Right now, the Russians on Telegram are in denial and others roll out the friendly fire routine (as though that made it better).

But if you watch the footage, it was definitively an Il-76 or derivative thereof. It's slow, it turns slowly, it puts out a metric ton of flares. And it seems plausible the missiles came from Ukraine because the first one explodes like a mile or so behind the target without having bitten off on flares, which seems to suggest it's a medium-range or lang-range radar guided system and the missile self-destructed due to having exceeded its safe maximum range. The Russians probably stumbled into the range of an Ukrainian Patriot or FrankenSAM.
It was the S-200 that has a range of 250-300 km.
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Ukraine retired its S-200s over 10 years ago, but Poland modernised their own and donated a few of them to Ukraine.
The missile weighs 7100 kgs, so it can destroy a plane, even if it explodes a few hundred meters away. Needless to say, that plane was not the B29.
 
These RuZZians are saying two targets were hit:
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The second plane could be an Il-22.
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Sikorski was proposed to be an EU Minister of Defence, but his party said that position is too low for him, so he refused.
He said what I have already stated. Trump doesn’t need allies but byatches.
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Helmet Cam Footage From Ukranian Special Forces in Zaporozhye. Feb 2024​


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Ukranian Special Forces preventing a Russian forces from entering the rear, in the direction of Zaporozhye. Feb 2024.

The Battle between one of the special units of the Ukrainian Defence Forces, in which their military use Ukrainian-made analogues of the HMMWV, MaxxPro and M113 armoured personnel carriers called "Character", "Sikach" and "Fox".

The battle took place against an enemy sabotage and reconnaissance group. According to the source who provided the video, the event took place in the middle of February in the direction of Zaporozhye.The enemy intended to enter the rear of the Ukranian troops, but was detected in time by a reconnaissance drone. A Ukrainian unit, reinforced with armored vehicles, came forward to intercept the russian group.
 
"Why you no send $60b to Ukraine!?!"

Meanwhile in Germany parliament has just about chained themselves to a Taurus missile to prevent it being sent to Ukraine. In France they've found some change in their their vest pocket and that's it for two full years.
France and Germany have both just pledged more military support to Ukraine, have they not? It's quite unfortunate and stupid that Scholz doesn't release the Taurus missile for delivery, but it's not like they send nothing.

Besides, since when does one strategic mistake make another better? Two wrongs don't make a right.
It was the S-200 that has a range of 250-300 km.
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Ukraine retired its S-200s over 10 years ago, but Poland modernised their own and donated a few of them to Ukraine.
The missile weighs 7100 kgs, so it can destroy a plane, even if it explodes a few hundred meters away. Needless to say, that plane was not the B29.
Interesting, thanks. But yet another reason to wonder, why does this keep happening? The Russians just don't learn from mistakes, do they.
 
France and Germany have both just pledged more military support to Ukraine, have they not? It's quite unfortunate and stupid that Scholz doesn't release the Taurus missile for delivery, but it's not like they send nothing.

Besides, since when does one strategic mistake make another better? Two wrongs don't make a right.Interesting, thanks. But yet another reason to wonder, why does this keep happening? The Russians just don't learn from mistakes, do they.
I’d guess the a50 radar has the range to work from that point, so can’t go further out. They probably updated the electronic warfare system, and carried on….

Whatever ukr used, I’d guess it homed on the a50 radar, hence no need for ground radar illumination, which would be a giveaway to the a50.
 
If the Russians still lose one or two more A-50's, they're already in deep trouble. They'll be blind in the sky. Apparently, they have only six servicable ones. The Ukrainians don't even have to destroy them all down to the last airframe. After all, they have to undergo maintenance, too. Shooting down a Mainstay is a massive victory for Ukraine.
 
If the Russians still lose one or two more A-50's, they're already in deep trouble. They'll be blind in the sky. Apparently, they have only six servicable ones. The Ukrainians don't even have to destroy them all down to the last airframe. After all, they have to undergo maintenance, too. Shooting down a Mainstay is a massive victory for Ukraine.
I don’t recall any nato awacs being downed, or even destroyed by enemy on the ground?
 
I don’t recall any nato awacs being downed, or even destroyed by enemy on the ground?
A couple of AEW- and EW-aircraft on patrol were lost during the Cold War, but not like this. All cases I can find at a quick glance usually involved the attacker acting unprovoked and with a blatant disregard for the fact the aircraft were in international airspace.

The Soviets shot down an RB-47 over international waters in 1960, and the North Koreans an EC-121 likewise beyond their borders in 1969.

The only incident coming distantly close was an RC-130 downed over Armenia in 1958 after it had accidentally violated Soviet airspace.
 
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"It takes a lot of courage to be a coward in the Red Army." - I. V. Stalin.
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And now Armenia is F***ed because it relied on Russia...

To be frank, if we let Azerbaijan occupy Armenia proper, we should all piss off and shut up.

If this would happen (I doubt it), it would be our responsibility to step up for Armenia just as we did for Ukraine. We can't call for international rules and then just shrug it off, because we like the Azerbaijani dictator more than the Russian model. If we let Azerbaijan conquer parts of Armenia proper and refuse support for Armenia, our credibility is out of the window.
 

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