Politics Riots in Kazakhstan - jan 2022

[morris]

Samat Abish, the nephew of ex-President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev, was detained in Alma-Ata

 

[MartinLavin]

Some interesting media:

https://static.life.ru/publications/2022/1/7/850228712706.6692.mp4

 

[morris]

Arman "The wild"
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Arman Jumageldiev ("Arman the Wild") has been detained.
Five people were detained together with Arman. Four pistols, ammunition for them, edged weapons and an armored vehicle were confiscated from them.

Arman recently returned to Kazakhstan from Turkey.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

According to the Ministry of Energy of Kazakhstan, oil and gas production in Kazakhstan did not stop. The decline in production was only at the Tengiz field due to restrictions on the export of products. All three refineries of the republic are operating normally.

Which begs the question: why would the prices go up in a country producing its own energy?

To balance the decline from Tengiz? And that decline would warrant a 100% increase in price?

Sounds a bit weird.


Also, that Arman guy looks like the "regular" (from a local pov) criminal gang thug. Though, coming from Turkey?
Lots a bad stuff transiting in Turkey it seems...

 

[morris]

Which begs the question: why would the prices go up in a country producing its own energy?

To balance the decline from Tengiz? And that decline would warrant a 100% increase in price?

Sounds a bit weird.

Greed.
BTW, even with that increase the price of automotive gas was way below price elsewhere while wages are higher then in other stans.
The real reason for riots wasn't the price increase but rivalry between 2 aristocratic Chengizid clans.

 

[morris]

Also, that Arman guy looks like the "regular" (from a local pov) criminal gang thug.

He is what they call a criminal authority. It is claimed that Arman is Nursultan Nazarbayev's man, Nazarbayev had connection with Turkey long term strategy of Greater Turan.

 

[Иван Феоктистов]

At the same time, as reported by Russian media:

In his nation address statement Tokaev said that he gave the order for the military and police to shoot to kill.
He also said that 20 thousand bandits attacked Alma-Ata, including foreign nationals.

No comments... I don't think this guy knows how to diffuse this situation.

I think this is a sound decision. If you say openly that soon everyone will start shooting at everyone, the uncertain crowd will scatter home. As for the rest... The armed people who are smashing government buildings and shops are really bandits. Although, I think, their number is still overestimated.

 

[morris]

Fugitive Kazakh banker Mukhtar Ablyazov said he is the leader of opposition and protests in the republic.

Mukhtar Qabyluly Ablyazov is a Kazakh businessman and political activist who served as chairman of Bank Turan Alem, and is a co-founder and a leader of the unregistered political party Democratic Choice of Kazakhstan.

Latest court ruling ratchets up pressure on Mukhtar Ablyazov

Mukhtar Ablyazov, who has been described in the British press as the world’s richest runaway fraudster, is wanted in Kazakhstan, Russia and Ukraine and has been convicted in absentia for crimes ran…

eu-ocs.com

 

[Иван Феоктистов]

Soviet nostalgics are to be mostly found in Western countries.

"Communism was awesome", "communism was never really tried", "it wasn't done properly", "Stalin wasn't such a bad guy", "viva el Che!", etc...

In Russia and former soviet countries you won't see much teenagers, young adults and adults cheering for "the good old days" to be back.

For some reason, in our regional branch of the Communist Party, the situation is reversed ?
However, it seems that such topics are best discussed in a separate thread or in private messages.

 

[1645556315]

It’s fair game to try to compare different unrest but BLM/French YV or the KZ latest violence seen have no real common ground or spark tbh.

Kazakhstan riot is most comparable with Kyrgizstan "revolutions". For western public i think most known similar is "arab spring" riots.

Also, you guys a bit overestimate "corruption issues" as a main reason. Kazakhs (and central asians in general, well may be any asians, i do not know) often see corruption not as a problem, but as opportunity and advantage. Part of national identity.

 

[Иван Феоктистов]

 

[morris]

Tajik servicemen board an Il-76MD to be sent to Kazakhstan. They have RPG-7 grenade launchers, PKM machine guns and SVD sniper rifles.

 

[Devil Child]

For some reason, in our regional branch of the Communist Party, the situation is reversed ?
However, it seems that such topics are best discussed in a separate thread or in private messages.

Yes. This is an informative thread on an important ongoing world event, thank you to those who make it worth reading.

 

[morris]

US, Foreign NGOs May Have Played Key Role In Social Unrest In Kazakhstan - Expert - UrduPoint

Generous funding from international non-government organizations (NGOs) and the US government has played a key role in the social unrest that has gripped Kazakhstan in recent days, Executive Vice President of Eurasia Group Earl Rasmussen told Sputnik on Friday.The beginning of 2022 in Kazakhstan...

www.urdupoint.com

 

[Иван Феоктистов]

Nursultan

 

[morris]

Statement by the newly formed Kazakhstan Liberation Front.

 

[Иван Феоктистов]

Statement by the newly formed Kazakhstan Liberation Front.
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We have already analyzed this video. It's fake. In addition, the speakers' language has a strong Ukrainian or Kuban accent, which is not typical for Kazakhstan.

 

[morris]

We have already analyzed this video. It's fake. In addition, the speakers' language has a strong Ukrainian or Kuban accent, which is not typical for Kazakhstan.

What about this one? It is supposed to be Kazakh protests coordinator in Ukraine.

 

[morris]

Tony Blair faces fresh scrutiny over dealings with Kazakhstan regime

Tony Blair is facing renewed scrutiny over his dealings with the Kazakhstan regime amid deadly protests in the country.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Иван Феоктистов]

What about this one? It is supposed to be Kazakh protests coordinator in Ukraine.
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Bro, does he look like the leader of something serious?) Yes, this is a Kazakh. He says that he is "the coordinator of the headquarters of democratic elections in Kazakhstan." A knocked out tooth makes it very difficult to understand what he is saying.