Politics The EU is killing Europe

[skaw]

Don't you read the posts? Because WE are losing our cultural history and going extinct due to demographic change.

 

[Chazman]

So, why is it 1.6 kids per woman in your own country? It’s even lower amongst whites.
Why do you lecture somebody if your country is not a good example to follow?

U.S. Fertility Rate Drops to Another Historic Low

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

Touchy, touchy.

Anyone who has the means and who is physically able should have at least 2.1 kids to at least replace themselves. If not, you are a selfish d!ck.

BTW, congrats on Nigel Farage and the Reform UK victory. Perhaps the UK can save itself.

 

[madmax17]

Whites seem to have less kids, maybe they have more intel.

Housing needs to be cheaper, releaste prices are exploding everywhere.

Feminism == terrible for marriage as it turns out, you wanna have 3 kids you need to start at 20-23 years old if female, meaning young.

Climate problems, people are worried will kids have food/water/shelter in 30 years.

 

[haze99]

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[Ivan le Fou]

So... in a landslide, George Simion won the first turn of the election in Romania.

Just like Georgescu last year.

I wonder if the Romanian Supreme Court or the EU parliament will, again, cancel the elections.

 

[PEMM]

@Ivan le Fou EU parliament cannot cancel national elections.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

@Ivan le Fou EU parliament cannot cancel national elections.

Heh...

Former Censorship Tsar Admits EU Role in Annulling Romanian Election

'We’ll also have to do it in Germany, if necessary,' Thierry Breton confessed—as up to 100,000 people took to the streets of Romania.

europeanconservative.com

And though Breton does not exactly say the EU canceled the elections because it didn't like the results, he does fail to define what constitutes "foreign interference". The level of Russian interference which was documented in Romania didn't justify canceling the elections. In fact, and ironically enough, the term "foreign interference" was a standard excuse used by communist regimes to justify various repressive measures, even when there was no foreign interference to speak of.
In the past I would have been quite sure people would remember this in the former communist Europe... but apparently not.


And the Parliament still hasn't answered the questions relative to Breton's statement, when a simple "no" would have sufficed.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-10-2025-000150_EN.html

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-10-2025-000414_EN.html

We are on a very, very slippery slope here.

There is such a disenchantment with elites in Western countries in general that there are power kegs everywhere ready to be ignited. Should the elites decide to go so far as not accepting the results of elections anymore, they will create exactly that.

 

[PEMM]

Heh...

They can send angry letters and whine. That doesn't mean they can cancel elections any more than I can.

If Romanian courts don't take care of their own sovereignty and fold under political pressure, the problem is there.

My personal opinion is of course that court should not have this kind of power to cancel elections results (unless there is actual fraud), in the first place.

 

[thelistener]

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Have you been to Germany, France or Italy?

There is such a disenchantment with elites in Western countries in general that there are power kegs everywhere ready to be ignited. Should the elites decide to go so far as not accepting the results of elections anymore, they will create exactly that.

I think you forgot to specify woke elite. I don't think you are "complaining" about Hungarian elite even though they are one of the most corrupt.

Whites seem to have less kids, maybe they have more intel.

Housing needs to be cheaper, releaste prices are exploding everywhere.

Feminism == terrible for marriage as it turns out, you wanna have 3 kids you need to start at 20-23 years old if female, meaning young.

Climate problems, people are worried will kids have food/water/shelter in 30 years.

With high living standards, birth rates fall. (ironically)
Hungary has tried all sorts of schemes but its still below replacement rate. Thus i don't believe housing prices or tax brakes will do anything to it. edit. nor policy in regards to immigration policy, nationalism etc.
And even though some migrant groups might seem like alien entity to Europe, even they aren't immune to this, their birth rates fall after a time.

What happens to a society in this regard is a discussion for a another thread.

 

[PEMM]

With high living standards, birth rates fall. (ironically)

It's down everywhere with world just hanging there at the rate of 2.2. Even India is now below replacement at 1.94.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

So, it's not about money, it's something else. I blame smart phones, and the internet, that have caused decrease in real human interaction. Just think about how youth spent time in the 90's - by hanging around in city centers, malls etc.

In the past you had to have certain amount of money to have smart phone and internet, that is why it hit richer countries first. Now they are available for everyone.

I think we need to think about how to get people to same spaces, such as having our teenagers in same classrooms (for example now we tend to segragate campuses according to main subject, such as tech (guys) vs health (girls).

 

[Picanha]

So electing Kremlin friendly Nazis is the solution to the perceived woke and bad EU?

Can have that - free choice.

But maybe some countries should go full in with their new super professional and so not corrupt (unlike the EU which we should better dissolve isn't it?) leaders and leave the EU because its not going to stop existing because of some net recipient members still being behind the iron curtain when the EU was already thriving.

Should put their money where their mouth is.

Or is woke money ok?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Perhaps you should slow down on the hyperbole, especially with people like Ursulla at the wheel...

When it comes to destroying the EU, its credibility and trustworthiness, these people are doing a great job on their own. They don't need any kind of "foreign interference".

