Politics Chaotic scenes as HK protests turns violent
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what happened in thai right now ? pls do a topic on it , I seen picture floating on asean facebook group showing container and bus blocking the street , why cnn and western new are not reporting on it ? kinda weird
Obama...Russia is only a regional power. Before Syria and Russiagate
Biden...Four years ago China is our friend we must sign a lopsided trade deal with them and recently,,China is nothing to worry about..then Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Democrat presidents of America. Democrat education in US is don't teach history..mainly as whitemen bad but also so they don't realize how stupid the one they voted for was.
Biden...Four years ago China is our friend we must sign a lopsided trade deal with them and recently,,China is nothing to worry about..then Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Democrat presidents of America. Democrat education in US is don't teach history..mainly as whitemen bad but also so they don't realize how stupid the one they voted for was.
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btw I just found out some wanker Chinese netzen are trying to blame the leader of hongkong protestor are Vietnamese that why they protest and so anti CCP lol WTF , they claim Joshua wong ( Wong Chi Fung or in Vietnamese Hoang Chi Phong ) are actually Vietnamese and his parent was Vietnamese refuge ( nope they are both hongkonger not Vietnamese ) man CCP bot are kinda sad 
next they will say any Chinese that are anti CCP are Vietnamese ( Btw all Vietnamese-Korean-japan name can be writing in Chinese cause we have like 60% Chinese loan word + thousand year of influence from china ( kinda like how rome influence Europe and European language with latin )
next they will say any Chinese that are anti CCP are Vietnamese ( Btw all Vietnamese-Korean-japan name can be writing in Chinese cause we have like 60% Chinese loan word + thousand year of influence from china ( kinda like how rome influence Europe and European language with latin )
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Hong Kong Police Arrest 53 Opposition Figures Over Alleged Subversion
Police arrested more than 50 pro-democracy figures they accused of plotting to paralyze the Hong Kong government through the city’s legislature, targeting much of the opposition camp’s leadership.
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Joshua Wong got pinched.
That kid has been going hard since he was 14.
If he doesn’t get poured into Soylent Green jello molds the kid should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize to piss off China.
Good luck to him and his compatriots.
That kid has been going hard since he was 14.
If he doesn’t get poured into Soylent Green jello molds the kid should be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize to piss off China.
Good luck to him and his compatriots.
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Nah, Greta will receive the price.
Or Kamala Harris, or Nancy Pelosi.
Or basically anybody else.
Or Kamala Harris, or Nancy Pelosi.
Or basically anybody else.
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China will ‘no longer recognise’ UK passport for Hong Kong people
Beijing’s announcement comes as Britain prepares to open its doors to millions of people from its former colony.
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I like that paragraph:
Hong Kong's affairs.
Not China's affairs, not Beijing's affairs. Hong Kong's.
So, China is furious Britain set a new visa pathway. Ok.
London flouted the handover agreement. Hum... "sure"? But so did China just now, didn't it?
Hong Kong's affairs.
Not China's affairs, not Beijing's affairs. Hong Kong's.
So, China is furious Britain set a new visa pathway. Ok.
London flouted the handover agreement. Hum... "sure"? But so did China just now, didn't it?
Can someone explain to me what's the point of this entire charade?
Why is HK revolting against China?
(and no, I don't accept explanations such as "China is literally a dictatorship")
Why is Britain so eager to support an independent HK?
(and no, I don't accept explanations such as "Because UK protects freedoms of people worldwide")
Why is HK revolting against China?
(and no, I don't accept explanations such as "China is literally a dictatorship")
Why is Britain so eager to support an independent HK?
(and no, I don't accept explanations such as "Because UK protects freedoms of people worldwide")
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Well... the premise of your questions are wrong.
HK is not "revolting against" China per say.
And the UK is not "supporting" an "independent" HK, per say.
So, let's start with: what is HK to China.
When the British left HK in 1997 (also known as the Handover of HK, or "The Return" in China), they transferred the authority of the region to China which created the "Special Administrative Region of Hong Kong" with governing and economic systems separate from those of Mainland China.
That kind of Region benefits from special codified constitution, granting it laws providing a high degree of autonomy, a separate political system, and a capitalist economy.
HK operates under the "one country, two systems" constitutional principle meaning the Government of HK is, in law, exclusively in charge of Hong Kong's internal affairs and external affairs. The PRC of which the Hong Kong government is financially independent, is responsible for Hong Kong's defense and foreign policy.
Since 1997 there have been many political issues with HK and China's will to "absorb" that region, most of which stemming from electoral reforms and the interpretation of "Basic Law" (which more or less defines HK as an entity).
