Politics Riots in Gaza and Israel

All that proves is that Israel is on it's last gasp of life and has been completely outsmarted by Iran. In other news, Iran has banned cryptocurrency trading until September due to an electricity shortage.
If you can't beat them, join them. If you can't join them, ban them!

I don't see what all this new fangled diddly doos are good fur anyways. Nuttin' a trade involving a sheep or two couldn't buy. If it was good enough for the 7th century it's good enough for them thar folk!
 
Found a good use for one of those Iranian Hoveizeh missiles Hamas sent over. Guess they forgot to put the 'splosives inside. Makes a tasty brisket grill.
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I am sure your response would be different if He did not accuse your beloved Regime of being an Apartheid regime. A description that is shared & agreed by France , many other European , Asian, American & African states.
The truth is exposed today more than any earlier time.
The political success of the Palestinian resistance is huge this time. The right wing Israeli rulers dump policies is deriving their whole project into a complete failure.
Your wording is very telling, if may say so. You are obviously somebody who hates Israel and its people and as such you immediately assume that whoever doesn't subscribe to your viewpoint hook, line and sinker must neccessarily love the state of Israel. Let me tell you something, I don't love the state of Israel and I don't hate them either, all in all I'm pretty neutral, albeit disdainful of Islamists and rather admiring of Israeli ingenuity.

And when it comes to European politicians weighing in on the side of the so-called Palestinians, I could give a toss. Europe's cowardly surrender monkeys are just scared of Islamists and what they might do if they don't get their constant PR-blowjobs, not to mention European tax payer money.
 
Your wording is very telling, if may say so. You are obviously somebody who hates Israel and its people and as such you immediately assume that whoever doesn't subscribe to your viewpoint hook, line and sinker must neccessarily love the state of Israel. Let me tell you something, I don't love the state of Israel and I don't hate them either, all in all I'm pretty neutral, albeit disdainful of Islamists and rather admiring of Israeli ingenuity.

And when it comes to European politicians weighing in on the side of the so-called Palestinians, I could give a toss. Europe's cowardly surrender monkeys are just scared of Islamists and what they might do if they don't get their constant PR-blowjobs, not to mention European tax payer money.

I'm going to quote myself:
Shelata, for those unfamiliar, was our resident Middle Eastern clown from Egypt on MP.net. Think a much, much, less sophisticated version of Mardonius, and you'll get the idea.
Or in other words, you are wasting your time.
 

Gaza as a Military Testing Ground for Iran​


Col. (ret.) Dr. Jacques Neriah

Whoever thinks that the last campaign between Israel and Hamas and the Islamic Jihad was a geographically limited campaign on a limited battlefield is wrong. Upon examining the course of the 11-day war, we cannot help but understand that it was a rehearsal for what is expected on Israel’s northern front. This war in the Gaza Strip was nothing more than a military testing ground for Iran and Hizbullah. They were able to measure Israel’s firepower, its interception capability, and its limitations of power as expressed by the almost irrational care of avoiding harm to population centers. Israel’s concern for innocent lives was borne out of the fear of the world’s reaction and being accused of crimes against humanity, its dependence on the United States, and the drift that undermined Israel’s position in world public opinion, especially among the U.S. Democratic Party, the party of President Joe Biden.

Decision-makers in Israel, as well as politicians, army officers, and academics often repeat a statement attributed to the Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah. He allegedly said after leaving his bunker following the 2006 Second Lebanon War that had he known that his decision to provoke Israel would cause such destruction, he would not have started the war at all. Accordingly, analysists conclude time and again that the lack of Hizbullah’s military action against Israel and its hesitancy to do so in the foreseeable future stems from Israeli deterrence. Accordingly, analysts conclude time and again that the lack of Hizbullah’s military action against Israel and its hesitancy to do so in the foreseeable future stems from Israeli deterrence.

