Even if we assume the British version of yesterday's events is more accurate than the Russian one, today's threat to attack vessels found to be violating waters claimed by Russia is something else. I'm surprised the regime feels a need to react so vigorously. You know what they say: Barking dogs never bite. If I was working for the Kremlin, I'd be worried of giving the impression that our grip on Crimea is not as firm as it is claimed to be.

Sorry, late to the discussion.
And no, I don't see how your interpretation makes any sense.

Brit vessel violates waters, gets no response from the Russians.
Next step: every vessel from every not-Russia aligned country violates waters.
Should Russia send a message by aggressively responding to 1 vessel, or should it then have to deal with sending a million messages to a million vessels instead? Beginner classes in economics tell me option 1 is cheaper long-term both politically and resource-wise.

Ultimate outcome on British yellow papers for both scenarios would be:
A) Russia responded aggressively: its grip is weak.
B) Russia didn't respond: its grip is weak.

Russia knows the west views Crimea as a "contested" land, despite the west's screaming that it only views it as "Ukrainian" land. Therefore, Russia asserts its version of the geopolitical map when need-be.
This "Oh Russia went pew-pew therefore its grip is weak" clownery gives me the giggles.

What's far more hilarious is NATO scrambling jets and ships when Russian vessels pass through the English channel. As though its passthrough would somehow politically question or militarily contest the sovereignty over British or French territory.
 
Sorry, late to the discussion.
And no, I don't see how your interpretation makes any sense.

Brit vessel violates waters, gets no response from the Russians.
Next step: every vessel from every not-Russia aligned country violates waters.
Should Russia send a message by aggressively responding to 1 vessel, or should it then have to deal with sending a million messages to a million vessels instead? Beginner classes in economics tell me option 1 is cheaper long-term both politically and resource-wise.

Ultimate outcome on British yellow papers for both scenarios would be:
A) Russia responded aggressively: its grip is weak.
B) Russia didn't respond: its grip is weak.

Russia knows the west views Crimea as a "contested" land, despite the west's screaming that it only views it as "Ukrainian" land. Therefore, Russia asserts its version of the geopolitical map when need-be.
This "Oh Russia went pew-pew therefore its grip is weak" clownery gives me the giggles.

What's far more hilarious is NATO scrambling jets and ships when Russian vessels pass through the English channel. As though its passthrough would somehow politically question or militarily contest the sovereignty over British or French territory.
Theres no disagreement over who 'owns' the english Channel - the name tells you - thats a joke by the way. And we dont tend to drop bombs etc like idiots.

The only assertive behaviour was by the UK, recognising the area as Ukrainian. Russia can beat its bare chest all day, and I bet the crews in 1970's Su24's were shitting themselves going against one of the strongest anti-aircraft ships in use, which presumably is why we sent that ship.
 

Odd to see that the Spanish Navy did not show up to try and intimidate/hassle our aircraft carrier and support vessels on their recent visit to Gibraltar :rolleyes:
 

American Black Hawk Helicopter Emergency Landing In Charles De Gaulle Square Roundabout In Bucharest.​

Two lamp posts, 1 car casualties, no human casualties glad to report.​

 

American Black Hawk Helicopter Emergency Landing In Charles De Gaulle Square Roundabout In Bucharest.​

Two lamp posts, 1 car casualties, no human casualties glad to report.​

At least they are not going to have to demo it there
 
R09 Prince of Wales returns to Portsmouth after a five-week test program at sea and the first long voyage to Gibraltar.
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I guess before too soon we'll see Iranian Makran 441 in the Mediterranean.
 
This is a worringly timid proposal and, once again, underlines both parties' divergent ideas. Which, I'm afraid, will turn out to be irreconcilable.
Problem is as usual, fighting for dominating the project.

There must be some supervising board installed in such projects. I don't care where it comes from, as long as it is the best.
 
If anyone finds a recent photo of the Portuguese M-class frigates Bartolomeu Dias or D. Francisco de Almeida that are in the Netherlands, it would be greatly appreciated.

They are more difficult to find than the most secret Chinese projects :P
 
They are in Den Helder, so I guess not difficult to take a picture. I was there once and you can see the navy arsenal from various points.

When you take the ferry to Texel you can fully see into the arsenal. The Navy Museum is also nice btw. worth a visit.

Here you go F333 "Bartolomeu Dias" (she got a new electronics mast it seems):

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A player claiming to be an active British tank commander leaked classified information about the Challenger 2 main battle tank to Gaijin Entertainment, developer of the 'War Thunder' video game, as "proof" that it portrayed Challenger 2 as unfairly vulnerable. The posted document was heavily redacted and carried "UK Restricted" labels, but those were crossed out for the (false) label "Unclassified". Gaijin contacted the British armed forces which clarified that the document is in fact classified, its dissemination being punishable with up to 14 years of imprisonment. (Source)

How does the old adage go … play stupid games, win stupid prizes? How on earth could somebody be such a fanboy that they'd risk doing time behind bars for leaking classified information? Imagine going to prison because you don't understand the concept of balancing in video games!
 
A player claiming to be an active British tank commander leaked classified information about the Challenger 2 main battle tank to Gaijin Entertainment, developer of the 'War Thunder' video game, as "proof" that it portrayed Challenger 2 as unfairly vulnerable. The posted document was heavily redacted and carried "UK Restricted" labels, but those were crossed out for the (false) label "Unclassified". Gaijin contacted the British armed forces which clarified that the document is in fact classified, its dissemination being punishable with up to 14 years of imprisonment. (Source)

How does the old adage go … play stupid games, win stupid prizes? How on earth could somebody be such a fanboy that they'd risk doing time behind bars for leaking classified information? Imagine going to prison because you don't understand the concept of balancing in video games!
Some people will do anything to win...........

 
Never underestimate the stupidity of people. Besides, why would they leak misinformation now, as the Challenger 2 is being rendered obsolete by the Challenger 3?
 
In other news, a Mirage 2000D of the French Air and Space Force's 3rd Fighter Wing has crashed near the Malian border with Burkina Faso. Both crew members safely ejected, suffering light injuries in the process, and were picked up by a rescue party. The French military has said that a technical malfunction was to blame for the accident. Military personnel have been dispatched to the scene to investigate. (Source, French)
 

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