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It's not like Germany will ever use the Taurus themselves outside of WW3. Purely political. The big(ger) countries continiously have to be pushed to act by the smaller ones.
 
Yep, the war of “attrition”. No matter how long it’ll take us, we suffer few casualties. Let’s move on forward together. Ukraine will be reunited to Russia.

How many outrageous claim this dingus has made since before this full scale invasion even started, nuke Sabre rattling, threats against BoJo or Macron…

I’m reminded of this “It’s a long way to Rome” poster from the Nazi propaganda, and the Allies looking to dismantle fascist Italy after landing there.

It sure will be a bloody long way to ever reach Kiev.
 
It's not like Germany will ever use the Taurus themselves outside of WW3. Purely political. The big(ger) countries continiously have to be pushed to act by the smaller ones.
Mark my words, Scholz will send Taurus missiles in October – once the state elections in East Germany are over. He's such a calculating c-u-n-t.

The worst part is, he could've agreed to send those missiles today, it wouldn't make a difference for his party's approval ratings.
 
Mark my words, Scholz will send Taurus missiles in October – once the state elections in East Germany are over. He's such a calculating c-u-n-t.

The worst part is, he could've agreed to send those missiles today, it wouldn't make a difference for his party's approval ratings.
October, as in after the summer fighting season.....

Have Germans forgotten the russian winter already?
 
October, as in after the summer fighting season.....

Have Germans forgotten the russian winter already?
The government warned its parliamentarians they'd lose the whip for voting with the opposition, that's how close they came to being defied. Scholz and the neutralists amongst the Social Democrats are pretty much the only fraction in mainstream German politics who truly oppose sending those weapons to Ukraine. Heck, even the Catholic Church lobbied for it.

It's a situation eerily reminiscent of the political stalemate in the US: A breakaway faction prioritises approval ratings over safeguarding the country's vital foreign interests. And just like in the US, where maintaining border security and aiding Ukraine are seen as mutually exclusive only because political rivals tied them together, the inextricable dilemma cited to justify such folly is completely made up.
 
Take your amateur 12 step plan elsewhere and subscribe to the Mike1976 Three Step Plan instead.

1) Find window
2) Open window
3) Fall out of window

Repeat if necessary until desired result is achieved.
He may be attending the Orc analog to that in any case... whether he realizes it or not.
 
If Europe was seeing 4M arrivals in Italy/Greece, meanwhile Mexico was invading Colombia, I think Europe would focus on the arrivals, not something happening halfway round the world, and in an area we regard as USA's backyard.

And its an election year, so yeah, 'domestic' is where its at. Yanks are unlikely to decide who to vote for, based on who will kill more russians in Ukraine.

And Germany just voted again not to supply Taurus. UK and Europe need to take the lead, not keep asking USA to do it. We have 2 nuclear powers, 3 aircraft carriers, 8 nuke missile subs, etc etc. And we have a lot of money - which becomes the same argument as USA, no-one is sending trucks of cash to Ukraine, its being donated mostly to be spent in our countries, on weapons for ukraine, etc.

That said, its still a massive and cheap way of winning what remains of the cold war, or improving our position for the next war, without losing our own people, for all of us inc USA.

Well spoken, Sir

Medvedev: We may take Kiev, a Russian city, Odessa too and why not Lyiv.

#GroßeRussland.

This guy needs some help. Has anyone inroads to a good psych ward?

Yet the next hamlet past Avdiivka will take them six months :rolleyes:

On another message board someone made the effort of calculating when Ukraine will be conquered in full going by 2013 and 2014 pace, if Russia can keep up its pace, i.e. no inventories are depleted and manpower would always be readily available. I cannot remember the precise number, but it was >13,000 years
 
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The government warned its parliamentarians they'd lose the whip for voting with the opposition, that's how close they came to being defied. Scholz and the neutralists amongst the Social Democrats are pretty much the only fraction in mainstream German politics who truly oppose sending those weapons to Ukraine. Heck, even the Catholic Church lobbied for it.

It's a situation eerily reminiscent of the political stalemate in the US: A breakaway faction prioritises approval ratings over safeguarding the country's vital foreign interests. And just like in the US, where maintaining border security and aiding Ukraine are seen as mutually exclusive only because political rivals tied them together, the inextricable dilemma cited to justify such folly is completely made up.
OK, it looks like the chamberlainking will not end here until the Russians are at Vienna. I wouldn't want to, but nobody asked me
 
New sanctions this time also Chinese companies which were protected by some usual doubters before.

 
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The consequences of empty threats.
In international politics, every word spoken has great power and impact. And you don't just throw words around, because after a while nobody takes them seriously. It's like the story of the little boy who cries wolf all the time, and when the wolves really come, there is no one left to come to his rescue.
US President Joe Biden has been in tough communication with Moscow and Putin personally for the last 3 years. Shortly after his inauguration, in early 2021, he called Putin a murderer, someone he "looked into his eyes once and saw nothing". One would think that after such a strong statement, Joe Biden would never speak to a "murderer" again, never sit down in person, never negotiate. No, barely 4 months after the statements, Moscow marched its troops to Ukraine's borders and Biden finally sat down to talk to the Russian president in Geneva in June 2021, while calling him a murderer before.
What is the conclusion for Putin? You can make a butt out of the mouth of the president of the world's leading superpower by talking to him in the language of force.
 

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