Up until 2019 when PRC tried to pass the Hong Kong Extradition Bill, to amend extradition rights between Hong Kong and other countries. This bill was proposed because of an incident in which a Hong Kong citizen killed his pregnant girlfriend on vacation in Taiwan. However, there is no agreement to extradite to Taiwan, so he was unable to be charged in Taiwan. The bill proposes a mechanism for transfers of fugitives not only for Taiwan, but also for Mainland China and Macau, which are not covered in the existing laws.
The 2019 Hong Kong District Council election was held on 24 November, the first poll since the beginning of the protests, and one that had been billed as a "referendum" on the government. More than 2.94 million votes were cast for a turnout rate of 71.2%, up from 1.45 million and 47% from the previous election. This was the highest turnout in Hong Kong's history, both in absolute numbers and in turnout rates. The pro-democratic party won by a landslide, their seat share increased from 30% to almost 88%, with a jump in vote share from 40% to 57%.
Anyway, while the whole covid thing taking place, on 18 June 2020, the Chinese government introduced a draft to the NPC, aiming for the session to take three days. According to the decision, the proposed national security law seeks to prevent external interference in Hong Kong's affairs, criminalize acts that threaten national security such as subversion and secession and allow the PRC to establish a national security agency in Hong Kong when China sees it as necessary.
In short: no more "one country two systems" principle, rule of law and civil liberties. But China said that the laws would only target a minority of "troublemakers" who had endangered Chinese national security.
HKers, obviously, don't want that. Thus the "revolt against" China.
The United Kingdom has historically been a popular destination for Hong Kong immigrants due to the colonial relationship between the two territories.
Etc...
HK is not "revolting against" China per say.
And the UK is not "supporting" an "independent" HK, per say.
So, let's start with: what is HK to China.
When the British left HK in 1997 (also known as the Handover of HK, or "The Return" in China), they transferred the authority of the region to China which created the "Special Administrative Region of Hong Kong" with governing and economic systems separate from those of Mainland China.
That kind of Region benefits from special codified constitution, granting it laws providing a high degree of autonomy, a separate political system, and a capitalist economy.
HK operates under the "one country, two systems" constitutional principle meaning the Government of HK is, in law, exclusively in charge of Hong Kong's internal affairs and external affairs. The PRC of which the Hong Kong government is financially independent, is responsible for Hong Kong's defense and foreign policy.
Since 1997 there have been many political issues with HK and China's will to "absorb" that region, most of which stemming from electoral reforms and the interpretation of "Basic Law" (which more or less defines HK as an entity).
Up until 2019 when PRC tried to pass the Hong Kong Extradition Bill, to amend extradition rights between Hong Kong and other countries. This bill was proposed because of an incident in which a Hong Kong citizen killed his pregnant girlfriend on vacation in Taiwan. However, there is no agreement to extradite to Taiwan, so he was unable to be charged in Taiwan. The bill proposes a mechanism for transfers of fugitives not only for Taiwan, but also for Mainland China and Macau, which are not covered in the existing laws.
The 2019 Hong Kong District Council election was held on 24 November, the first poll since the beginning of the protests, and one that had been billed as a "referendum" on the government. More than 2.94 million votes were cast for a turnout rate of 71.2%, up from 1.45 million and 47% from the previous election. This was the highest turnout in Hong Kong's history, both in absolute numbers and in turnout rates. The pro-democratic party won by a landslide, their seat share increased from 30% to almost 88%, with a jump in vote share from 40% to 57%.
Anyway, while the whole covid thing taking place, on 18 June 2020, the Chinese government introduced a draft to the NPC, aiming for the session to take three days. According to the decision, the proposed national security law seeks to prevent external interference in Hong Kong's affairs, criminalize acts that threaten national security such as subversion and secession and allow the PRC to establish a national security agency in Hong Kong when China sees it as necessary.
In short: no more "one country two systems" principle, rule of law and civil liberties. But China said that the laws would only target a minority of "troublemakers" who had endangered Chinese national security.
HKers, obviously, don't want that. Thus the "revolt against" China.
The United Kingdom has historically been a popular destination for Hong Kong immigrants due to the colonial relationship between the two territories.
Etc...
On CNBC
NZ trade minister Damien O'Conner advises Aussie to be more respectful of China. It's a dairy priority.
In a lesson of diplomatically choosing words, previous Aussie PM Malcom Turnbull delivers his assessment on NZ,
NZ trade minister Damien O'Conner advises Aussie to be more respectful of China. It's a dairy priority.
In a lesson of diplomatically choosing words, previous Aussie PM Malcom Turnbull delivers his assessment on NZ,
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Hope it shows the sheep that even labour put business above morals.
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