Politics The 2020 American Presidential Election

[primer]

30% of democrats think they stole it. From now on there will be a significant % that believe Biden and Harris are illegitimate.

 

[tea-drinker]

Ivan le Fool and other Trumptards throwing a tantrum because their great leader lost is arguably the most joyful side-effect of this election. Whatever accusations they threw against liberals the past four years, whom they mockingly called snowflakes, they are now parading the same kind of emotional butthurtism.

Trump has been put into the dustbin of history by a mediocre candidate like Biden and there isn't nothing the orange man's sycophants can do about it.

This whole thread is nothing more than therapy for frustrated, middle-aged White men who can't deal with the fact that their dear leader got humiliated so they desperately cling on dubious and partisan sources for the sake of collective mourning. SAD!

You really should post with a little more respect for other members of the forum, and lets be honest, have some respect for yourself.
Childish taunts about Trumptards etc just makes you look like a lightweight. There were plenty of good reasons to vote for Trump over Hilary (especially for military members tired of war) . And is every anti Trump supporter automatically a Shrillary?
And to cap it off with the immediate retreat to the moral high ground of anti white male is simply foolish.
It makes you a racist, ageist. But tbh that fits you well, Team "not my president" has had 4 years of politically correct racism of dragging Russia's name through the mud in order to conveniently tar Trumps election, and of course we now have an "unhackable" election?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

You really should post with a little more respect for other members of the forum, and lets be honest, have some respect for yourself.
And to cap it off with the immediate retreat to the moral high ground of anti white male is simply foolish.
It makes you a racist, ageist.

Or, simply, a hypocrite.

That is, if one takes into account his previous posts in which he relished at the idea of the US collapsing or judging Melania Trump's value as a First Lady based on her past as a model/ "dumb bimbo" (to quote).

Anyway.

If actually caring about legal and constitutional processes, the ethics surrounding the whole electoral apparatus and its consequences, the rule of law and the precedents the current situation are setting, are enough to make someone a "Trumptard" (no matter if one is actually pro-Trump or not), then I guess the "binarity" and polarization of the world has been made more clear cut.

But if one has to accept that kind of approach, I suppose those opposed are, in fact, individuals with very little moral values (that goes without saying) but who also consider as respectable figure a child sniffer, with an extensive (and documented) past of women-groping and overt racism.

But we digress.

 

[Euroamerican]

I hope they find out who knocked down the twin towers and who killed Kennedy. Also ongoing investigations for some people.

Come on man...keep it together.

Come on Man! After all, it was you and me!

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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[Fluff]

I hope they find out who knocked down the twin towers and who killed Kennedy. Also ongoing investigations for some people.

Come on man...keep it together.

I'm still trying to find out how 'Lost' ended, now theres a conspiracy.....

 

[nemipuka_]

As much as I respect the opinions on how I should vote from guys whose own countries are third world train wrecks I think I’ll wait until the investigations are completed to see how things stand. Patience, lets string this out to 2024.

Man, Trump himself resembles our "third world" politicians quite a lot. So if you can't accept a future without him, come live with us. We have even horses for you to ride during the campaigns :

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Just kidding, I don't have a horse, don't hang out with any of these people, I actually live in different part of town. So i guess our society is divided just like in America.

 

[Fluff]

Man, Trump himself resembles our "third world" politicians quite a lot. So if you can't accept a future without him, come live with us. We have even horses for you to ride during the campaigns:

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Just kidding, I don't have a horse, don't hang out with any of these people, I actually live in different part of town. So i guess our society is divided just like in America.

Now I have a huge urge to buy a black leather jacket, 200 cigs, and an old mercedes.......

 

[Telmar]

Aaaah...Michigan republicans:

"...We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan..."

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[Mike1976]

I'm still trying to find out how 'Lost' ended .....

You and the creators of that show ...

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Aaaah...Michigan republicans:

"...We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan..."

Yeah, way to cherry pick there.

The rest of the sentence and the following paragraph are also interesting:

"...and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors, just as we have said throughout this election.

Michigan’s certification process should be a deliberate process free from threats and intimidation. Allegations of fraudulent behavior should be taken seriously, thoroughly investigated, and if proven, prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the candidates who win the most votes win elections and Michigan’s electoral votes. These are simple truths that should provide confidence in our elections."

