Politics BLM protests across the US

what the F*** is happening to the US?
Simple. EVERY-GD-THING in this country is now hyper politicized.

I'll be the first to say that based upon our laws and traditions in the USA, Rittenhouse is innocent and acted in a legitimate manner. Also, in accordance with our laws, the individual who pointed the gun at him should be charged with the crime of a felon possessing a firearm.

On the flip side, does he deserve a medal? In my view no, as he was simply defending himself, an act that has taken place throughout history.

The root cause of all of this is the hyper politicization of everything and the corruption of the bureaucracy and elected leadership. In my view, in their attempt to gain and maintain power, they have divided our country irrevocably with lies, othering, "free" handouts for many, many people including a very large number who are just plain lazy, convincing people that they are being oppressed by someone else, destroying real education, especially real critical thinking, and by disregarding our traditions and the intent of the law.
 
It's like there is no discussion anymore and there are just sides, when reality is more of a gray zone. For example i love gun rights and the right to self defense, but i dont agree Rittenhouse was that innocent by going out of his way to be in that storm. I do agree with the verdict, law is law. Somehow though it seems your are either in the right or the left and there are no in betweens and this is what the governments are doing to keep the population in control. Keep the population hating on each other and nobody will realize that the politicians or the system is screwing them over.

Both sides are playing on fear and beliefs because there is only one side... the ones in power. The more people discuss things the more they realize they share more in common than what they disagree on. But then that would mean people would actually go for real change.

Everytime I visit the US, you just see bombardment of fear on both sides. I end up proving and pushing my mother to see that its more made up than the reality. Which is weird as they are in a small town in Oklahoma, and i love that place. The US is still an awesome country and far better than most, except what you see in media are people instigating rather than have a discussion and this trickle down to the minds of the people. Like for example this congressional "gold medal." Kyle from the interviews already seems like he is trying to de escalate the situation, but he will now be used to anatgonize the "left." A lot of these people will take the bait and focus on that then the case on Epstein.

Anyone else here talk about "left" or "right" like its a clear line tells me they have all taken the Kool aide. Both people on the side has far more common with each other than what differentiates them. Peopel should engage more in proper discussion and debate rather than elemantary name calling and they will humanize and realize that they are all Americans and not the enemy..... Except for the group pushing for Filipinos to be called "Filipinx" yes those people deserve to die, and i hope they burn in hell. That and the people that keeps using the term "sheep, sheeple, sheep dogs and wolves" unless you took up arms and fight the government we are all just sheeps, some are just louder than others at going "meeeeeeh."

i may have been drinking /Rant. bandit you will be missed.
 
It's like there is no discussion anymore and there are just sides, when reality is more of a gray zone. For example i love gun rights and the right to self defense, but i dont agree Rittenhouse was that innocent by going out of his way to be in that storm. I do agree with the verdict, law is law. Somehow though it seems your are either in the right or the left and there are no in betweens and this is what the governments are doing to keep the population in control. Keep the population hating on each other and nobody will realize that the politicians or the system is screwing them over.

Both sides are playing on fear and beliefs because there is only one side... the ones in power. The more people discuss things the more they realize they share more in common than what they disagree on. But then that would mean people would actually go for real change.

Everytime I visit the US, you just see bombardment of fear on both sides. I end up proving and pushing my mother to see that its more made up than the reality. Which is weird as they are in a small town in Oklahoma, and i love that place. The US is still an awesome country and far better than most, except what you see in media are people instigating rather than have a discussion and this trickle down to the minds of the people. Like for example this congressional "gold medal." Kyle from the interviews already seems like he is trying to de escalate the situation, but he will now be used to anatgonize the "left." A lot of these people will take the bait and focus on that then the case on Epstein.

Anyone else here talk about "left" or "right" like its a clear line tells me they have all taken the Kool aide. Both people on the side has far more common with each other than what differentiates them. Peopel should engage more in proper discussion and debate rather than elemantary name calling and they will humanize and realize that they are all Americans and not the enemy..... Except for the group pushing for Filipinos to be called "Filipinx" yes those people deserve to die, and i hope they burn in hell. That and the people that keeps using the term "sheep, sheeple, sheep dogs and wolves" unless you took up arms and fight the government we are all just sheeps, some are just louder than others at going "meeeeeeh."

