Politics Protests in Belarus

[1645556315]

They also don't loot or destroy private property for heck of it.

Never was a Russian (Belorussia/Ukraine included) tradition in post-Soviet history.

Current situation is a quite different from previous elections in Belorussia. Seems this time not only usual pro-western/anti-russian nationalists mob are not happy with Lukashenko, now also conservative majority and pro-Russian flank are fed up with him. This election were a significant tensions with Russia (muted in western media for some reason). Seems even Russia is fed up with Lukashenko at this point.

However, most Belorussians are very conservative and also fully aware how these regime changes ended, they for sure want not became their country a second Ukraine. Belorussia still very connected with Russia and pro-western\anti-Russian revolt will ended with worse economical collapse. Police and army also will fight for their country (they want not Belorussia became failed state), not for Lukashenko. So i expect Lukashenko will remain in power, at least he survive this revolt.

The first world leader who congratulte Lukashenko was Xi Jinping, this is not an accident. Lukashenko search support to counter Russian influence and China never interfered internal affairs.

 

[Telmar]

Apparently, Tikhanovskaya is taking refuge in Lithuania

Belarus election: Opposition leader Tikhanovskaya left 'for sake of her children'

Svetlana Tikhanovskaya is in Lithuania after disputing Sunday's poll results she says were rigged.

www.bbc.com

 

[nemipuka_]

Regime change over the last few decades has gone one of two ways: failed state + civil war (Syria, Libya, Iraq, South Sudan etc.) or swapping one corrupt faction with another (Ukraine, Zimbabwe). I'd rather avoid both scenarios, more so because the exact extent of support for the opposition is hard to determine. The media can claim all they want that the vast majority supports the opposition rather than Lukashenko, but that's the same media that makes it appear like a large majority fully supports BLM, thinks rioting is "mostly peaceful" and will never vote for Trump just like they claimed in 2016. The same clowns that predicted the Conservative Party to be wiped out by EU loving Brits. And the list goes on. Just because there have been a few large protests (how many people attended multiple protests?) doesn't mean that the silent majority can't actually support Lukashenko. Who backs these opponents? What direction do they want to take the country in, towards the EU, Russia or maintain neutrality (if they even can)? How many of these protesters are just football hooligans, anarchists or other lowlifes that will seize any opportunity they can get to fight someone?

Too many question marks for my taste. Regime change is a gamble that has ended in catastrophe every time over the last two decades and people seem intent on repeating the same mistakes and hoping for a different outcome each and every time. We don't need another destabilized country on our borders. Hope for the best and expect the worst is not a plan.



It was only on the first two pictures, and it could just as easily be meant to hide their identity.

Most "Regime changes" over the last few decades were in fact Regime failures. Cultist oligarchies cannot stay in power without inflicting fear and brutal force, but at some point even these tools loses their effect.
Of course, dictators love to blame Soros, Western media, CIA, Mi6, Mi666 or whatever for their failure and for the troubles they're leaving behind.

 

[downsizer]

A lot of the videos leaking out suggest he is coming down hard.

 

[nemipuka_]

 

[ao_sepia]

i hate commy(police think)

 

[bfc1001]

I would nt even like to think who's the good guy and who's the bad guy in the above scenario . I would have thought those heavily armed police would have moved on what appears to be some dad's on a picnic with their daughters long before they could have potentially been put in harm's way .

 

[morris]

Looks like real men's love there.
- Have the flowers, guys, let's make love not war.
- We love you too, bunny, let's foreplay graeco-roman style.

Meantime in main arena Soros-Lukashenko are still head to head.
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[nemipuka_]

Some info about the ongoing situation in Belarus

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[Hiryu2.0]

Not my family more...

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[BravoZulu]

Short update:
- Looks like a draw. Protesters haven't captured anything of value, Lukashenko wasn't able to disperse crowds.

- Opposition candidate, Svetlana Tikhanovskaya made a video where she said that she have made "very tough decision" and that she is "maybe the same weak woman she was before".

- Later Lithuanian officials reported that she is in Lithuania. She is not trying to issue commands and so on.

 

[nemipuka_]

Workers at the BTRC (Belarusian Television and Radio Company) has rejected the rigged elections, demanded end of censorship, release of all political prisoners. In response, the Head of Lukashenko's administration and OMON officers rushed there to put everyone back in line.

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After the number of protesters spiked yesterday, Lukashenko shitted his pants and now asks Putin for help.

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He also demanded loyalty from the Belarusian military high command during a meeting at the General Staff, which hopefully will not be granted.

