Politics All Things Trump

[OldGuy]

Technically it started with 1.0 when they murdered Lincoln. There's been more attempts and successful assassinations of runners and actual sitting presidents of the R's than D's and I will arguably defend that JFK was more along the lines of a founding father's liberalism than what the D's had actually turned into.

After seeing first hand what Johnson was doing and getting away with outright lying, I firmly believe he was involved with the assassination of JFK. But only one of the group involved, it certainly had to have a lot of actors. JFK had no friends in government and his father was hated by just about everyone. When the MOB at that time was involved you know something was very fishy. It's the policeman killing that makes me believe Oswald knew immediately he had been setup to take the fall. He took off but I don' t believe he was the killer, I believe the real group or one were after him to keep him quiet. If my memory is still right and I could be wrong, but the weapon used in the police officer killing was never recovered. Oswald had no weapon on him when arrested in the theater. The final act a real MOBSTER kills Oswald, boy what a mess. Still have names of government people not being released to the public in the Warren Report sealed for 50 years and after 50 years someone with no authority craw fished the full release of names, due to people still living I suppose.

 

[Telmar]

Unless they manage to kill him before

No. You think Biden wins if Trump is assassinated? No you'd have considerable chaos. If planned by a political entity, it is one that wants disorder and civil war, that would favour the most armed civilians.

 

[NebrHogger]

What's with the plants in the kitchen sink? All I could ever wonder about seeing this picture.

Was that an unannounced visit of Clinton to someone's flat? I can't remember anymore. F***, time flies, doesn't it.

Wifey occasionally puts a favorite plant in the sink for a good soaking.

Hitlery's favorite plant doesn't need watering, though - just a regular change of Depends.

 

[Fluff]

No. You think Biden wins if Trump is assassinated? No you'd have considerable chaos. If planned by a political entity, it is one that wants disorder and civil war, that would favour the most armed civilians.

I'd like to think if it was organised, that they would have got the young man a scope.

So I'm on lone wolf or whatever you call it.

 

[Telmar]

The biggest security breach is'nt the snipers scoping further away than where the shooter is (further than 150 meters,) nor the evacuation of Donald Trump. It's that someone with a rifle can get so close. Access is supervised by local LEO more than the Secret Service from what I have read.

 

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[LimaCharles]

While listening to CBS this attracted my attention, "former high school classmate stated that the shooter was bullied throughout high school, but never expected this".

Sounds like the kid was taking out his mental traumatized angst against people that had nothing to do with making his life "hell" and just chose to make life hell on others. he was a school shooter with no school to shoot up but he had a target rich opportunity for multiple casualties.

This would explain a lot of why things were not adding up and was to the point of turning into a tinfoil hat zone.

And we've all seen what has happened to people who've been bullied, they tend to take it out on people.

Show's over folks, IMO of course.

 

[JimHPTN]

Thomas Mathew Crooks, matches the dead right there pictures of him on said rooftop. Registered Republican. Fasten thy seatbelts, gents!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/13/2024-election-campaign-updates-biden-trump-rally/#link-E6S6KETYXZGRBPKBRXNMAL3RAU

I'm not sure that his being a registered Republican means anything about his affiliation, as many Dems changed registration relatively recently in order to try to get Trump out in the primary. I read somewhere that he was an ActBlue donor. That, in my mind, is more telling than the registration form.

 

[Euroamerican]

That trick is done here in the US State I live in. The Democrats voted in the Republican primary in the Spring of an election year for the Republican that they most wanted their Democrat candidate to go up against in the Fall main election.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

While listening to CBS this attracted my attention, "former high school classmate stated that the shooter was bullied throughout high school, but never expected this".

Sounds like the kid was taking out his mental traumatized angst against people that had nothing to do with making his life "hell" and just chose to make life hell on others. he was a school shooter with no school to shoot up but he had a target rich opportunity for multiple casualties.

This would explain a lot of why things were not adding up and was to the point of turning into a tinfoil hat zone.

And we've all seen what has happened to people who've been bullied, they tend to take it out on people.

Show's over folks, IMO of course.

From what is known about his personal life, it "makes sense" he would snap and do something completely crazy.

Aggressively bullied (and those who talked to the press likely took part in it), isolated with little to no friends, outcast due to being a "nerd" and his physical appearance, both parents being therapists (that kind of thing has huge repercussion on a kid's development).

Kids in that sort of situation feel so completely ostracized, with little to no connection with others that they just don't care.

What he did was terrible, and could have been much worse if he had succeeded.

But somehow, I can't help be feel sad for him. Sort of, at least.

 

[HorniePonie]

From what is known about his personal life, it "makes sense" he would snap and do something completely crazy.

Aggressively bullied (and those who talked to the press likely took part in it), isolated with little to no friends, outcast due to being a "nerd" and his physical appearance, both parents being therapists (that kind of thing has huge repercussion on a kid's development).