i may have been drinking /Rant. bandit you will be missed.
I mostly agree with you, except for Rittenhouse. In America, every American has the right to be anywhere, to go anywhere, as long as they are acting in a legal manner. Kyle had every right to be there, as much right as anyone else. However, the rioters did not. those that had caused damage and were attempting to cause more damage had no right to be there.
Kyle had a right to be there, he had a right to carry a rifle, and he had the god given right to defend himself.
Kyle was also requested to be there by the property owner whose property had been damaged the day before.
the rioters had waived their legal right to be there, by their destructive behavior.
anyhoo.
do you think its just a small segment of right and left pushing division, or do you think these divisive ideas are entrenched in significant amounts of people?
is the US hopelessly racist and rigged as such? Is the US prejudiced against anyone that is not straight, white, male and Christian?
I hope its just a very vocal minority that is pushing, but sometimes I wonder.
I have this idea that the republicans will take over come the midterms and..... nothing will change. and in two years the pendulum will swing back the other way once again.
 
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Good post @JimHPTN and @surfpunk

I don’t think Kyle deserve a medal or be hailed as a hero nor do I think he did any wrong by gunning down on self defense violent rioters looking to cause more damage to Kenosha.

We’re in a weird era where the more far lefties believes he’s a white supremacist, the MSNBC anchor herself told it publicly.

On the other side of the spectrum, I want to support the 2A and the right for self defense; I can’t side with the more radical of them putting the teenager on some pedestal either. Obviously he’s free, has endured enough as it is. He should be free of his own fate now. No one should politicize the incident to such extremes.
 
Incidentally, MJT isn't the most, let's say, commendable elected official in the US.

Having her asking for Kyle to receive a medal has as much value as, let's say, Sheila Jackson Lee, Ilhan Omar or AOC asking for George Floyd to be granted special honors.
That being said, Pelosi did organized a little "handing of the flag" ceremony with his brother...

From what Kyle said when called to testified and after the trial, along with what his lawyers said, sure he is glad to have been acquitted, but he didn't want to have to kill anybody. That's what he came for that fateful night.
But as surfunk said, every rights to be there that night, and every rights to do what he did. Every single rights.
As opposed to the rioters he shot, and even more so Gaige Grosskreutz.
 
I mostly agree with you, except for Rittenhouse. In America, every American has the right to be anywhere, to go anywhere, as long as they are acting in a legal manner. Kyle had every right to be there, as much right as anyone else. However, the rioters did not. those that had caused damage and were attempting to cause more damage had no right to be there.
Kyle had a right to be there, he had a right to carry a rifle, and he had the god given right to defend himself.
Kyle was also requested to be there by the property owner whose property had been damaged the day before.
the rioters had waived their legal right to be there, by their destructive behavior.
anyhoo.
do you think its just a small segment of right and left pushing division, or do you think these divisive ideas are entrenched in significant amounts of people?
is the US hopelessly racist and rigged as such? Is the US prejudiced against anyone that is not straight, white, male and Christian?
I hope its just a very vocal minority that is pushing, but sometimes I wonder.
I have this idea that the republicans will take over come the midterms and..... nothing will change. and in two years the pendulum will swing back the other way once again.
Kyle was all in the right according to American laws. So thats a case closed. My opinion on that does not matter.

As for the second half of your post:
Do you think its just a small segment of right and left pushing division? I think its just people with agendas that are pushing for the division. However these people will add on to their "ideas and agendas" to get more people on their side and thus have become mainstream rather than fringe. It piles on and when you look at it it seems the US is truly divided and will go for a civil revolt. When in fact the reality each and every American would probably have far more in common with each other than those "leaders who takes up their cause." However, that will not do and hence everything is focused on what makes people tick.

Is the US hopelessly racist... yes. It has a fairly recent racist past. That one sadly you cant hide. However, is the US more racist than any other countries I've been to? Nope. You guys just wont shut up about it and are very obsessed with race. It's in your government forms, culture an psyche.

Is the US prejudiced against anyone non straight, white, male and Christian... the US is prejudiced against everyone, just depends on which American is judging you. It' a nation of immigrants so its just tribal instinct to be prejudiced against somebody that doesnt fit your tribe.

Now here's the thing, so far all over the US, all those prejudice and racism somehow I can overcome, which means they arent that deep. Whatyou guys need is more conversation and understanding. Then you guys will realize that you all want the same things. That blackman screaming "oppression" wants the same thing as that whiteboy screaming "our way of life." My friends from the Philippines can fit in in Los Angeles (good god why do some want to live there) with rural Georgia (meh), they had the mindset of "S**t we are here and lets deal with it" the "natives" (you guys) somehow felt it easily to accept them.

Buuuuuuut thats not what sells news and that would be scary for people in power.... imagine No African American, No Latino American, No White non hispanic American, just Americans demanding for a better life for all. You might actually get it. So they sow separation and fear from the tribes, divide and conquer.

