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Most likely half way of breaking off relations, ambassadors will be recalled (if that), but the embassies will reman open.
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Most likely half way of breaking off relations, ambassadors will be recalled (if that), but the embassies will reman open.
I find it kind of hilarious that every single time Tikhanovskaya opens her mouth to announce something, she breaks at least a few domestic laws, and/or makes her standing as an alternative leader less legitimate.
Pretty sure if I'd be in her shoes, I'd play my cards 2 or 3 times smarter. Whomever is advising her, they should get laid off.
Pretty sure if I'd be in her shoes, I'd play my cards 2 or 3 times smarter. Whomever is advising her, they should get laid off.
What's up with protests in Belarus?
I hear they're losing momentum and deflating like a punctured balloon, with every passing week.
It's actually an interesting experiment. What happens to a revolution, when the government successfully isolates the country and doesn't let any foreign elements mingle/interact with people on the streets.
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It's kind of hilarious that Belarus government is telling Lithuanian/Polish ambassadors to F*** out of the country, but they refuse to leave and insist they will stay in Belarus no matter what the government says.
I could be wrong but to my memory this is unheard of. Diplomats are required to obey their expulsion from the host country. But here foreign ambassadors are acting as the invading force ?
I hear they're losing momentum and deflating like a punctured balloon, with every passing week.
It's actually an interesting experiment. What happens to a revolution, when the government successfully isolates the country and doesn't let any foreign elements mingle/interact with people on the streets.
P.S.
It's kind of hilarious that Belarus government is telling Lithuanian/Polish ambassadors to F*** out of the country, but they refuse to leave and insist they will stay in Belarus no matter what the government says.
I could be wrong but to my memory this is unheard of. Diplomats are required to obey their expulsion from the host country. But here foreign ambassadors are acting as the invading force ?
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Belarus did not expels them from country, but recalled own ambassadors from Polska and Lithuania and expected Poland/Lithuania did the same (as it always sholud be by diplomatic rules). However they broke the rules and did not recall ambassadors. So no, they were not expulsed from Belorussia (that would be pretty hilarious if they did not obey this). They just broke some diplomatic tradition and that is it.
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She is going straight by Guaido path and there is no but utterly pathetic end this road going.
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lol, lukashenko turned all law enforcement institutions into his own private security firms, he openly encouraged them to break the law, and yet you still pretend to care about what's legal or not. Hypocrisy 10/10
Maybe it's because they don't recognize the legitimacy of Lukashenko and his regime. But more importantly, it seems that the majority of Belarusians don't recognize him as well.
Weak and pathetic.
Luka's legitimacy is certainly shaky in this regard, but the fact that the whole government/police/army apparatus is on his side already says that he's the real leader, far more real than Tikhanovskaya ever was or ever will be. Street support tends to always be vague and ambiguous, and politically/legally illiterate.
More like Lithuania and Poland don't understand what politics are nor how politics work.
Recognition alone (or lack thereof) can't do anything by itself, it has to be supported by a de facto physical reality. If you start acting like Luka and his government don't exist in your list of foreign relationships, then you also need to have a de facto real army on standby that will go and overthrow his regime. But if you antagonize your neighbor, and have no way of removing him and his government from power, you're just a moron who's trying to win a fight with a spoon as his weapon of choice. The ultimate long-term result for Balts and Poles will be an enemy-state on their borders for the foreseeable future.
Belarus requested Lithuania and Poland to cut the number of diplomats they have in Belarus.
Lithuania and Poland responded they will not do so because [reasons].
Belarus insisted that the reduction of diplomatic personnel is not a recommendation but a demand.
At least that's what I've read.
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Non-existing, to be precise. He sabotaged the elections with his "80% victory" fraud, his last term ended... do the math.
He took those 25 years in office to personally handpick the most loyal bootlickers for the whole bureaucratic and military command chain, I give him that.
The math is determine in what works, and not in what one imagines in his head.
The math is that the entire power aparatus in Belarus accepts Luka as their commander and not anyone from the street or in Vilnius.
Do the math.
Nobody cares what you give.
There is a discrete difference between a democracy and an idiocracy, and the street is attempting to empower the second.
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In normal countries, military and police oath oblige all man in uniform to serve "the people". Glad to clear out that Lukalandia in not one of them & hope one day Belarus will manage to throw this tumor from its back.
Same goes for you too.
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Tick -tock
you hear that?
