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[skaw]

Wow, didn't have that on my radar, at least not so deep in detail. Yes, i knew there was a disagreement about the Gepard ammo but the part about the use of Swiss-made weapons in defence leaves me speechles.

 

[muck]

Wow, didn't have that on my radar, at least not so deep in detail. Yes, i knew there was a disagreement about the Gepard ammo but the part about the use of Swiss-made weapons in defence leaves me speechles.

I understand the Swiss believe their neutrality is what's maintained their freedom and peaceful existence throughout the 20th century. It's still weird. Same with the Austrians, who recently pulled the bulk of their contingent from a Greek air war exercise only because Israel is also participating. Their reasoning being that since Israel is a nation at war, they can't take part without breaching their neutrality. Colossal nonsense. I'm not sure what's more annoying—backstabbers like Orban, Erdogan and Trump, or the ultra-orthodox neutralists in Bern, Vienna and Dublin.

 

[skaw]

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I'm not sure what's more annoying—backstabbers like Orban, Erdogan and Trump, or the ultra-orthodox neutralists in Bern, Vienna and Dublin.

And inbetween the states with more backstabbing factions lurking and waiting for their first term. Hard to be optimistic for the future.

 

[Mike1976]

Fully agreed, although your price comparison isn't taking inflation into account. For example, Helge Ingstad's price tag of $453 million in 2003 would be about $790 million in today's money. And it wasn't a particularly capable design.

I do think they'll team up with Britain and buy Type 26 frigates.

I was comparing 2003 prices for both the Norwegian and Dutch ships. Considering the Dutch replacements will cost more than €1,5b each the Norwegians aren't going to get a replacement (really -upgrade-) for much less

The Type 26 seems like a more suitable replacement for them in terms of size and cost unlike the Dutch and German plans for a destroyer "Shut up you muppet! We're calling it a "frigate" ".

 

[Mike1976]

We've decided to decline Mercedes and are now buying Volkswagen. Nothing wrong with a Volkswagen, but it's nowhere near a Merc ...

Portugal approaches Saab to purchase Gripen fighter jets following withdrawal from US F-35 program

Portugal approaches Saab to purchase Gripen fighter jets following withdrawal from US F-35 program

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