The incoming administration in Germany is set to drastically raise Germany's military spending. According to coalition negotiation sherpas, the new governments seeks to spend €600 billion on defence over the next four years, with an anual budget of €100 bn (currently: €52 bn) as well as a €200 billion one-off cash injection purely for armament procurement. (Source) This sum would represent a tripling compared to the last "pre-war" legislative periode 2017-2021.

In other news, France has offered to extend its nuclear umbrella over Germany. (Source)
None of it is of any use without personnel.

A poll conducted among 1944 Dutch respondents found that support for a European army has increased from 42% late 2024 to 49% right now.

What hasn't changed is the personal willingness to defend the Netherlands or any other European country if attacked at 17%. Higher for people over 45 (not eligible for conscription) and utterly abysmal for young adults.

Ready to defend the country to the last foreigner!*



* Unfortunately this attitude is the same in most other European countries. So good luck with finding those foreigners. Dumbasses.

Suspending conscription was the biggest mistake ever.
 
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@Mike1976

Agreed. But Germany will return to conscription over the next four years, that's almost certain at this point.

As for the readiness to defend one's country, I've grown somewhat skeptical of those surveys. Obviously I can only speak on German matters here, but the outcomes have been too diverse to be explained by anything else than sketchy methodology. The often-cited Gallup survey is particularly dubious in that regard.

In Germany's case, a recent wider survey by the Institute of Military Sociology found that 42% would be willing to defend Germany. For men under 50, it's 61%. That's millions of people. (Source)

From a German point of view, the calcification of this country's administration is the biggest issue, because it's the least likely to be solved.

For example, all efforts to build up proper war stocks for ammunition are proceeding at a glacial pace. Only government-owned Bundesbau is allowed to build security sensitive buildings for the military (like ammo dumps), and that company has a 15-year-backlog of orders.

For every problem solved, two others are found.
 
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The big problem i see for us returning to conscription...although i would really like to see it as i think it is neccessary and overdue...the big problem i think are the non-existent or abandoned and decaying barracks.

Knowing how Germany ticks and referring to your "For every problem solved, two others are found." i wonder how that will work out.. and how long it will take to modernize the existing barracks or build new ones. I heard about ideas from tent-like barracks but i don't know...does that sound like a good idea?

But no matter how this could be solved, more personnel is the key. Just for example: Looking at the current numbers of personnel in service in the Marine and ships being built or meant to be built i don't see them adding up. As far as i know it's hard to even maintain rotating crews for the ships already in service.
 
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Even with conscription, the shortage of ship crews is likely to persist, as conscripts cannot be drafted to serve in sea-going units against their will. And the shortages have always been there. It's probably a matter of mentality, me thinks. Despite the Kaiser's wet dreams, Germany has never been and never will be a naval power. Two thirds of us live far off the coast. Most Germans don't feel a connection to the sea, at least not like e.g. the British or Dutch do.
 
the big problem i think are the non-existent or abandoned and decaying barracks.

If problem isn't lack of training personnel, this sounds a very solvable problem. Normal construction project.

As interim solution you can use same that we use when renovating schools: containers. We also lived in so called camp Mauri during international training period, made of containers but had all amenities.

Container school somewhere:

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Sweden orders 775 military trucks from Scania and Volvo to boost armed forces logistics

The Swedish Defence Materiel Administration (FMV) has placed an order for 775 trucks from Scania and Volvo to support the expansion of the Swedish Armed Forces. The contracts, valued at approximately SEK 1.4 billion, include an option for an additional 575 vehicles, with deliveries scheduled for 2025–2026.



The newly ordered trucks will enhance the military’s logistical capabilities by expanding on previous vehicle deliveries and introducing new models. Among the new additions is a 6×6 flatbed truck equipped with a tarpaulin cover and tail lift, providing improved transport functionality.

This procurement is carried out under an existing framework agreement, with suppliers selected through a renewed competitive process. FMV’s Head of Heavy Wheeled Vehicles, Jonas Silfver Wikstrand, emphasised the importance of this investment, noting the positive reception of previous deliveries and the strong collaboration with Volvo and Scania.





Under the contract, Scania will supply three types of trucks: 75 box trucks (6×6), 300 flatbed trucks (4×4) with tarpaulin and tail lifts, and 100 roll-off container trucks (6×6), with options for further units. Volvo will provide 300 flatbed trucks (6×6) with tarpaulin and tail lifts, also with an option for additional vehicles.

These vehicles will be distributed across various military units to support the transport of goods, containerised loads, and other vehicles. The investment is expected to significantly enhance the Swedish Armed Forces’ mobility and logistics operations.

 
The deployment of two Dutch Reaper drones to Romania to monitor the eastern flank of NATO has been extended by a year. 35 troops are deployed to Campia Turzii AFB in Romania to maintain and secure the aircraft. Another 85 personnel are involved in operating the aircraft from Leeuwarden AFB in the Netherlands.
 