As for the "woke money", that's pretty much what the USAID was, in addition to its European counterparts. So, yeah, "woke money" is in fact okay, Europe has been running on it for years.

 

[Redav]

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[Picanha]

I mean the transfer money. But again the 1986 born Nazi will surely use his expertise in business and industry to lead them to new heights.

He hasn't created one €.

Why accepting EU money at all?

Isn't that spineless?

To be on the take and at the same time agitate against it?

Look everybody is free to leave and join Russia MIR if their populace wishes so.

But carrying these Russian assets along and alimenting them is not going to continue forever.

I say it again Russia is utmost interested in having the EU fail.

Its very easy to delve on negative sentiments but all these right wing extremists have nothing to show for not even privately and they sure as hell would make a world so idiotic, broken and unjust that everybody would again flee to the " West".

Btw commies do the same and I sense a strange amalgamation in the EUs east of fascist ideas with commie past glorifications.

I feel sorry for the progressive people there.

 

[Redav]

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[Redav]

I mean the transfer money. But again the 1986 born Nazi will surely use his expertise in business and industry to lead them to new heights.

He hasn't created one €.

Why accepting EU money at all?

Isn't that spineless?

To be on the take and at the same time agitate against it?

Look everybody is free to leave and join Russia MIR if their populace wishes so.

But carrying these Russian assets along and alimenting them is not going to continue forever.

I say it again Russia is utmost interested in having the EU fail.

Its very easy to delve on negative sentiments but all these right wing extremists have nothing to show for not even privately and they sure as hell would make a world so idiotic, broken and unjust that everybody would again flee to the " West".

Btw commies do the same and I sense a strange analgamation in the EUs east of fascist ideas with commie past glorifications.

I feel sorry for the progressive people there.

Progressive deserve all the shite they cried for, sorry not sorry.
I feel sorry for the others like myself that never expected their countries to turn into shiteholes.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

You keep blaping about Russia, though nobody did. It has become the de-facto excuse for any failure of the left and/or progressives.
Anything has turned into a Russia-Nazi thing now. "Nazi" is thrown around so much it has lost its meaning, it became a trivial word that ripped away the severity of what it means and threw to the garbage the horrors committed in its name for the sake of winning a kneejerk argument on the internet.
And since we are talking about that... let's not forget how the EU wholeheartedly embraced AZOV, Banderists, ultra-nationalist-Ukrainians and all of these unsavory groups. So what? There are good nazis and bad nazis now? Let's not be hypocritical there, shall we? Or perhaps stop using a word that carries so much weight for silly reasons...

But since you seem fixated on Russia as the source of all your problems, most of the current issues haven't been caused by Russia. They were just bystanders who looked at things from the bench and let them happen. The vast majority of the issues plaguing Europe, from social, societal, financial, the market, foreign policies, loss of confidence at home and abroad, etc... are not Russia's fault. They are self-inflicted wounds, you did it to yourself.

Sure, Russia didn't help, but none of Europe so-called allies either.
The US were very fine with the EU coming down crashing, the UK is euphoric at the sight, even more so since BREXIT, China is looking at us with a mix of contempt and admiration since COVID ("oh man, didn't think they would go that far with their sanitary measures").

Wounds that got a lot of push-back before they were inflicted, and when they were being inflicted. Don't do it! It isn't going to work! It will have catastrophic effects! etc...
But nah... you did it anyway. And now your chickens have come to roost. Nobody forced the EU to adopt its policies, but the EU. Unless you are suggesting, since that's your go-to, Russia was behind everything currently befalling us.
All that is on the progressive and their failed dream.

That has got to be the lamest and most cowardly excuse to avoid accountability.

Sure, Russia is interested in Europe failing. Guess what, everybody is. The US, China, Africa, the Middle-East.

It seems like there is a tremendous lack of self-awareness from the EU, its leaders and most fervent defenders.



edit: oh, and while we are at it, pretty amusing what is happening to Merz at the moment.
That and the fact several members of his cabinet were born in Russia. *ooOOooooOOOoh! the boogeyman! watch out!*
Maybe Merz is a Russian asset, and Germany a Kremlin sock-puppet! I mean... that's the logic of things, isn't it?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

I think you forgot to specify woke elite. I don't think you are "complaining" about Hungarian elite even though they are one of the most corrupt.

And then there is Ukraine.

And Turkey.

Only one the EU has been talking about having it join the club.

Woke elites are another topic going beyond the progressive ones.

 

[Jake84]

Progressive deserve all the shite they cried for, sorry not sorry.
I feel sorry for the others like myself that never expected their countries to turn into shiteholes.

Now it’s time to do something about it but what? I’m gonna tell you what: nothing can be done.

 

[Musashi]

So... in a landslide, George Simion won the first turn of the election in Romania.

Just like Georgescu last year.

I wonder if the Romanian Supreme Court or the EU parliament will, again, cancel the elections.

It's unlikely, as the Romanian PM has resigned.