond the police', says area commander



Certainly when there is no law against it. Fine to ban guns and have speeding laws but when it comes to gang membership its cool with the cops.
Like I said, cowards and thugs.

In Virginia, it looks like the militias are coming back:
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Obama favored the idea of militias.

The precise language of the Second Amendment reads:

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

(Under his control.)
 
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I'm a conservative and a gun owner and quite frankly, much though I'd like to sympathise with them, these people don't look reasonable to me at all.

Reasonable is for dealing with reasonable people. The anti-gun movement have made no secret of their desire to ban everything. That's not a group you can be reasonable with. Under the circumstances, I don't think I'd bother trying to be reasonable with them either.
 
Germany shooting: Six dead after gunman opens fire in town centre
A gunman has killed up to six people in a German town centre after opening fire in a building.
The male shooter fired on members of his own family in the south western German town of Rot am See, Bild reported.

Rest In Peace.

Family motivatied killing.

He also is a legal owner, so expect more restrictions coming in the next few days.
 
A four-year-old boy has died after being accidentally shot while “play wrestling” with his father, according to police.
 
More from Richmond. Interesting that a lot of 'gun control' laws in the South historically were aimed specifically at preventing African Americans from obtaining firearms.


 
Petition against Liberal gun ban signed by over 100,000 upset Canadians
A petition against the Liberal gun ban has just accumulated over 100,000 signatures. Petition E2341 is a petition against a ban on “military-style assault rifles.” The petition was initiated by Alberta resident, Bradley Manysiak.

With over 100,000 signatures, the petition is the second largest in Canadian history.

Probably will be considered worthless, but still good on you Canucks.

Here in the states, Bloomberg is using his billions to influence for ALL the blue states to start crafting more gun bans.

I'm not joking, the amount of states that simultaneously prepared crafted gun ban laws looks very suspicious. Hell, even the Republicans have shown their colors:

Florida’s GOP-Led Senate Passes Gun Control for Gun Show Sales
The Senate President is Bill Galvano (R-Bradenton). On January 17, Breitbart News reported that Galvano received two donations from the Michael Bloomberg-funded Everytown for Gun Safety. One of the donations was in the amount of $200,000 and the other in the amount of $300.000.

And people accuse the dreaded gun lobby of buying politicians. Still, it shows that if Bloomberg can't flip a state through astroturfing; he can buy off politicians like this parasite.

Also shows that it doesn't matter if they are Republican nor Democrat, they are all whores to authoritarian oligarchs with God complexes like Bloomberg.

In my opinion, both parties are sliding toward authoritarianism and the increase in their mass attacks on the 2nd Amendment shows that they are not playing the waiting game anymore. Our only hope as gun owners is in the courts but since judges are appointed by POTUS and the Senate, I don't have much hope after Trump leaves office.

That being said, miracles sometimes do happen, even in a hostile land:

IL Supreme Court: Misdemeanor convictions shouldn't preclude gun ownership forever
CHICAGO — The Illinois Supreme Court has ruled a woman’s misdemeanor battery conviction can’t permanently prevent her from registering for a state FOID card and owning a gun, and said the right to keep and bear arms should be considered a civil right, on par with the right to vote, under the state’s firearms regulation.

Shawna Johnson pleaded guilty to misdemeanor battery in June 2001. In 2010, she obtained a Firearm Owners Identification Card, saying a local sheriff advised her she could mark “no” when the form asked her if she had a prior domestic violence conviction. However, she was denied her request to buy a handgun, and the Illinois State Police revoked her FOID card. She then sued in Wabash County Circuit Court in far southern Illinois. A judge ordered her card reinstated, and ruled the state’s FOID law was unconstitutional, as it applied to Johnson.
 
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So much truth it hurts.... Most of you are talking about free men and gun rights, yet would be fine with the government banning or taxing the MF out of automatics etc.

Its the same as people here who go around carrying firearms for protection but leave them at home when theres a hold on the Permit To Carry.
 
So much truth it hurts.... Most of you are talking about free men and gun rights, yet would be fine with the government banning or taxing the MF out of automatics etc.

Its the same as people here who go around carrying firearms for protection but leave them at home when theres a hold on the Permit To Carry.
You got a point mate, in fact, there's an entire online movement dedicated to the Freemen philosophy.

