Politics Riots in Gaza and Israel

[Picanha]

no no no

Don't give me this 'Middle East is backward' speech now that you guys have left the region with your tail between your legs, having failed in every military adventure ya'll initiated over here. You and the West represent a dying power; the likes of Iran and China on the other hand are rising powers.

Iran is already the regional superpower. With the United States finally succumbing to Iran's defiance with regards to the upcoming nuclear agreement, Iran's power is going to become global. In the meanwhile, you guys are occupied with Wokism discussions and French/British fishing quota.

The West is dying and China is rising. I have heard that so often from certain circles.

That is a quick death. In the meantime ask yourself on what foundations todays word is built on.

 

[Fluff]

Yeah its clear, the west in finished! Iran just makes it on, behind UAE, remind me again how many people you have?

Please read some history, the 'west' went to war to destroy a lunatic, we could have stayed home, even the UK could have done a deal with nice old Mr Hitler, we didnt. Same for Saddam, I'd say he learnt his lesson?

The 'west' is a sleeping tiger, for sure China is coming up, so what, thats possibly a good thing, they are no-where near powerful enough to take on the rest of the world, if thats what they wanted - which I dont believe it is. Iran would be better to keep its money, and invest in infrastructure, and R&D, for the time after oil runs out. Maybe build some solar farms?

 

[Mardonius]

You see.

When I see you guys patting yourself on the back, trying to artificially boost morale and act ya'll are still relevant, I'm not merely rejoicing. It's the tragedy of a has-been power who doesn't realize that he is dying. It's not only that the West has failed in places such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Mali, but also the self-destructive nature of the enlightenment philosophy that is now plaguing western societies. Wokism, critical race theory and social justice movements are all products of this moral absolutism and universalism that western liberal thought preaches, but which has now spectacularly backfired because it inadvertently holds one's own past and present actions to light.

So now you guys are embroiled in a endless culture war which is not only dividing your societies, but which is also restraining the West' military conduct on the global stage: no appetite for cold-hearted realpolitik because of past failures and societal pressure (as a result of this moral absolutism); unwilling or unable to accept significant sacrifices because all this abundance of wealth in your societies has led to decadance and a risk-averse mentality that prevents overseas operations and bold moves; a loss of imperial big dick energy and forward-looking courage because of internal squabbling; a loss of spirituality in western societies because of out-of control individualism and capitalism; etc.

The die has been cast and there is no turning back. The West is dying.

In the meanwhile, the likes of Iran and China are absolutely fearless, calculated and strategic.

 

[Picanha]

Whatever. The Notion About wokism, gender shenanigans etc. is not the dominant thing if you haven't noticed.

Where is Irans Covid-19 vaccine? Despite absolutely not being gay, fearless, bold and super manly it doesn't have one.

The gay fluffy West has not one but several and the capacities to produce them.

This narrative of the failed "West" is mostly pushed by people wanting another Superpower emerge through which they can live grandeur. Here USAEVIL GAY WEST WOKERS we will show it to you.

I already said it elsewhere but that is what defines the "West", not race not country evrybody can be "Western". It's a state of mind built on certain principles. And I hope it prevails in light of the evil empires rising.

But I am confident. Offering the better society results in better overall performance. I do not believe in authoritarianism and I think it eventually will lose.

The "West" is also not interested in occupying countries forever.

 

[Mardonius]

Where is Irans Covid-19 vaccine? Despite absolutely not being gay, fearless, bold and super manly it doesn't have one.

Yes, it does. Developed by female Iranian physician Minoo Mohraz.

COVIran Barekat - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Didn't Iran reject the early COVID-19 vaccines because it was afraid of catching the big gae?

 

[FLYNAVY]

Gaza as a Military Testing Ground for Iran​

Col. (ret.) Dr. Jacques Neriah

Whoever thinks that the last campaign between Israel and Hamas and the Islamic Jihad was a geographically limited campaign on a limited battlefield is wrong. Upon examining the course of the 11-day war, we cannot help but understand that it was a rehearsal for what is expected on Israel’s northern front. This war in the Gaza Strip was nothing more than a military testing ground for Iran and Hizbullah. They were able to measure Israel’s firepower, its interception capability, and its limitations of power as expressed by the almost irrational care of avoiding harm to population centers. Israel’s concern for innocent lives was borne out of the fear of the world’s reaction and being accused of crimes against humanity, its dependence on the United States, and the drift that undermined Israel’s position in world public opinion, especially among the U.S. Democratic Party, the party of President Joe Biden.

Decision-makers in Israel, as well as politicians, army officers, and academics often repeat a statement attributed to the Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah. He allegedly said after leaving his bunker following the 2006 Second Lebanon War that had he known that his decision to provoke Israel would cause such destruction, he would not have started the war at all. Accordingly, analysists conclude time and again that the lack of Hizbullah’s military action against Israel and its hesitancy to do so in the foreseeable future stems from Israeli deterrence. Accordingly, analysts conclude time and again that the lack of Hizbullah’s military action against Israel and its hesitancy to do so in the foreseeable future stems from Israeli deterrence.

