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Footage of work in Ukraine of an unknown Russian electronic warfare system installed on armored vehicles. In the video, the Ukrainian FPV drone loses contact with the operator and flies past the target, after which it sharply dives down
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Apparently, Cubans don't think meat assaults are a good idea.
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The Ukrainians keep wasting precious Western equipment so they won't be given any more M1s from the USA or Leopards from Germany any soon. As I wrote over one year ago, they made a strategic mistake of giving the best Western equipment to poorly-trained troops, while the veteran brigades still use T-64s and T-72s. Recently, they have lost several M1s that were slightly damaged but its crews decided to abandon them. The Americans got pissed off and told the Ukrainians to withdraw all their M1s from the frontline which they did. Several M1s and Leopard 2A6s were captured by the RuZZians, as the Ukrainians don't make any effort to destroy the tanks that they abandon. Then, the Orcs use these tanks for propaganda to show the RuZZian superiority, while they are abandoned mostly due to the poor training of Ukrainian crews.
A former Polish Chief of Staff said it takes a minimum of 1.5 years to train a skilled tankman, while the Ukrainians started using their Western tanks after getting a training of just three months. The general said that some experienced brigades lost 2 T-64s, while other inexperienced brigades lost 8 more modern Western tanks doing the same job.
You can listen to an interview with an American professor here:
John Mearsheimer - Wikipedia
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On the other hand re-equipping and retraining experienced brigades means taking them off the frontline for months where as hardly anyone is going to miss green troops doing the same. Green troops in defensive positions will easily break under sustained artillery fire.
Ukraine doesn't have any luxeries so they chose the option which would minimize russians advances as much as possible.
Can't launch an offensive, no matter if the forces allocated are modern elite brigades or green cannon fodder, if your frontline has been breached in several locations and all your forces are hightailing it to the next defensible line.
Ukraine doesn't have any luxeries so they chose the option which would minimize russians advances as much as possible.
Can't launch an offensive, no matter if the forces allocated are modern elite brigades or green cannon fodder, if your frontline has been breached in several locations and all your forces are hightailing it to the next defensible line.
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The fear of loss of western equipment was one of the aspects that IMO delayed a better western support at the beginning of the invasion.
Loss of material is difficult to avoid when you are at an 11 to 1 disadvantage in artillery shots.
I'm hearing worrying voices that the fortifications left are very weak compared to the ones that got plowed through. It's difficult to assess another outcome but how many rounds were wasted in the counter offensive, and how much time was lost in making even better defensive positions. As for the West, lots of lip service but sluggish restart of arms manufacturing, slowed down by discovering that we are dependent on China for some elements to make artillerey shells.
That being said, and even if Ukraine would lose or get a bad deal in a negotiated outcome, Russia wouild struggle to police the country and lost also many thousands of young men in this conflict. The economy runs in a militarized version but the normal day to day economy is shot. They lost customer diversity in their gas and fuel exports, making them powerless facing the prices China and India want. In a couple of years, we would see the damage.
But in the short term, it would be a huge victory for Russia.
Loss of material is difficult to avoid when you are at an 11 to 1 disadvantage in artillery shots.
I'm hearing worrying voices that the fortifications left are very weak compared to the ones that got plowed through. It's difficult to assess another outcome but how many rounds were wasted in the counter offensive, and how much time was lost in making even better defensive positions. As for the West, lots of lip service but sluggish restart of arms manufacturing, slowed down by discovering that we are dependent on China for some elements to make artillerey shells.
That being said, and even if Ukraine would lose or get a bad deal in a negotiated outcome, Russia wouild struggle to police the country and lost also many thousands of young men in this conflict. The economy runs in a militarized version but the normal day to day economy is shot. They lost customer diversity in their gas and fuel exports, making them powerless facing the prices China and India want. In a couple of years, we would see the damage.
But in the short term, it would be a huge victory for Russia.
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Gazprom sees worst loss in decades as European exports falter
Apart from falling European exports, Gazprom has also been hit by stabilising natural gas prices following the Russia-Ukraine war.
www.euronews.com
Now the SBU should start targeting operators of shadow fleet tankers.
They feel very safe.
Also regarding Russians economy, it's broken beyond repair should have more war economy measures implemented it's super good for them. Putler can post GDP growth all nice.
Good plan continue Mr.Putler
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No need to worry a Javelin or mine will sort it into scrap soon enough.
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Your information would have made a lot of sense if it had been factual.
The best Ukrainian brigades, which are the five veteran tank brigades, have not been fighting for nearly 2 years. Right after the RuZZians were defeated in the north and the north-east. these brigades were put into a strategic reserve and taken from the frontline. They were not used during the failed "offensive" in the Zaporozhya region, as the Ukrainians wanted to keep them in reserve if the Orcs attempted another offensive from the Kursk/Belgorod area.
Furthermore, Zelensky decided to waste a couple of veteran mechanized brigades fighting the battle of attrition in Bakhmut. The Orcs wasted their prisoners, while the Ukrainians wasted their veteran troops.
As I've already explained to you, this was not the case, as nothing had to be removed from the frontline.
The Ukrainian brigades that are deployed on the frontline have 30-50% of their strength. By NATO standards, a brigade that has 30% of its combat capability is classified as destroyed, taken from the frontline and rebuilt.