In practice, since 2006, Hizbullah has embarked on an unprecedented reorganization and re-arming effort with Iranian funding and training while accumulating a rocket arsenal of more than 140,000 missiles, some of which with extremely high accuracy. [By contrast, Hamas in Gaza had an estimated 15,000 rockets when it launched its war in May 2014.] Hizbullah analyzed Hamas’ battles against the IDF and will adopt a doctrine of warfare adapted to the new reality. Hizbullah also publicly announced its plan to capture the Galilee by mobilizing its elite units – the Radwan units – for the construction of a network of underground assault tunnels, command bunkers, and an extensive maze of fortifications of which only a fraction was exposed some two years ago on the Lebanese border and subsequently neutralized by the IDF. Hizbullah has developed its drone corps and naval units that are prepared to attack Israel’s gas rigs southwest of Lebanon’s coast. In addition, as Iran’s proxy force in the region, its combat units have gained valuable operational experience in urban warfare following battles in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen, where it was sent to fight by its commanders in Tehran.

All of the above elements have been implemented in the Gaza Strip by Hamas and Islamic Jihad. It is, therefore, no wonder that Iran is behind the Palestinian war effort. Ramez Halabi, a senior member of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, was interviewed on Iraqi television on May 8, 2021. He explained that every weapon in his organization’s possession was purchased with Iranian funding and that all his men were trained in Iran. Mocking Israel, he added that every missile bears the signature of the late Qasem Suleimani. What a wonder that after the fighting subsided, Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, who resides in Qatar, thanked Iran for the financial assistance and weaponry it has extended to Hamas!

From the Palestinian perspective, the war proved that the “Israeli demon” was not as frightening as it used to be. In fact, Israel’s last military victory was in 1982, which eventually resulted in the withdrawal from southern Lebanon in 2000 under Hizbullah’s military pressure. The result of the war in 2006 was seen as Hizbullah’s victory over Israel, while 2014 demonstrated the extent to which Israel refrains from initiating a massive ground entry into the Gaza Strip.

Israel’s policy of divide and rule between Hamas in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority (PA) has boomeranged. The weakening of the PA eventually led to the strengthening of Hamas and its becoming the dominant factor vis-à-vis Israel. Furthermore, Hamas realized that Israel had wrongly assessed – until the last minute – that Hamas lacked interest in a military confrontation and was deterred. This assessment is paired with the constantly reiterated statement that Israel has no interest in a ground attack on Gaza in order to bring down Hamas. Thanks to the “Iron Dome,” the assessment continues, Israel can be satisfied by action against Hamas from outside of Gaza boundaries.

Fear that Inhibits Bold Actions​


However, these statements are rooted in the Palestinian perception inherent to Israel’s weakness: a reluctance to introduce its forces into Gaza for fear of casualties and refusal to control another two million Palestinians. These conclusions are chronicled in Tehran and Hizbullah because the parallel to the situation in Lebanon is self-evident!

It does not bode well for Israel that its weaknesses were apparent not only to the Palestinian public but especially to Hizbullah and Iran, who studied Israel’s behavior during the 11 days of fighting.

The war in Gaza must serve as a very loud wake-up call and cause Israel to rethink its policy toward its enemies in the Arab world. The rising situation requires a drastic change in Israel’s reactions: no more restraint, which is the source of all evil.

Continuing the same policy of restraint and the hesitation to use force may encourage Iran and Hizbullah to continue their plans to surprise Israel on other fronts. This is possible should they conclude that Israel will strive to avoid any frontal confrontation with Hizbullah and a ground incursion that could result in significant casualties by exposing Israel’s homefront to significant attacks.

 

Gaza as a Military Testing Ground for Iran​


Col. (ret.) Dr. Jacques Neriah

Whoever thinks that the last campaign between Israel and Hamas and the Islamic Jihad was a geographically limited campaign on a limited battlefield is wrong. Upon examining the course of the 11-day war, we cannot help but understand that it was a rehearsal for what is expected on Israel’s northern front. This war in the Gaza Strip was nothing more than a military testing ground for Iran and Hizbullah. They were able to measure Israel’s firepower, its interception capability, and its limitations of power as expressed by the almost irrational care of avoiding harm to population centers. Israel’s concern for innocent lives was borne out of the fear of the world’s reaction and being accused of crimes against humanity, its dependence on the United States, and the drift that undermined Israel’s position in world public opinion, especially among the U.S. Democratic Party, the party of President Joe Biden.