Kids in that sort of situation feel so completely ostracized, with little to no connection with others that they just don't care.

What he did was terrible, and could have been much worse if he had succeeded.

But somehow, I can't help be feel sad for him. Sort of, at least.

Yeah, it can even lead to psychosis among other factors, but it's a little late to find out about it now.

 

[LimaCharles]

From what is known about his personal life, it "makes sense" he would snap and do something completely crazy.

Aggressively bullied (and those who talked to the press likely took part in it), isolated with little to no friends, outcast due to being a "nerd" and his physical appearance, both parents being therapists (that kind of thing has huge repercussion on a kid's development).

Kids in that sort of situation feel so completely ostracized, with little to no connection with others that they just don't care.

What he did was terrible, and could have been much worse if he had succeeded.

But somehow, I can't help be feel sad for him. Sort of, at least.

And the terrible part of those who were the bullies, is that they just don't see it, no mental mature capacity to understand truly right from wrong.

I once was disappointed in our daughter when she was a teen and had the talk with her when she was hanging out with some snobby kids her age. I asked her what was she doing online. She said that she was trolling her friends, meaning fellow classmates that were definitely not someone we knew of. I asked her why and she said it was funny. So I asked why was it funny to disturb what she took to be humorless. The answer I got was because they were not a part of her group. A clique in other words.

I explained how wrong it was that if she doesn't know them so why was she pushing buttons? We raised her better than that. We don't know what's going on. They could be an introvert or having problems at home, why make it worse for them? Afterwards I said to go see her the next day and make sure that she was okay and show her that life isn't horrible all the time.

They're now frick an frack besties young adults in their early 20's.

Some parents are part of the problem though without raising kids to have awareness and values. Either enablers of bullying deliberately or oblivious to it, or teaching them to hate others not of their skin color or religion.

As for feeling sorry, my line to feel for them is when they actively seek out innocents to take it out on. That's unforgiveable.

 

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[Ivan le Fou]

And the terrible part of those who were the bullies, is that they just don't see it, no mental mature capacity to understand truly right from wrong.

I once was disappointed in our daughter when she was a teen and had the talk with her when she was hanging out with some snobby kids her age. I asked her what was she doing online. She said that she was trolling her friends, meaning fellow classmates that were definitely not someone we knew of. I asked her why and she said it was funny. So I asked why was it funny to disturb what she took to be humorless. The answer I got was because they were not a part of her group. A clique in other words.

I explained how wrong it was that if she doesn't know them so why was she pushing buttons? We raised her better than that. We don't know what's going on. They could be an introvert or having problems at home, why make it worse for them? Afterwards I said to go see her the next day and make sure that she was okay and show her that life isn't horrible all the time.

They're now frick an frack besties young adults in their early 20's.

Some parents are part of the problem though without raising kids to have awareness and values. Either enablers of bullying deliberately or oblivious to it, or teaching them to hate others not of their skin color or religion.

As for feeling sorry, my line to feel for them is when they actively seek out innocents to take it out on. That's unforgiveable.

I know, I experienced that back at school for years.

Some do it for fun, some do it without realizing what they are doing, but some are doing it because they enjoy it.
Some do it to externalize on others what they experience themselves. But some do it because it gives them a kick.

Then come all of the other factors: the parents of the bullies, the parents of the bullied, the teachers, the school board, etc...
The parents of the kids are therapists, surely they should have been able to see the signs that "something was wrong".

But just like many others similar cases, it most of the time end badly with the bullied taking his own life and sometimes taking a few others with him in the process.

 

[OldGuy]

I'd like to think if it was organised, that they would have got the young man a scope.

So I'm on lone wolf or whatever you call it.

Obviously he never heard of bore sighting. The laser is the winner no doubt...

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[Fluff]

I know, I experienced that back at school for years.

Some do it for fun, some do it without realizing what they are doing, but some are doing it because they enjoy it.
Some do it to externalize on others what they experience themselves. But some do it because it gives them a kick.

Then come all of the other factors: the parents of the bullies, the parents of the bullied, the teachers, the school board, etc...
The parents of the kids are therapists, surely they should have been able to see the signs that "something was wrong".

But just like many others similar cases, it most of the time end badly with the bullied taking his own life and sometimes taking a few others with him in the process.

All reasonable points, but not everyone that got bullied, turns into a failed murderer. School years can be good bad, or meh, or a combination of all 3.

It’s some limited logic if the young man thought this will sort it, whereas right now, I’d bet on this pushing trump to the win. And from over here I’d rather have a guy who’s aware of being shot at, than one stumbling around not knowing who he’s introducing….

 

[BeNder]

I assume that it was the Fed's that raided the shooter's home (which is worse than the state police), and we may never hear the truth entirely. Would be interesting to know all the media types that this beta consumed.

Trump's got this in the bag.

Sad that there were fatalities at a rally. Stumping is as American as it gets.

 

[Chazman]

The media spin begins....

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