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New Zealand could ban some criminals from being near guns ()

Is this real?

Yes. And it's zero coincidence that it comes two days after the Police minister was humiliated by gangs saying "we're not turning in our guns".

I'd suggest that someone should tell Jacinda that there is a name for a state where the police get to make the laws and rules up as they go along. But I suspect that she'd not understand, or if she did then she'd think it was a good thing. Muppet.
 
Speaking of gangs, TheKiwi. What are they made of over there? I mean... Are we talking Hells Angels/Other bikers like in OZ, Asian gangs, others? I never visited your country and while I don’t doubt it’s an issue for you guys too I’m wondering.

Obviously banning gang members from owning guns will play real well as always. SMH.
 
@Flagg is probably in a better position than I to talk about the influx of Australian biker gangs, but we've got plenty of home-grown ones as well. Ever since meth became a big thing they've been growing stronger and more influential.
 
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@BernieSanders
tells an Iowa voter mandatory gun buybacks don’t pass constitutional scrutiny: "A mandatory buyback is essentially confiscation which I think is unconstitutional. It means I am going to walk in your house and take something whether you like it or not.”
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Bernie trying to remain relevant.
 
A Court has given families of Sandy hook have been given Permission to sue the gun maker Remington
 
A Court has given families of Sandy hook have been given Permission to sue the gun maker Remington
The Supreme Court decided not to hear the case and sent it back to the lower courts.

Remington v. Soto – Why Everyone Should Keep Calm and Carry On
First, contrary to some of what many TTAG readers are saying in the comments, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act(PLCAA) does NOT provide blanket immunity to firearms manufacturers. For example, if the gun has a defective trigger, you can still bring a products liability claim against the manufacturer if that particular manufacturing or design defect directly caused you injury. Or if a firearms manufacturer is engaged in price fixing or bid rigging, it is still subject to the normal civil or criminal liability for such conduct.
What PLCAA does say is that you can’t sue firearms manufacturers for liability arising from the criminal or unlawful misuse of a firearm by third parties. But PLCAA does contain several exceptions to this — one of which is the following:
an action in which a manufacturer or seller of a qualified product knowingly violated a State or Federal statute applicable to the sale or marketing of the product, and the violation was a proximate cause of the harm for which relief is sought.
15 USC 7903(5)(A)(iii).
We’ll come back to that in a minute.
Second, the Connecticut Supreme Court did not find that Remington was liable, nor did they reflexively find for the plaintiffs. In fact, it affirmed the dismissal of all but one of the plaintiffs’ claims — a claim that Bushmaster’s advertising violated a Connecticut state law that prohibits false advertising.
With respect to that claim, the Court found that, taking the arguments presented in plaintiffs’ pleadings as true (which is the standard for a motion to dismiss), it was possible that plaintiffs could establish at trial that (1) Bushmaster violated a state law applicable to the marketing of the product, (2) that said violation proximately caused plaintiffs’ injuries, and therefore (3) the above mentioned exception to the PLCAA immunity applies. It’s a very narrow decision that squeaked by the barest of margins (4-3).
Third, while the US Supreme Court’s refusal to hear the case immediately is disappointing, that was hardly unexpected or unusual. The harsh reality is that the Supreme Court takes up very, very few cases — even when there are clear circuit splits or obvious disregard for settled law. It’s frustrating and maddening, but it’s been the reality of Supreme Court practice for generations.
More importantly, procedurally, the case is at the motion to dismiss stage — the case has not been tried on the merits, and the Supreme Court rarely if ever takes any cases that are at this stage.
Compounding matters, the Connecticut Supreme Court majority (likely to further reduce the possibility of immediate Supreme Court review) couched their decision in terms of state law — and the US Supreme Court almost never weighs in on such state issues.
 
Joe Biden just came out against handguns:

While saying he supports the Second Amendment, Biden called the absolutist arguments of some gun-rights supporters “bizarre.” Noting people can’t own machine guns or bazookas, Biden said, “Why should we allow people to have military-style weapons including pistols with 9-mm bullets and can hold 10 or more rounds?”

Also you notice how every time someone says they support the 2A, they always then put a ‘but’ and list how much they hate guns.

Also you can own RPGs and Machineguns Biden, just fill out the paperwork.
 
Another mass shooting in California:
4 Killed, 6 Wounded in Shooting at Fresno Backyard Football Watch Party
The neighborhood was reportedly the sight of previous violence.


Choua Vang said Sunday’s shooting wasn’t the first one in the neighborhood. His next door neighbor’s house was shot at last week.
“It makes me feel unsafe to be outside when the sun’s down,” he said.
Vang often works on his car in his driveway, but now he said he’s nervous to do that and even suspicious of joggers in the neighborhood. He said he worries about his family members who work graveyard shifts and come home late at night.
“We’re thinking about moving out of the neighborhood,” he said. “We don’t know how many more shootings there will be.”

This comes after the school shooting and a Halloween shooting that killed 5.
Five people have been killed and several others injured in a mass shooting at a Halloween party at an Airbnb rental attended by college students in northern California.


The shooting happened late Thursday in Orinda, Calif., a town of about 19,000 people nine miles northeast of Oakland. Authorities have not released any information on potential suspects or whether they have made any arrests. In a statement Friday night, police said, “the suspect is still outstanding.”