 

[BCNTM]

Twitter will hand control of US president's official account to Biden

President Donald Trump has yet to concede the White House to President-elect Joe Biden, but the POTUS Twitter account will be handed to Biden anyway, according to Twitter.

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if by some miracle Trump does 'win' I can see twitter not having a very bright future in the US

 

[NZM305]

Yeah, way to cherry pick there.

The rest of the sentence and the following paragraph are also interesting:

"...and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors, just as we have said throughout this election.

Michigan’s certification process should be a deliberate process free from threats and intimidation. Allegations of fraudulent behavior should be taken seriously, thoroughly investigated, and if proven, prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the candidates who win the most votes win elections and Michigan’s electoral votes. These are simple truths that should provide confidence in our elections."

Most definitely agree with the bold part but would probably add that delaying lawsuits that are laid with no real evidence should be dealt with harshly as well as an abuse of the legal system.

 

[riderboy]

Obama, Biden, Clinton....non built anything. Parade around pretending they know something. Non of them were creators. Professional leaching politicians that behave like mafia.

Bingo. There seems to be a confused cadre of posters here who have conflated being a good politician with being an effective leader. Trump is an incredibly effective leader who kept his promises right down the line. Joe Biden is an effective politician. He’s managed re-election after re-election for 50 years by promising everything, accomplishing nothing, being wrong about almost everything and profiteering handsomely. Now, as his skull turns to mush I’d be interested in hearing just what Biden has accomplished that so captivates his admirers. Or the Democrat Party for that matter. Otherwise, Orange Man Bad is still the default here for Trump.

 

[riderboy]

Most definitely agree with the bold part but would probably add that delaying lawsuits that are laid with no real evidence should be dealt with harshly as well as an abuse of the legal system.

Oh!! Where have you been for the last 4 years!! Hahaha!!! That’s all we’ve seen. Congrats on growing a backbone. And BTW, unlike the last four years, there us evidence.

 

[NZM305]

Bingo. There seems to be a confused cadre of posters here who have conflated being a good politician with being an effective leader. Trump is an incredibly effective leader who kept his promises right down the line. Joe Biden is an effective politician. He’s managed re-election after re-election for 50 years by promising everything, accomplishing nothing, being wrong about almost everything and profiteering handsomely. Now, as his skull turns to mush I’d be interested in hearing just what Biden has accomplished that so captivates his admirers. Or the Democrat Party for that matter. Otherwise, Orange Man Bad is still the default here for Trump.

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I'd argue that just getting stuff done isnt the sole measurement of an effective leader, and that with the staff turn over, the division in American society and the lowered overall world perception of the USA, if it was a company it would be regarded as being poorly managed.

And nice to see the default setting of personal character attacks is still present on both sides of the debate.

 

[Dercius]

I'd argue that just getting stuff done isnt the sole measurement of an effective leader, and that with the staff turn over, the division in American society and the lowered overall world perception of the USA, if it was a company it would be regarded as being poorly managed.

And nice to see the default setting of personal character attacks is still present on both sides of the debate.

Division in american society started waaaaaaaaaaaaaay before Trump decided to run for office. I have seen it going on for over 17 years already. Only now its when some people think that the fruit is ready for the picking

 

[morris]

I'd argue that just getting stuff done isnt the sole measurement of an effective leader, and that with the staff turn over, the division in American society and the lowered overall world perception of the USA, if it was a company it would be regarded as being poorly managed.

And nice to see the default setting of personal character attacks is still present on both sides of the debate.

That's why the investigation into Dems corruption and cheating should be curried out to restore faith in the country's electoral integrity.

 

[riderboy]

 

[Sideline]

Identity politics divides America.

Literally!

It divides people into groups opposed. Oppressors and victims.
Some people get labeled the oppressor and everyone else is taught to play the victim.

Political correctness along with identity politics helps to distribute some fake moral outrage to the public.

They create a fake 'public opinion' of a choice.... a 'moral choice' and the 'other choice' (they will decide which is labeled moral/acceptable).

Everyone is free to choose, but if someone does not choose the choice labeled morally acceptable, then they will be labeled less than for their choice.

They will be demonized as immoral and deemed forfeit of individual rights.
Fake public opinion and fake moral outrage will justify ignoring laws and trampling on the rights of individuals.

The Democratic party embraces and uses identity politics.