In practice, since 2006, Hizbullah has embarked on an unprecedented reorganization and re-arming effort with Iranian funding and training while accumulating a rocket arsenal of more than 140,000 missiles, some of which with extremely high accuracy. [By contrast, Hamas in Gaza had an estimated 15,000 rockets when it launched its war in May 2014.] Hizbullah analyzed Hamas’ battles against the IDF and will adopt a doctrine of warfare adapted to the new reality. Hizbullah also publicly announced its plan to capture the Galilee by mobilizing its elite units – the Radwan units – for the construction of a network of underground assault tunnels, command bunkers, and an extensive maze of fortifications of which only a fraction was exposed some two years ago on the Lebanese border and subsequently neutralized by the IDF. Hizbullah has developed its drone corps and naval units that are prepared to attack Israel’s gas rigs southwest of Lebanon’s coast. In addition, as Iran’s proxy force in the region, its combat units have gained valuable operational experience in urban warfare following battles in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen, where it was sent to fight by its commanders in Tehran.

All of the above elements have been implemented in the Gaza Strip by Hamas and Islamic Jihad. It is, therefore, no wonder that Iran is behind the Palestinian war effort. Ramez Halabi, a senior member of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, was interviewed on Iraqi television on May 8, 2021. He explained that every weapon in his organization’s possession was purchased with Iranian funding and that all his men were trained in Iran. Mocking Israel, he added that every missile bears the signature of the late Qasem Suleimani. What a wonder that after the fighting subsided, Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, who resides in Qatar, thanked Iran for the financial assistance and weaponry it has extended to Hamas!

From the Palestinian perspective, the war proved that the “Israeli demon” was not as frightening as it used to be. In fact, Israel’s last military victory was in 1982, which eventually resulted in the withdrawal from southern Lebanon in 2000 under Hizbullah’s military pressure. The result of the war in 2006 was seen as Hizbullah’s victory over Israel, while 2014 demonstrated the extent to which Israel refrains from initiating a massive ground entry into the Gaza Strip.

Israel’s policy of divide and rule between Hamas in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority (PA) has boomeranged. The weakening of the PA eventually led to the strengthening of Hamas and its becoming the dominant factor vis-à-vis Israel. Furthermore, Hamas realized that Israel had wrongly assessed – until the last minute – that Hamas lacked interest in a military confrontation and was deterred. This assessment is paired with the constantly reiterated statement that Israel has no interest in a ground attack on Gaza in order to bring down Hamas. Thanks to the “Iron Dome,” the assessment continues, Israel can be satisfied by action against Hamas from outside of Gaza boundaries.

Fear that Inhibits Bold Actions​

However, these statements are rooted in the Palestinian perception inherent to Israel’s weakness: a reluctance to introduce its forces into Gaza for fear of casualties and refusal to control another two million Palestinians. These conclusions are chronicled in Tehran and Hizbullah because the parallel to the situation in Lebanon is self-evident!

It does not bode well for Israel that its weaknesses were apparent not only to the Palestinian public but especially to Hizbullah and Iran, who studied Israel’s behavior during the 11 days of fighting.

The war in Gaza must serve as a very loud wake-up call and cause Israel to rethink its policy toward its enemies in the Arab world. The rising situation requires a drastic change in Israel’s reactions: no more restraint, which is the source of all evil.

Continuing the same policy of restraint and the hesitation to use force may encourage Iran and Hizbullah to continue their plans to surprise Israel on other fronts. This is possible should they conclude that Israel will strive to avoid any frontal confrontation with Hizbullah and a ground incursion that could result in significant casualties by exposing Israel’s homefront to significant attacks.

Gaza as a Military Testing Ground for Iran

Israel’s war effort in Gaza is being analyzed by Iran and Hizbullah - Gaza as a Military Testing Ground for Iran

jcpa.org

M: If Gaza was a testing ground for Iran's coming invasion of Israel then we're ready to put into practice what we learned in the 11 days. Let hamas & hezbollah know that not all airstrikes on the leadership coastal mansions or where ever they are hiding will not always come with a soft knock. Israeli ground troops, why put our lives at risk when airstrikes work just fine. The tunnel network is easy to find & destroy with the right ordinance. Do you think the strike on Suleimani was an accident? We have the best intelligence system in the world. If you're waiting for the US to send plane loads of cash just to come to the negotiating table you would be wrong, the US is no longer interested in funding known terrorists, the PR would look bad. Thanks for the heads up on a tanker invasion. Our subs will be listening & the sinking of tankers at the edge of international waters will make a nice fishing reef. Talk is cheap, bragging by Iran that they learned from their loss of caused by missile miss fires is sad @ best. The loser in all this are the Gazan civilians that Iran is hiding behind. No food, no shelter, no electricity & no future.

 

[Fluff]

no no no

Don't give me this 'Middle East is backward' speech now that you guys have left the region with your tail between your legs, having failed in every military adventure ya'll initiated over here. You and the West represent a dying power; the likes of Iran and China on the other hand are rising powers.

Iran is already the regional superpower. With the United States finally succumbing to Iran's defiance with regards to the upcoming nuclear agreement, Iran's power is going to become global. In the meanwhile, you guys are occupied with Wokism discussions and French/British fishing quota.