Plenty of political changes take time, as mentioned previously, this isnt an anti-russian 'revolution', its an anti-Luka protest.
That'power' you talk about, will disappear in the time it takes to start a lada, and ditch their uniforms.....
You guys are hilarious beyond redemption.
Democracy just as any other political system is a utilitarian tool, a means of achieving a goal. And the goal is a stable government and a society whose interests and safety are secured and ensured.
It is a matter of historical circumstance that democracy was identified as most efficient in providing the most utility in securing society and its interests.
But that’s the thing, democracy is a means of securing the safety and interests of society, historically most effective means of doing so. Democracy as a tool was not designed to bring chaos and collapse to a country. So if the street votes for a cooking-video YouTube celebrity just so it could oppose Luka, this doesn’t automatically make it democratic, because it goes against the function of democracy - which is to ensure stable functioning government and a safe society with secured interests. If you’re voting for a housewife just to throw a hissy fit against the current leadership, then that’s a hissy fit that has nothing to do with democracy, you’re just destroying democracy, not empowering it.
I don’t understand why I have to explain these basics every grade schooler should understand.
Nobody likes Luka, neither Putin, nor Russia, nor me, nor Luka’s subordinates. But they support him because he’s the lesser evil compared to the idiocracy pushed by the street.
And the fact itself that the street gives Tikhanovskaya a blank cheque to operate from a foreign country under the supervision of foreign interested parties, thus ignoring all concerns regarding sovereignty, further testifies to the fact that we’re dealing with a massive hissy fit and not a democratic vote.
Of course Luka is the main cause behind this hissy fit, his obsession with power led to it. He’s the catalyst of this crisis. But that doesn’t automatically imply that hissy fits are democratic. It’s a mess he created and he has to clean up to avoid a catastrophe, without foreign intervention, but Lithuania and Poland are desperate to use this opportunity to further their own interests.
Democracy just as any other political system is a utilitarian tool, a means of achieving a goal. And the goal is a stable government and a society whose interests and safety are secured and ensured.
It is a matter of historical circumstance that democracy was identified as most efficient in providing the most utility in securing society and its interests.
But that’s the thing, democracy is a means of securing the safety and interests of society, historically most effective means of doing so. Democracy as a tool was not designed to bring chaos and collapse to a country. So if the street votes for a cooking-video YouTube celebrity just so it could oppose Luka, this doesn’t automatically make it democratic, because it goes against the function of democracy - which is to ensure stable functioning government and a safe society with secured interests. If you’re voting for a housewife just to throw a hissy fit against the current leadership, then that’s a hissy fit that has nothing to do with democracy, you’re just destroying democracy, not empowering it.
I don’t understand why I have to explain these basics every grade schooler should understand.
Nobody likes Luka, neither Putin, nor Russia, nor me, nor Luka’s subordinates. But they support him because he’s the lesser evil compared to the idiocracy pushed by the street.
And the fact itself that the street gives Tikhanovskaya a blank cheque to operate from a foreign country under the supervision of foreign interested parties, thus ignoring all concerns regarding sovereignty, further testifies to the fact that we’re dealing with a massive hissy fit and not a democratic vote.
Of course Luka is the main cause behind this hissy fit, his obsession with power led to it. He’s the catalyst of this crisis. But that doesn’t automatically imply that hissy fits are democratic. It’s a mess he created and he has to clean up to avoid a catastrophe, without foreign intervention, but Lithuania and Poland are desperate to use this opportunity to further their own interests.
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So let me get this straight: if Belarusians vote for Tsikhanouskaya, this is undemocratic because she is cooking-video YouTube housewife celebrity that hisses against the safety and interests of society. Therefore sabotaging the elections by fraud supports Democracy. And all protesters are idiots.
Well, thank you for your opinion ?
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It is hard times, due to the pandemic economy isn't doing well so money stream for the protests show is drying and most of disgruntled activists are reluctant to perform for free.
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Indeed they did.
The Belarusian Foreign Ministry has demanded the Polish and Lithuanian embassies in Minsk to reduce their diplomatic staff, the ministry's spokesperson Anatol Hlaz said on Friday quoted by the TUT.by portal.
Mr Hlaz said the Polish embassy should employ no more than 18 diplomats instead of the current 50, and the Lithuanian embassy shall have no more than 14 employees (currently 25).
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Armenian envoy says Turkey sent 4,000 Syrian fighters to Azerbaijan amid fighting: Ifax
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