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Reminds one of the end of the Roman republic, where one gets sued to oblivion when one leaves office. Not just this latest, but the lawfare against Trump previously too.
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There's a Facebook group for fans of them, add Fans of Adam and Liz to your Facebook search and boom, watch the TDS lunacy in full.
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You can use an autopen, as long as POTUS is aware and authorizes it. There is a report that Biden was not aware they were pardoned. So....
And I want to F*** Trump's wife.
Better chance than Trump's idiotism.
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Trump Claims To Void Biden Pardons Of His Opponents
Donald Trump declared Monday he has annulled preventative pardons issued by former president Joe Biden to members of Congress who angered Trump by investigating the attempt to overturn the 2020 US election.
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You are talking about a country that still writes checks. Of course they have some Mechanical Turk for signatures.
Sounds silly that they would not have done this legally. Great I would like Shifty to get properly hammered but this is just far too bizarre. Biden himself a lawyer whom went to great lengths to find loopholes ends up going down for something so simple as a failure to sign.
Notaries have to be perfect.
Notaries have to be perfect.
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Thanks. What is that report?
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I think Tesla will be okay. It seems a whole new segment wants to buy a Tesla now as another turns them in. Also funny, are the crazed leftists damaging Teslas in parking lots. They are not aware of the various cameras on the cars getting turned on when someone comes near. These crazy folks are being identified and arrested.
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Yeah. No matter what someone thinks of Musk, destroying another person's property is never going to be a good thing.
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For sure. But its stock price had been overvalued by quite a lot. It makes no sense that car manufacturer that is number 11 in terms of built cars is worth more than the rest combined. Its stock value lost in three months what almost the rest are combined currently, I think most would agree
edit. might even be under number 11 in terms of built cars
It has long been known that the president of the United States uses multiple autopen systems to sign many official documents (e.g., military, diplomatic, and judicial commissions; some Acts of Congress, executive directives, letters and other correspondence), due to the volume of such documents requiring their signature per the U.S. Constitution. Some say Harry Truman was the first president to use the autopen as a way of responding to mail and signing checks.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> Others credit Gerald Ford as the first president to openly acknowledge his use of the autopen,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a> but Lyndon Johnson allowed photographs of his autopen to be taken while he was in office, and in 1968 the National Enquirer ran them along with the front-page headline "The Robot That Sits In For The President."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-14"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a>
While visiting France, Barack Obama authorized the use of an autopen to create his signature which signed into law an extension of three provisions of the Patriot Act.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-15"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a> On January 3, 2013, he signed the extension to the Bush tax cuts, using the autopen while vacationing in Hawaii.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-16"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a> In order to sign it by the required deadline, his other alternative would have been to have had the bill flown to him overnight.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-17"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a> Republican leaders questioned whether this use of the autopen met the constitutional requirement for signing a bill into law,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-18"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a> but the validity of presidential use of an autopen had not been actually tested in court.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-19"><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a> In 2005, George W. Bush asked for and received a favorable opinion from the Department of Justice regarding the constitutionality of using the autopen, but did not use it himself.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-DoJ2005-20"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-21"><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-22"><span>[</span>22<span>]</span></a>
In May 2024, Joe Biden directed an autopen be used to sign legislation providing a one-week funding extension for the Federal Aviation Administration. Biden was traveling in San Francisco at the time, and wished to avoid any lapse in FAA operations, while a five-year funding bill was being voted on by Congress.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-23"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a> In March 2025, President Trump declared that pardons for members of the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack issued during Biden's presidency are void due to them allegedly being signed by autopen. However, in 2024, the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that pardons do not have to be in writing.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen#cite_note-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a>
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