I remember you having posted funny memes with Leopard 2A6s and T-62s in the same picture and your generally over-optimistic attitude towards the failed Ukrainian offensive in 2023, while I concluded that it would fail before it started. Also, you raised your concern about the Orcs having too many armed men and what it led to during the WW1.
As one of our Orc members pointed out, you don't know much about RuZZia. You underestimate her pain threshold, and her ability to recover and adapt.
The war has gone into a phase of attrition that cannot be won by Ukraine. It's all about the money, ammunition and manpower.
Likewise, the Germans inflicted insane losses upon the Soviets in 1941, but they suffered the irrecoverable losses themselves. They lost about 900,000 killed, wounded, missing and captured in the six months of 1941 and it was more than during the 12 months of 1942 when the battle of Stalingrad happened. They were losing more than they were able to replenish and their losses in equipment were even worse. For example, Guderian's 2nd Tank Army had 1000 tanks in June 1941, but just over 100 of them in December. The use of fuel was also unsustainable.
The 1 million 155mm shells that are going to be delivered to Ukraine this year won't change much. If you use 10,000 shells a day, they will last for 100 days. Needless to say, a good portion of them will need to be stored in ammo depots as a reserve, where they will be vulnerable to Iskanders and cruise missiles. The Orcs will get 3 million shells at the same time.
The only countries that produce heavy military equipment in the EU are Germany, France, Italy and Sweden. Their production capability is still very limited, though, while the Orc factories work 24/7.
For example, Poland does not produce any 155mm artillery shells from its own components. We assemble about 40,000 of them every year if we get the components from the Czech Republic. Normally, this amount of shells was fired in 4 days by the Ukrainian Army in the summer of 2022, while the Orcs fired 60,000 a day before HIMARSes started targeting RuZZian ammo dumps. The previous national-socialist government focused on buying a fvckton of hardware, while we don't have any ammunition factories that produce ammunition from domestic components. You know, when elections are coming, it looks better on a TV screen when a couple of M1s are behind your back rather than a few hundred artillery shells.
Speaking of Ukraine, it's purely dependent on foreign aid.
I don't think Poland is rich enough to spend $9bn again to support the Ukrainian war effort, including over $2bn on fuel.
Poland provided US$9 billion in aid to Ukraine since Russiaâs full-scale invasion started
During the two years of Russian aggression on Ukraine, Poland provided 44 packages of support totaling about US$9 billion.
www.pravda.com.ua
Speaking of EU aid, most of those are loans rather than donations. Could you tell me who is going to pay them back if Ukrainians keep fleeing to the EU and third-party countries, while their country is ruined?
We have already passed the phase when hundreds of thousands joined the Ukrainian Army voluntarily. Most of these soldiers are already dead or wounded and there are not too many volunteers who could replace them. The present replacements are of a poor quality and are often worse trained than RuZZian mobiks.
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Do you have a bit of a further read on that aspect?
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I listened to several videos in Polish which you wouldn’t be able to understand.
I gave a link to this article last year and it was written by a renowned U.S. general:
Think Ukraine’s Offensive Has Started? Wait for the Heavy Brigades
There’s fighting underway across frontline Ukraine, Ben Hodges says the decisive moment will be when hundreds tanks hit Russian lines.
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And on infantry side you have this:The Ukrainians keep wasting precious Western equipment so they won't be given any more M1s from the USA or Leopards from Germany any soon. As I wrote over one year ago, they made a strategic mistake of giving the best Western equipment to poorly-trained troops, while the veteran brigades still use T-64s and T-72s. Recently, they have lost several M1s that were slightly damaged but its crews decided to abandon them. The Americans got pissed off and told the Ukrainians to withdraw all their M1s from the frontline which they did. Several M1s and Leopard 2A6s were captured by the RuZZians, as the Ukrainians don't make any effort to destroy the tanks that they abandon. Then, the Orcs use these tanks for propaganda to show the RuZZian superiority, while they are abandoned mostly due to the poor training of Ukrainian crews.
A former Polish Chief of Staff said it takes a minimum of 1.5 years to train a skilled tankman, while the Ukrainians started using their Western tanks after getting a training of just three months. The general said that some experienced brigades lost 2 T-64s, while other inexperienced brigades lost 8 more modern Western tanks doing the same job.
You can listen to an interview with an American professor here:
You can set the video speed at x2.John Mearsheimer - Wikipedia
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that's why I always laugh when there is talk about Russia attacking Poland/Germany/whomever.
My question would be: when and if global issees like continental drift or an asteroid impact might in fact not be a more imminent threat than the glorious Russian army.
Just to explain how out of proportion Ukrainian "losses" are taken at present. The last BREAKTHROUGH in Ocheretyne which scared everyone up and about - we are talking about a pre war village of 3,300 people. For whom this isnt enough, please look up a rural settlement in your neighbourhood with 3,300 inhabitants and I promise, you will see this giant breakthrough with different eyes.
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just like FPV drones on the Ukrainian side. No ultimate weapon, no sign of underequipment. Just adaption.
Glide bombs: Russia's 'ultimate weapon' or a sign of Ukraine's under-equipment?
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