OK, I have a question. Perhaps I missed it, but is there any sort of evidence supporting the accusation, that this incident was racially motivated? I mean, as opposed to a policeman using a very problematic tactic to control a suspect, which accidentally resulted in disaster?
There is no evidence of racism on this incident, but there is evidence of the violence of that PD and specifically the two officers out of the 4 in the incident.
Nationwide, there is no clear evidence that a black man will more than likely to be shot by a white cop, compared to all races across the board. This is why for me is more of a case of Police brutality and the mindset of a lot of PD. Like the NYPD ramming people with their cars and those cops shooting paintballs to people on their front porches etc.
Keep in mind the vids of cops going “agro” are actually few and far between. Don’t forget that videos of the every day interactions don’t see the light of day. Who wants to see me change a tire for someone? How exciting is a video of me greeting a homeless guy with a bag of McDonalds burgers when I get have to tell him to not panhandle there?
Im telling you that the “image” of police officers in the US is being manipulated. You remember that live PD episode where I buy a car seat for a kid instead of issuing a ticket to his single mom? Nope. Because it was non violent and boring.
I agree that it is being manipulated, however, some police departments are not doing much to help the "good guys" in the department. I would say that if your town or city isnt burning, then your department is doing something right and your community probably knows this. The same as the majority of the protests are peaceful but that is not getting the attention. However one cant deny that there is an undertone in distrust in some communities on both sides.
I can’t describe how insensitive “ it’s part of the job” sounds right now. Having a code word for my wife and kids when I see a subject I’ve arrested in the store we are in so they know to get away from me and out of danger wasn’t part of the job. The risk of being executed for something another cop did, not part of the job.
Im sorry if it sounds insensitive, but it truly is the nature of the job. Over here coming from the Martial law years the National Police is over correcting it that they pushed Maximum Tolerance to the point that short of pulling a gun out they will tolerate even verbal abuse directed at them. Their parked cars have the lights on just so people would notice them in case they are needed.
And they suffer from ambushes by communist rebels when on duty in the smaller towns in the boonies, yet the attitude is less intimidation but on trying to make the community see them as there to protect and help them.
A policeman's job is a tough one, and thats why they are still heroes in my books, and i think they still are for most people. Thats why rotten apples in the department should be hammered quickly than be covered by unions or immunity.
I know I sound hyper defensive. I can’t really fault anyone for seeing this situation like you do from the outside.
The best thing I can tell you is that Police officers are not at fault for the state of community relations right now. We are definitely taking the blame. For sure we share responsibility for it though. I won’t tell you that there aren’t some pretty crappy cops out there. This isn’t what is driving the public image. There is an intentional focus on negativity toward police right now. Media/politics driven but fueled by our current culture.
Look to the stats on police involved shootings and custody deaths. The media continues to run with the narrative that black men are being targeted by police. Nothing factual to base that on.
You dont sound hyper defensive to me, just probably frustrated whats going on. On my part my experiences on American PDs are based on my living there for 7 years an frequent travels...
PD's I have encountered was mainly:
LAPD
LA County SD, in Lancaster about 5 direct asshole moments from them and the various attitude of their personnel. Almost shot me and my friends but had a cool headed officer so wouldnt fault them with it.
Kern County SD. just cool guys and helpful, mostly older in age compared to the guys up top so maybe they are more relaxed.
California Highway Patrol, no tickets no problem
AZ State troopers, got stopped for a random drug check around Flagstaff so best i can say I look latino in a nice truck with out of state plates.
Shawnee PD in OK, decent and friendly. Saw me cleaning a Mosin on the front porch, and just said nice one.
The story in Georgia where those good old boys chased a black guy in a pick up truck with rifles did' nt help. Especially with the local police covering it mostly up. That got the Black community in the USA pumping these last weeks.
What I deeply feel sorry about is everyone playing the race card. I won' t play an angel here, I' m a little racist myself...just because of statistics...Yet I' m tired of Whites looking for Blacks who do wrong things, and Blacks trying to find a white person being racist..
Everyone at the beginning is simply a person and deserves his chance of being judged and treated fairly and humanly.
Spotted this video. That's from last year. For me it illustrates a lot of wrong: black guy is black and the white police officers are looking for a black dude. Apparently, the Black person who did nothing wrong plays with them and does' nt cooperate.
The vid says the guy' s FBI, he' s not after that vid was fact checked. He' s a medic. Yet he acted more like a black dude from the hood than a medic, and those police officers did not treat the person as they would have had a white guy with a suit and tie.
I believe some PD have already admitted to some racial profiling, now is this the PD's fault or like in New York, just the cops implementing orders from above?
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