 

[BCNTM]

Sometimes I wonder why those tinpot tyrants even go to the lengths of pretending to be interested in free and fair elections.

Putin

 

[Dercius]

Putin

Well, I tend to think that Russia is far more than Moscow & St Petersburg, and when you compare Putin to the clowns and tools who have run against him..... Well, I wouldnt vote any of them if I was Russian, cant blame them for loving their country more than most westerners seem to do, as per latests situations we are wittnessing.
I suppose we cannot blame them for not wanting to have a Yeltsin 2.0 or a western tool like Yushenko in UA to come into office, crash the country, and open it for billionaires to buy the scraps for pennies, and their population forced to emigrate to the west as cheap labor and work for peanuts to be able to send some revenue back home. Not the prospect peoplewould like to have when voting someone for president.
IMHO most Russians would vote for a good alternative candidate with strong morals, working ethic, patriotism, untainted by the Oligarchies who puts Russian national interests before globalist-PC-agenda-BS. As nobody fitting this image has ever even tried to run for office against Putin&Co, and Russians see how the latest trendy sh¡t is serving us in the west they probably think...... we are better of with old Pootie.

As said before cant blame them.
Just my 2c

 

[Dercius]

On current topic,
Dont know if Lukashenko will fall, if he does, the power vacuum its going to be massive.
The outcome could be far worst than they ever thought for the armchair generals, hawkish-politicians, loobyist and globalists. I tend to think that given the chance a huge percentage of the Belarus Population would rather rejoin Russia than going full Ukraine colour revolution, and that could start a domino effect in certain places taking into account the grim economical situation that might be upon the world in a few months.
Just my thoughts.

 

[1645556315]

Well, I tend to think that Russia is far more than Moscow & St Petersburg, and when you compare Putin to the clowns and tools who have run against him..... Well, I wouldnt vote any of them if I was Russian, cant blame them for loving their country more than most westerners seem to do, as per latests situations we are wittnessing.

Western media portrays Putin as an anti-western dictator and opposition as a pro-western/pro-US democratic people. In fact, real opposition to Putin is a communists/nationalist/imperialists/other hardcore patriots. Most of the opposition local governors, mayors are Communist party members. Pro-western opposition is minor (however very loud).

That was funny to see how in 2014 western media portrays Putin as a leader of nationalists in Russia during Ukrainian events. While in fact nationalists call him a traitor because he does not support pro-Russian people in Ukraine with no-fly zone/military intervention/peace enforcement operation.

 

[1645556315]

On current topic,
Dont know if Lukashenko will fall, if he does, the power vacuum its going to be massive.

For me seems best option for Lukashenko was a Kazakhstan way. He must support successor but not elect himself. People are tired of him. But he lost this opportunity and then made every possible mistakes and now in a quite difficult situation (not desperate though).

Putin is much smarter guy and still have enough support, but i hope he won't run for election for the next term.

 

[morris]

"Opposition" handlers in Poland and Lithuania succeeded in pushing president Lukashenko into pro-Russian camp after EU tried to groom his rusophobia and win him to the West during last few years.
Lukashenko freed 32 Russian hostages arrested earlier and they are back home now to great chagrin of Ukrainian leadership who asked for their extradition.

Belarus Hands 32 Detained 'Mercenaries' Over to Russia - The Moscow Times

Russia on Friday announced the safe return of 32 of its citizens after Belarus detained them saying they were mercenaries sent to destabilize the country ahead of Sunday's presidential election.

www.themoscowtimes.com

More so, Lukashenko suddenly remembered about Belarus-Russia defense treaty to warn Poland off of any attempt to use force to support anti-Lukashenko protesters.

 

[berkut76]

Once again, even pro-Kremlin media is vehemently anti-Lukashenko. Pop singers are putting out songs "Lukashenko must go". Multiple covers of the famous Soviet song of the 1980s "We want changes" dedicated to Belarus are all over social media. Russia will be happy with any outcome as there is no indication that whoever will replace Lukashenko will suddenly change Belarus course. Sure, the flag will be replaced, but that's about it. Not even the Lenin monuments will come down. Like Armenia and Kyrguzstan. Definitely not Ukraine. That being said I was surprised that the Russians themselves are noting that Belarus doesn't want "deeper integration" with no more than 25% open to the idea.

The real question is for how long Russia will be able and willing to underwrite Belarus economy as nobody in the world needs MAZ trucks or any other industrial equipment made in Belarus. Russia can easily replace Belarus industrial exports with much better products from say, Korea or Brazil. All in all, when it comes to Belarus it's a typical Slavic choice between a horrible end or endless horror.