Sorry I'm all over the place, im still sober.

Trailer for the long post: Jimmy lived in the US, experienced racism, still very successful and made friends with racist friends from all sides. confused by all the races in SATs. Prefer boondocks than L.A.
 
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Its not just the US that they are pulling the woke racist old whiteman BS. Apparently early settlers in NZ need to a have statues pulled down etc etc..
Yet NZ apparently the least racist place according to some world poll.

...here's a talle tale of the desperate for votes politicians triggering all kinds of virtue signalling benefiting their own careers.

National party leader "Crusher Colins" tried to pull sexists card to oust a rival, ex leader Simon Bridges. Who plays the Christian family values guy with a tad bit of Maori in him. Cause we love our Maori and they play that whenever they can. We are like said the least racist place...He got caught selling political favors to either the chinese or Indians.
So about that same time, 5 years back he was overheard making some crass joke about sex. Colins pulls a me too and boots him out of the party on that, only she has zero political currency of her own right now with abysmal approval ratings...so instead the party booted her.
 
Its not just the US that they are pulling the woke racist old whiteman BS. Apparently early settlers in NZ need to a have statues pulled down etc etc..
Yet NZ apparently the least racist place according to some world poll.

...here's a talle tale of the desperate for votes politicians triggering all kinds of virtue signalling benefiting their own careers.

National party leader "Crusher Colins" tried to pull sexists card to oust a rival, ex leader Simon Bridges. Who plays the Christian family values guy with a tad bit of Maori in him. Cause we love our Maori and they play that whenever they can. We are like said the least racist place...He got caught selling political favors to either the chinese or Indians.
So about that same time, 5 years back he was overheard making some crass joke about sex. Colins pulls a me too and boots him out of the party on that, only she has zero political currency of her own right now with abysmal approval ratings...so instead the party booted her.
Still plenty of racisim in NZ but as JungleJim said In reality probably no different to any other country other than people calling it out.
I mean hell the the broadcasting standards authority had to publicise that "some one speaking Te reo Maori on television" is not grounds for a complaint.
As for statues, yeah in some cases it is probably warranted for removal when the actual history of things that were done comes to light, but i'd much rather see new statues put up along side the old ones.
But even the statues thing is done by both sides, a carved "pou"(marker post similar i guess to a totem pole) was destroyed here in chch one night last month.
Was it race based.... most likely......probably mixed with alot of ignorance and a fair bit of boredom.
But i think like alot of other places the classism is is probably worse, the haves and have nots, the beneficiary bashing, and the willful blindness to recognizing that no matter how equal we say things are that lack of $ does affect your opportunties and your outcomes.
 
LOL yeah the UK can talk. Look at your royal family. A direct result of cousins marrying cousins for six generations.... ;)
Yes but it's rather not-done to go on record to state that you're into banging minors because your entire extended family consists of inbred wackos ... and to claim that at least it's not incestuous ... ??
 
Following the Waukesha "SUV incident" (to quote Washington Post), 6 people died including a 8yo.

Today we are learning among the 60+ wounded, a 11yo's wounds became critical and "life threatening".

Incidentally, it is interesting to see the story is being kind of buried... "had the skin color of the driver been white..."
 
Two days after the violence in Kenosha, the New York Times found it important to write a 30+ paragraph breakdown of Kyle Rittenhouse’s social media because he supported the police.

They dedicated the time of four reporters for Rittenhouse.


For some reason, Brooks’ calls for violence against the types of people he killed hasn’t received attention.


Ah nevermind, the car did it.


Cars are getting self-aware.
And the more self-aware they get, the more hateful they get.

Mankind's fall will take the shape of a four wheeled metal beast. Driving down the streets, chasing after helpless bipeds, crushing them under their tires, smashing them against their hood, showering their bodies in the deepest arterial red there is, splattering trails of blood down the road.

The car, the hateful.
 
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He's training to be a nurse, one of the most trustworthy professions. Though he also considered becoming a lawyer.

Really the poor reporting that kicked it off needs reprimanding. The unarmed black man that died is alive and with a knife. You can't possibly get it more wrong. They need to end the pulitzer prizes for that kind of writing.
 
He's training to be a nurse, one of the most trustworthy professions. Though he also considered becoming a lawyer.

Really the poor reporting that kicked it off needs reprimanding. The unarmed black man that died is alive and with a knife. You can't possibly get it more wrong. They need to end the pulitzer prizes for that kind of writing.

They didn't rescind Duranty's Pulitzer for his denial of the Holodomor...
I don't think they care for such a "poor reporting".
 
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