Decision-makers in Israel, as well as politicians, army officers, and academics often repeat a statement attributed to the Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah. He allegedly said after leaving his bunker following the 2006 Second Lebanon War that had he known that his decision to provoke Israel would cause such destruction, he would not have started the war at all. Accordingly, analysists conclude time and again that the lack of Hizbullah’s military action against Israel and its hesitancy to do so in the foreseeable future stems from Israeli deterrence. Accordingly, analysts conclude time and again that the lack of Hizbullah’s military action against Israel and its hesitancy to do so in the foreseeable future stems from Israeli deterrence.

In practice, since 2006, Hizbullah has embarked on an unprecedented reorganization and re-arming effort with Iranian funding and training while accumulating a rocket arsenal of more than 140,000 missiles, some of which with extremely high accuracy. [By contrast, Hamas in Gaza had an estimated 15,000 rockets when it launched its war in May 2014.] Hizbullah analyzed Hamas’ battles against the IDF and will adopt a doctrine of warfare adapted to the new reality. Hizbullah also publicly announced its plan to capture the Galilee by mobilizing its elite units – the Radwan units – for the construction of a network of underground assault tunnels, command bunkers, and an extensive maze of fortifications of which only a fraction was exposed some two years ago on the Lebanese border and subsequently neutralized by the IDF. Hizbullah has developed its drone corps and naval units that are prepared to attack Israel’s gas rigs southwest of Lebanon’s coast. In addition, as Iran’s proxy force in the region, its combat units have gained valuable operational experience in urban warfare following battles in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen, where it was sent to fight by its commanders in Tehran.

All of the above elements have been implemented in the Gaza Strip by Hamas and Islamic Jihad. It is, therefore, no wonder that Iran is behind the Palestinian war effort. Ramez Halabi, a senior member of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, was interviewed on Iraqi television on May 8, 2021. He explained that every weapon in his organization’s possession was purchased with Iranian funding and that all his men were trained in Iran. Mocking Israel, he added that every missile bears the signature of the late Qasem Suleimani. What a wonder that after the fighting subsided, Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, who resides in Qatar, thanked Iran for the financial assistance and weaponry it has extended to Hamas!

From the Palestinian perspective, the war proved that the “Israeli demon” was not as frightening as it used to be. In fact, Israel’s last military victory was in 1982, which eventually resulted in the withdrawal from southern Lebanon in 2000 under Hizbullah’s military pressure. The result of the war in 2006 was seen as Hizbullah’s victory over Israel, while 2014 demonstrated the extent to which Israel refrains from initiating a massive ground entry into the Gaza Strip.

Israel’s policy of divide and rule between Hamas in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority (PA) has boomeranged. The weakening of the PA eventually led to the strengthening of Hamas and its becoming the dominant factor vis-à-vis Israel. Furthermore, Hamas realized that Israel had wrongly assessed – until the last minute – that Hamas lacked interest in a military confrontation and was deterred. This assessment is paired with the constantly reiterated statement that Israel has no interest in a ground attack on Gaza in order to bring down Hamas. Thanks to the “Iron Dome,” the assessment continues, Israel can be satisfied by action against Hamas from outside of Gaza boundaries.

Fear that Inhibits Bold Actions​


However, these statements are rooted in the Palestinian perception inherent to Israel’s weakness: a reluctance to introduce its forces into Gaza for fear of casualties and refusal to control another two million Palestinians. These conclusions are chronicled in Tehran and Hizbullah because the parallel to the situation in Lebanon is self-evident!

It does not bode well for Israel that its weaknesses were apparent not only to the Palestinian public but especially to Hizbullah and Iran, who studied Israel’s behavior during the 11 days of fighting.

The war in Gaza must serve as a very loud wake-up call and cause Israel to rethink its policy toward its enemies in the Arab world. The rising situation requires a drastic change in Israel’s reactions: no more restraint, which is the source of all evil.

Continuing the same policy of restraint and the hesitation to use force may encourage Iran and Hizbullah to continue their plans to surprise Israel on other fronts. This is possible should they conclude that Israel will strive to avoid any frontal confrontation with Hizbullah and a ground incursion that could result in significant casualties by exposing Israel’s homefront to significant attacks.

We lost 300 trained men - yes we are just testing the israelis....

Great to die in a test.
 
We lost 300 trained men - yes we are just testing the israelis....

Great to die in a test.

Losing 300 trained men to conduct a SWOT-analysis on Israel's military capabilities and vulnerabilities is nothing in the grand scheme of things. By the way, Iran didn't lose any of its own troops. It managed to acquire critical information on the latest Israeli operational conduct without sacrificing much itself.