The incoming administration in Germany is set to drastically raise Germany's military spending.
The new coalition government has decided that Germany will make a one-off spending of €500 billion on defence and security-related infrastructure projects in the upcoming fiscal year. Moreover, all military spending exceeding the sum of 1% of the GDP will be made exempt from the constitutional debt ceiling. In other words, the upper cap of Germany's future defence spending will depend solely on the willingness of the financial markets to lend the Federal Government money. And it appears as if the Chancellor-elect intends to push that limit. Merz literally said: "There's no upper limit anymore, we'll do whatever it takes." (Source)
 
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The new coalition government has decided that Germany will make a one-off spending of €500 billion on defence and security-related infrastructure projects in the upcoming fiscal year. Moreover, all military spending exceeding the sum of 1% of the GDP will be made exempt from the constitutional debt ceiling. In other words, the upper cap of Germany's future defence spending will depend solely on the willingness of the financial markets to lend the Federal Government money. And it appears as if the Chancellor-elect intends to push that limit. Merz literally said: "There's no upper limit anymore, we'll do whatever it takes." (Source)
Have they succeeded in spending the previous €100B?
 
Finnish Defense Forces placed their largest single order of cartridges since end of WWII. And more is expected.

Nammo's Lapua factory receives giant order from the Defence Forces: "There could have been something similar during World War II"
The order received is now worth 220 million euros. This means investments of around 30 million euros and 60 new jobs for the Lapua factory.

Nammo Lapua has received a large order for cartridges from the Finnish Defence Forces.

Ilkka-Pohjalainen was the first to report on the matter.

The order is worth a whopping 220 million euros. This means investments of around 30 million euros for the Lapua factory and approximately 60 new jobs.

Lapua currently employs over 200 people.

Lapua factory director Pekka Himanka says that the order is downright historic.

– There may have been a similar order during World War II. So this is the largest order in a long time, Himanka reckons.

Possible extension to the order
The four-year contract agreed with the Finnish Defence Forces may also be extended.

According to the newspaper Ilkka-Pohjalainen, there has already been talk of an additional order of the same class for the next four years in connection with this order.

However, Himanka stresses that there is no certainty yet about an extension, although there has been talk of it.

– Among other things, NATO caliber changes are coming to the Defence Forces. It may well be that there will be a continuation, but this four-year contract is already really big for us, Himanka says.

Nammo Lapua's factory director Pekka Himanka stands at the factory in Lapua.

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According to factory director Pekka Himanka, the order also requires investments in the factory's production facilities. Archive photo. Photo: Mirva Ekman / Yle
A lot of training work ahead
Nammo Lapua has recruited new people in recent years.

According to factory director Pekka Himanka, there have been a lot of applicants for the positions.

– Recruiting 60 people is hard work. We have to train every employee practically from the beginning ourselves. It's a big project, Himanka says.

The Defence Forces' order concerns cartridges for assault rifles and machine guns. So making them will be a large part of the production in the coming years.

– In practice, we are only talking about two calibers here. Of course, we are also doing other things at the same time. When we make large series, it is always a slightly different kind of production than civilian production for hunting and sporting purposes.

More production facilities
Nammo Lapua exports to about 60 countries.

According to Himanga, the fact that export orders can be handled together with a new order means investments in production facilities.

– A large order causes more investments because we can increase capacity so that we can also place orders for others on schedule at the same time.

Nammo's factory is located on a plot of about one hundred hectares in Jouttikallio, Lapua, so there is plenty of room for expansion.

This year marks a hundred years since the inauguration of the Lapua cartridge factory.

The Nammo Group is owned by the Norwegian state and Patria.

 
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Just buy Gripen already ...

Gripen is full of American parts and if I remember correctly US blocked their sale to Colombia. Edit: fake news.


For independence from the US, I think Rafale is the only option.

I think it's a bit shortsighted decision. These planes are in use for a long time with the US policies going back and forth many times.
 
Gripen is full of American parts and if I remember correctly US blocked their sale to Colombia. Edit: fake news.


For independence from the US, I think Rafale is the only option.

I think it's a bit shortsighted decision. These planes are in use for a long time with the US policies going back and forth many times.
It's a jet engine, not a Thorium reactor. If Ukraine can develop jet-powered missiles and drones during a full-scale war a whole bunch of EU members can develop a jet engine in peace time.
 
It's a jet engine, not a Thorium reactor. If Ukraine can develop jet-powered missiles and drones during a full-scale war a whole bunch of EU members can develop a jet engine in peace time.

Of course, gripen just don't have European engine right now.

Actually, rafale used the same engine. So maybe same engine could be fitted on Gripen with modification?
 
Pls don't

Either Rafale or Typhoon

But most likely nothing
Why not?

Gripen is significantly cheaper to buy than Rafale or Typhoon (and less capable, but it's not like Portugal is going to be blitzing Moscow DC any time soon 😋)
 
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