It's the 3D printed gun guys who are advancing DIY firearm proliferation so that no man, woman, nor even child will be denied; especially in authoritarian states like China or gun ban happy Europe.
 
China actually has a more relaxed way of dealing with firearms. I believe farmers can own an AK and though they have curbed on it hard, the punishment is no more than a day in jail for carrying weapons and ammo.
 
China actually has a more relaxed way of dealing with firearms. I believe farmers can own an AK and though they have curbed on it hard, the punishment is no more than a day in jail for carrying weapons and ammo.
Ammoland has a great article about it:

Chinese Penalties for Illegal Ownership of Guns and Ammunition

The other side of the story is guns are increasingly popular in China. There is a thriving black market in many types of guns. Consider the excerpt above. A criminal penalty is only exacted if more than 200 non-military cartridges or 1,000 air-gun pellets are possessed. 200 cartridges for a hunting gun can be several years supply, perhaps a lifetime's worth for big game hunting. I did not find the definition of a “military cartridge”. Non-military likely includes .22 rimfire and shotgun shells with birdshot. It may include some centerfire rifle cartridges.


In the United States, the District of Columbia has more draconian penalties. Only people with specific licenses from the District of Columbia are allowed to have ammunition. Those that have registered firearms are allowed to only have ammunition for that particular firearm. A single cartridge can result in a fine of up to $1,000 and a year in jail.


Until 1981, hunting rifles in China were not required to be registered! In 1981, registration of hunting rifles was required, but most people in China, over the age of 18, were allowed to own two hunting rifles! In 1996, the law was changed to make it very difficult for almost anyone to legally own a gun. Common air rifles, which had not been considered guns, were defined as guns by a change in the law.


This does much to explain the large numbers of illegal guns the Small Arms Survey estimated to exist in China. China has the third largest number of privately held firearms in the world, at nearly 50 million! Only 1.4 percent of those are registered. Apparently, most of the guns owned before 1981, were not registered, and most were not turned in in 1996. The Tiananmen Square protests and massacre occurred in 1989.


Education and industrialization in China have been increasing. The Small Arms Survey reports that craftsmen in the Songtao Miao Autonomous County in Guizhou province make black market semi-automatic pistols for about $45 each. In the coastal cities, they sell for about $1500. There is a thriving black market in guns in China. From jamestown.org:

China’s expanding underground gun trade is the byproduct of the state’s struggle with market forces. The state fears an armed populace, but a strict ban on gun ownership has only created a black market where the wealthy and well-connected can still buy guns with ease. With the growth of the Chinese economy, the gun trade will continue to expand in response to rising demand from a population with money to spend and an appreciation for weapons stemming from its culture and history. Currently, the gun ban is unlikely to be lifted, yet it is necessary for the Chinese state to recognize the unintended consequences of the ban, and how it allocates guns disproportionately into the hands of black society syndicates that constitute a threat to the livelihood of law abiding citizens, a phenomenon that will have long-lasting negative consequences for social stability.
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The penalties for illegally carrying a gun in China were relatively minor. Loc.gov/law:


The Law on Penalties for Administration of Public Security contains one provision on minor offenses related to illegally carrying firearms. A person who illegally carries firearms and ammunition, or crossbows and daggers, may be detained for not more than five days and may, in addition, be fined not more than 500 yuan; if the circumstances are relatively minor, he is given a warning or fined not more than 200 yuan. A person who illegally carries firearms and ammunition, or crossbows and daggers, to a public place or aboard public transportation may be detained for not less than five days but not more than ten days and may, in addition, be fined not more than 500 yuan.[64]

500 Yuan is about $75. Much depends on what the police believe you were carrying the firearm for. Chinese enforcement of the law is notoriously fluid. During the time a person is confined, the police are probably able to determine if the story you told them is true or false.
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Really great article, though I believe the guns they are talking about are more or less DIY shotguns and homemade muskets, not Type 81s or anything. Though if you are a member of the Communist Party, the authorities will look away if they discover you with a rifle under your car seat.

I guess what the group I'm talking about is trying to do is to make it so that someone in Xinjiang or Bejing or Hong Kong can make his/her own firearm using common and unregulated parts.

I'm all for that.
 

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