Politics The Biden thread

The left leaning press..Biden won the debate on facts and how can we replace him.
 
I can't stand to watch the dotard speak, but I did catch a bit of the so-called debate. Brandon looked lost - as usual - his main response to Trump's statements was, "Lies!".

Will the democrats fabricate a way to remove him and nominate somebody else? After last night's debacle, I feel it's a strong possibility.
 
Gavin Newsom, 99% sure of it.

The only other possibility I see is Obama running again in which case it's instantly over for Trump.
 
Watched it as well.

Surprisingly both trump and Biden did relatively "good", to some extent.

Biden could have performed way way worse, but still manage to remain more or less coherent. A lot of things he went on were either false or irrelevant though, but that was to be expected after 8 years of pushing BS talking points.
Still went after the "fine people" line nonetheless, despite being officially been debunked and labeled "false" by Snopes.
 
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Even the Commy News Network
 
Notwithstanding the shite we have available in this country to vote for, I feel sorry for those stateside who are lumbered with these two as your candidates. Like given a choice of your left or right bollock to smash with a mallet. Tough choice indeed.
 
Ugh! I only watched snippets. I agree, Cron. However, my belief is that Biden is infinitely worse a choice for the next four years. After that, let get some younger leaders in place.


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It's highly probable the DNC will find a way to ease Biden out before the nomination - paving the way for Newsome? Possibly. But what to do about Harris who in some respects is worse than the dotard?

She could possibly be bought off... unless she's more vain than she appears.


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It seems clear to me they have to nominate somebody else, since this wasn't a one-off affair of a person failing to perform in a debate. Trump offered many points of attack which a politician with Biden's experience should've been able to exploit. For instance, Trump seemingly admitted to Putin having confided in him that he was going to attack Ukraine beforehand. Pretty drastic stuff.

That Biden wasn't able to pick up like thirty opportunities offered on a silver platter says more about his state than a shaky hand does.

I do wonder what the damage of pulling Biden as opposed to letting him run would be for the Dems, though. I mean, in America's polarised society there'll be people who would've voted for Biden no matter what. But what does it say about the Democratic Party if Biden has to pull out and thereby basically say: "Yep, you were always right, I'm too old"? Would that not be damaging to Newsom or every other candidate as well?

Or would the Dems just be like, well, after all we haven't formally endorsed Biden as our candidate yet, so …?

How do you justify pulling out at this stage without a sudden cancer diagnosis or something like that?

By the way, would it be constitutionally permissible for Biden to say, I'll run, and if elected I retire half-way through the term and my running mate takes over the presidency? Mind you, I'm not asking if it would be popular, just if it's legal.
 
By the way, would it be constitutionally permissible for Biden to say, I'll run, and if elected I retire half-way through the term and my running mate takes over the presidency? Mind you, I'm not asking if it would be popular, just if it's legal.

That's an interesting scenario that would be, in a sense, within legal and Constitutional grounds.

Though it would be easier to plan that behind closed door and arrange the succession as "something unexpected".

The issue, or issues, that would be raised would be mostly ethical and specialists would likely find out Constitutional issues with that kind of process.
 
RFK clearly saw Biden was weak way before the debate.
Before he was eccentric even according to his own relatives. Now he looks like the only sensible democrat.

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There are a few YT vids relating to how difficult it would be to nominate someone other than Biden. I don't completely understand all that, and would they be stuck nominating Harris if Biden actually does blow a gasket? Add to that the DNC's disregard for rules, and it becomes a real mess.
 

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