Politics Protests in Belarus

[berkut76]

Sounds like a recipe for mass change, and emmigration... does Belarus become the new Poland?? I'm not saying thats a bad thing, BTW.

No, this is a completely socialist country a la Yugoslavia. Poles do remember how painful Leszek Balcerowicz reforms were, and Poland did have massive backing from Western Europe. In Belarus in terms of economy thing look grim, in my view regardless of whether Lukashenko stays or leaves.

 

[morris]

Has NEXTA run out of money?

No one came to the “daily protest” on Independence Square in Minsk.

 

[morris]

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Did Russian hackers hacked your NEXTA?

 

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Massive demonstration again in Belarus capital with crackdown by Colectivos

 

[berkut76]

Just some of the photos from September 6th, 2020 demonstrations. The protests are spilling over to other Belarus cities as well.

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"Western Threat"

Kremlin Betrayed Belarus

 

[morris]

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Massive demonstration again in Belarus capital with crackdown by Colectivos

So they still have money on Sunday Sep 6, 2020 but didn't get paid on Monday?

 

[berkut76]

So they still have money on Sunday Sep 6, 2020 but didn't get paid on Monday?

There is no "Maydan" as an epicenter of protests. Nothing to "anchor" daily activities.

 

[morris]

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Lukashenko: What lessons can we learn? News of Belarus. Political squabbles and troubles that occurred during the election campaign and in the post-election period revealed a number of shortcomings in various systems of government and government. This was discussed on September 7 at the Palace of Independence. Alexander Lukashenko received Ivan Noskevich with a report.

• An action "For Belarus" was held in Grodno - right on the bridge, which is being built using a unique technology that has no analogues in the country. The workers raised red and green flags and spoke out against the current situation in the country. They are tired of escalating the situation and appeals on social networks.

• Belarus is one of the first countries in the world to receive a vaccine against COVID-19. The Sputnik V vaccine was developed at the Russian Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology named after NF Gamaleya.

• Roman Golovchenko became the first Belarusian to be vaccinated against COVID with the Russian vaccine.

Find the latest news here.

 

[Statk]

Some news about Kolesnikova and her pals.

According to our border guards "they tried to cross the ukrainian border absolutely of their own free will". Kolesnikova was detained [by KGB] 2 others are in Ukraine now.

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[morris]

Maria Kolesnikova was detained today by "police in civil clothes"

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Nobody heard about her since this morning.
Our officials deny she was detained. Two other members of Coordination Soviet probably were detained as well today.

The minibus was followed by a car with Ukrainian number plate(?).

 

[Statk]

The minibus was followed by a car with Ukrainian number plate(?).

That's Belarusian number plate region 5 Minsk district.

 

[Picanha]

I do not see any reason for Russian military intervention at the time. Actually military and police are the most potent parts of Lukashenko rule. Me think Russia will support him other way, and Lukashenko will paid full price this time.

But this is exactly the problem. If Lukashenko stays you alienate the majority of teh Population. An invasion would do the same.

Best solution is to get rid of Lukashenko, will of the people obeyed. The country is Russia friendly after all. So all happy. Belarus happy, Russia happy, EU happy.

 

[morris]

some details of the night escape of the Kolesnikov-Rodnenkov-Kravtsov trinity.

Everything is casual and calm. At 4.04 in the morning. Trinity is undergoing border control at the state border, so to speak, in a regular mode. The piquancy of the situation is that in connection with the strengthening of state borders, we have recently set up additional checkpoints at all checkpoints - KRP. One of them is deployed near the village of Aleksandrovka. It was there that the additional verification was carried out, and it was there that the incident occurred. The fugitives, seeing an additional obstacle, panicked, deciding that it was for their souls, so they decided to break through by force.

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[1645556315]

But this is exactly the problem. If Lukashenko stays you alienate the majority of teh Population. An invasion would do the same.

Best solution is to get rid of Lukashenko, will of the people obeyed. The country is Russia friendly after all. So all happy. Belarus happy, Russia happy, EU happy.

Fully agree with that, as i said earlier Russia is not happy with Lukashenko at all. He made lots of stupid decisions and mistakes and now we stuck amongst bad and worst.

In my opinion best way for Lukashenko was Kazakstan way - support successor and leave presidency. He lost that chance.
Me think Russia will get everything we want from Lukashenko and then after several months or may be a year organise new elections. Current protests are stuck and nationwide strike has failed, so if there will not any bloody false flag operation from protesters side or some massive stupidity from government side, Lukashenko seem have a time to transit power in more organised way.

 

[Mike1976]

Fully agree with that, as i said earlier Russia is not happy with Lukashenko at all. He made lots of stupid decisions and mistakes and now we stuck amongst bad and worst.

In my opinion best way for Lukashenko was Kazakstan way - support successor and leave presidency. He lost that chance.
Me think Russia will get everything we want from Lukashenko and then after several months or may be a year organise new elections. Current protests are stuck and nationwide strike has failed, so if there will not any bloody false flag operation from protesters side or some massive stupidity from government side, Lukashenko seem have a time to transit power in more organised way.

And you think the protesters will accept someone chosen and/or supported by Lukashenko? I very much doubt it ...

 

[1645556315]

And you think the protesters will accept someone chosen and/or supported by Lukashenko? I very much doubt it ...

Well, that is much difficult task for now, but still possible. Ofcouse if we talk not about protesters, but Belorussian people in general. Me think now Russian side will advise to divide opposition on neutral and pro-western ones. Then speak with sane opposition and destroy radical pro-western groups. I'm not Belarus political expert for sure, but think you can always find some compromise, a person who will supported by Lukashenko and moderate opposition as well.

 

[Statk]

News from Belarussian telegram front.

NEXTA calls for creating local self-defence units of 10-15 people coordinated by closed telegram chats. Self-defence units should command communal services, protect flags and banners from police forces and cover people during the protests. Also make some revenge operations and whatever they need for the revolution. Molotov cocktails all over local chats.

 

[Statk]

Me think now Russian side will advise to divide opposition on neutral and pro-western ones.

Right now someone is dividing the opposition on pro-violence and anti-violence. Or maybe it is natural process. Pro-violence part is strongly pro-western.

 

[berkut76]

Riot police, i.e. OMON against women. I don't know where the men are.

 

[berkut76]

Pro-Lukashenko with religious, Soviet, and Russian paraphernalia