Not to be confused with the other Halloween mass shooting that killed three:

Long Beach, California, shooting: 3 dead, 9 hurt in costume party shooting
Investigators were still searching for a suspect or suspects after three men were killed and nine other people were taken to hospitals following a shooting Tuesday night at a costume party at a home in the Southern California city of Long Beach, fire officials said.

Officials said those injured were seven women and two men ranging in age from 20-49. They warned that the number of wounded people could rise because they didn't know if people at the party had brought themselves to the hospital.


Five of the injured people were considered "immediate," or with injuries that paramedics believe could potentially be life-threatening, Jake Heflin, public information officer for the Long Beach Fire Department, said.

There was also a domestic at San Diego:

5 dead, including 3 children, in domestic violence murder-suicide in Paradise Hills
A domestic dispute, a gun, and five dead from the same family, three of them boys under the age of 12. Another boy was in the hospital in critical condition Saturday night.


Guess rubber-stamping 20+ anti-gun bills this past year has done wonders.
 
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October Gun Sales Jump 10 Percent, Continuing Recent Rise
Last month's gun sales were up 10 percent compared with October 2018, two reports from industry groups show, marking the third straight month of increased sales.


The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) and Small Arms Analytics & Forecasting (SAAF) estimated that there were just over 1.1 million gun sales in October, compared with 1 million in October 2018.


"The industry has seen well-improved sales numbers over the past three months," Jurgen Brauer, SAAF chief economist, said in a statement.


The jump in October sales continues a recent upward trend, which coincides with a move towards stricter gun-control positions in the Democratic presidential primary. While gun sales slowed in the first term of the Trump presidency—following record-setting sales under President Barack Obama—Americans appear to be ramping up their purchasing again in recent months. As the 2020 election draws closer and Democrats focus more on gun bans or even confiscation, gun sales could continue to increase.


SAAF said that in the last three months—during which every Democratic candidate endorsed new gun bans and two candidates centered their failed campaigns on confiscating certain guns—the industry saw enough gains over 2018 to make up for low-sales months earlier in the year. If the recent upward trend continues, 2019 will surpass last year's sales and could challenge 2017's totals.

Also some news from Kiwi land:

No shortage of semi-automatic guns as New Zealand rearms after March 15
Thousands of semi-automatic firearms are being imported to New Zealand so gun owners can re-arm after weapons used in the March 15 Christchurch terror attack were banned.

Gun dealers have responded quickly to sweeping law changes which banned most semi-automatic firearms in April, and have been granted licences to import nearly 7000 semi-automatic rifles which remained permitted.

The number of import permits, issued by police, show firearms owners are keen to replace guns headed to the smelter with .22 calibre semi-automatic "bunny guns".

The influx comes as Parliament considers further firearm regulations and a December 20 deadline for a gun buyback scheme looms.
Critics say the firearms still pose a risk to the community. A Stuff investigation, The Homicide Project, showed that of 144 gun homicide incidents since 2004, two thirds involved .22 calibre rifles and shotguns.

Massey University senior lecturer Hera Cook, a member of lobby group Gun Control NZ, said New Zealand should have further restricted access of the .22 guns to farmers and other specific occupations — as Australia did.

Cook said a combination of new firearm control measures, such as a firearm register, would assist with mitigating the risk such guns posed.

"The gun lobby should stop moaning, there are perfectly acceptable substitutes for the guns that are being handed in, and gun owners are buying them."

Wow.
 
Ms Cook was rather throughly humiliated in her recent appearance in front of the select comittee considering the new firearms laws that are proposed. She made comments about the mental decline of people from their 50's in front of a group of people who were almost all in their 50's or older. They laughed at her.
 
Ms Cook was rather throughly humiliated in her recent appearance in front of the select comittee considering the new firearms laws that are proposed. She made comments about the mental decline of people from their 50's in front of a group of people who were almost all in their 50's or older. They laughed at her.
Does that mean they are less likely to approve the .22 SA restriction?
 
I'd consider it highly unlikely at this point - it's unlikely they'd have the numbers to pass such legislation. On the other hand, they've basically given the Police minister the power to ban anything by name that he doesn't like for any reason at all. And he's a corrupt muppet who's hobby is taint licking the head of the Police Union.

EDIT: The comment in the article about .22's being the most common firearm used for murder is true. What they ignore is that almost all of them are cheap/nasty bolt action models. Criminals rarely use a $1000 firearm when they can use and throw away a $100 one.
 
Her second claim was, anyone under 12 is a permanent violent risk to society after handling a firearm.
 
Ok punters, so now the hard question is finally being asked, “As it happens I think the first tranche of law changes were worthwhile, but we still need to be assured that the Police are up to the job of vetting.” Lifted from kiwiblog, not known as a leftist blog at all. The cops were quick to jump on board the “banning” bandwagon, and deflect attention away from this question, which needs an answer. And, for the record, I support cops doing the vetting, just look at the corruption that happened when driver licensing went private.
 
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EDIT: The comment in the article about .22's being the most common firearm used for murder is true. What they ignore is that almost all of them are cheap/nasty bolt action models. Criminals rarely use a $1000 firearm when they can use and throw away a $100 one.
True, 22s, along with cut down shotguns, are the most commonly used firearms for murder. But semiauto 22s, again, cut down to a pistol grip, short barrel with a suppressor. MSSA are trophy weapons used as currency. Too big to move around discretely.
 
The Gun Sanctuary movement is gaining a lot of steam in Virginia:

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