Oil runs out, we leave - you seeing any correlation here?

Just because we allow a little flexibility in our society, dosn't mean we are all Frappuccino drinking libtarts. The west took plenty of casualties in the ME, and the enemy took many times more. We had many reasons to be there, which I dont think you are able to understand.

 

[Fluff]

You see.

When I see you guys patting yourself on the back, trying to artificially boost morale and act ya'll are still relevant, I'm not merely rejoicing. It's the tragedy of a has-been power who doesn't realize that he is dying. It's not only that the West has failed in places such as Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Mali, but also the self-destructive nature of the enlightenment philosophy that is now plaguing western societies. Wokism, critical race theory and social justice movements are all products of this moral absolutism and universalism that western liberal thought preaches, but which has now spectacularly backfired because it inadvertently holds one's own past and present actions to light.

So now you guys are embroiled in a endless culture war which is not only dividing your societies, but which is also restraining the West' military conduct on the global stage: no appetite for cold-hearted realpolitik because of past failures and societal pressure (as a result of this moral absolutism); unwilling or unable to accept significant sacrifices because all this abundance of wealth in your societies has led to decadance and a risk-averse mentality that prevents overseas operations and bold moves; a loss of imperial big dick energy and forward-looking courage because of internal squabbling; a loss of spirituality in western societies because of out-of control individualism and capitalism; etc.

The die has been cast and there is no turning back. The West is dying.

In the meanwhile, the likes of Iran and China are absolutely fearless, calculated and strategic.

Fearless - like Lukachenko, sleeps with an AK under the bed?

Iran is 3 meals away from revolution, China maybe 10, if the world hits one big bump and the west unleashes its real toys, you'll be lucky to have time to cry.

 

[Fluff]

Just wanted to say, I'm so pleased, that Maradonious never answers my points......

 

[Connaught Ranger]

The West is dying and China is rising. I have heard that so often from certain circles.

That is a quick death. In the meantime ask yourself on what foundations todays word is built on.

Slightly off topic but with regards China "Rising" check out the vids from these lads -

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[TheKiwi]

Iran is an excellent example of making yourself unconquerable by incompetence. Even Pakistan has done a better job at their nuclear weapons program and they can barely be called a functioning state. Iran can't even supply electricity to its citizens. Anyone looking to conquer Iran would need to take into account that there are no competent patsies they could use to run the place. This is what happens when your diaspora takes all your educated and intelligent citizens out and donates them to other nations.

 

[TheKiwi]

Yes, it does. Developed by female Iranian physician Minoo Mohraz.

COVIran Barekat - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Much success. Great victory.

Of course the BBC graph only shows places that bother to publish data.

 

[BCNTM]

Losing 300 trained men to conduct a SWOT-analysis on Israel's military capabilities and vulnerabilities is nothing in the grand scheme of things. By the way, Iran didn't lose any of its own troops. It managed to acquire critical information on the latest Israeli operational conduct without sacrificing much itself.

The retired Israeli colonel is right. Iran is putting everything in motion for the superbowl of military clashes and this round of conflict was nothing more than its dress-rehearsal.

Iran just needs to concentrate on keeping the lights on...................

What a joke the Venezuela of the Arab world

 

[BCNTM]

Yes, it does. Developed by female Iranian physician Minoo Mohraz.

COVIran Barekat - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tested on goats

 

[BCNTM]

Slightly off topic but with regards China "Rising" check out the vids from these lads -

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You can have 3 kids now as the birth rate has dropped - those bats are not going to eat themselves

 

[Mardonius]

Iran is an excellent example of making yourself unconquerable by incompetence. Even Pakistan has done a better job at their nuclear weapons program and they can barely be called a functioning state. Iran can't even supply electricity to its citizens. Anyone looking to conquer Iran would need to take into account that there are no competent patsies they could use to run the place. This is what happens when your diaspora takes all your educated and intelligent citizens out and donates them to other nations.

What are you talking about? Iran's electricity access is 100%. Moreover, it is the largest producer of research papers in the Middle East, surpassing Israel and Turkey. With 60% of students being female.

Some of you apparently think that Iran is some backwater country. It isn't, despite being the most sanctioned country in the world.

 

[BCNTM]

What are you talking about? Iran's electricity access is 100%. Moreover, it is the largest producer of research papers in the Middle East, surpassing Israel and Turkey. With 60% of students being female.

Some of you apparently think that Iran is some backwater country. It isn't, despite being the most sanctioned country in the world.

But still behind Australia - and as they say its quality not quantity - how to make a rocket from a drainpipe is not high on my list of research

 

[FLYNAVY]

Proposed new prototype for replacement concrete reinforced housing in Gaza proposed in 2019. Solar panels, hot water tanks on the roof, sat coms, safe rooms on the 1st floor, roof top gardens, fire proof. Been trying since 2019 how to get concrete [without gps trackers for tunnels] into Gaza that can't be used for tunnels.....& not sure what that couple on the 4th floor are doing in the middle of the day?

 

[FLYNAVY]

USA's 911 Memorial in Israel

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