The retired Israeli colonel is right. Iran is putting everything in motion for the superbowl of military clashes and this round of conflict was nothing more than its dress-rehearsal.
 
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Losing 300 trained men to conduct a SWOT-analyse on Israel's military capabilities and vulnerabilities is nothing in the grand scheme of things. By the way, Iran didn't lose any of its own troops. It managed to acquire critical information on the latest Israeli operational conduct without sacrificing much itself.

The retired Israeli colonel is right.
So you continue to play the Palestinians as suckers.

Also Isreal didnt show you anything, that wasnt already known. Iron Dome is known, Arty and airstrikes on launch positions.

Iran doesnt have any way to put aircraft over Israel, vice versa Israel has full freedom to do the opposite, and has shown this.

Iran is literally playing with fire. Hows the drone factory that burst into flames going?
 
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Try to read in-depth articles in stead of the dailymirror.
 

Gaza as a Military Testing Ground for Iran​


Col. (ret.) Dr. Jacques Neriah

Whoever thinks that the last campaign between Israel and Hamas and the Islamic Jihad was a geographically limited campaign on a limited battlefield is wrong. Upon examining the course of the 11-day war, we cannot help but understand that it was a rehearsal for what is expected on Israel’s northern front. This war in the Gaza Strip was nothing more than a military testing ground for Iran and Hizbullah. They were able to measure Israel’s firepower, its interception capability, and its limitations of power as expressed by the almost irrational care of avoiding harm to population centers. Israel’s concern for innocent lives was borne out of the fear of the world’s reaction and being accused of crimes against humanity, its dependence on the United States, and the drift that undermined Israel’s position in world public opinion, especially among the U.S. Democratic Party, the party of President Joe Biden.

Decision-makers in Israel, as well as politicians, army officers, and academics often repeat a statement attributed to the Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah. He allegedly said after leaving his bunker following the 2006 Second Lebanon War that had he known that his decision to provoke Israel would cause such destruction, he would not have started the war at all. Accordingly, analysists conclude time and again that the lack of Hizbullah’s military action against Israel and its hesitancy to do so in the foreseeable future stems from Israeli deterrence. Accordingly, analysts conclude time and again that the lack of Hizbullah’s military action against Israel and its hesitancy to do so in the foreseeable future stems from Israeli deterrence.

In practice, since 2006, Hizbullah has embarked on an unprecedented reorganization and re-arming effort with Iranian funding and training while accumulating a rocket arsenal of more than 140,000 missiles, some of which with extremely high accuracy. [By contrast, Hamas in Gaza had an estimated 15,000 rockets when it launched its war in May 2014.] Hizbullah analyzed Hamas’ battles against the IDF and will adopt a doctrine of warfare adapted to the new reality. Hizbullah also publicly announced its plan to capture the Galilee by mobilizing its elite units – the Radwan units – for the construction of a network of underground assault tunnels, command bunkers, and an extensive maze of fortifications of which only a fraction was exposed some two years ago on the Lebanese border and subsequently neutralized by the IDF. Hizbullah has developed its drone corps and naval units that are prepared to attack Israel’s gas rigs southwest of Lebanon’s coast. In addition, as Iran’s proxy force in the region, its combat units have gained valuable operational experience in urban warfare following battles in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen, where it was sent to fight by its commanders in Tehran.

All of the above elements have been implemented in the Gaza Strip by Hamas and Islamic Jihad. It is, therefore, no wonder that Iran is behind the Palestinian war effort. Ramez Halabi, a senior member of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, was interviewed on Iraqi television on May 8, 2021. He explained that every weapon in his organization’s possession was purchased with Iranian funding and that all his men were trained in Iran. Mocking Israel, he added that every missile bears the signature of the late Qasem Suleimani. What a wonder that after the fighting subsided, Hamas leader, Ismail Haniyeh, who resides in Qatar, thanked Iran for the financial assistance and weaponry it has extended to Hamas!

From the Palestinian perspective, the war proved that the “Israeli demon” was not as frightening as it used to be. In fact, Israel’s last military victory was in 1982, which eventually resulted in the withdrawal from southern Lebanon in 2000 under Hizbullah’s military pressure. The result of the war in 2006 was seen as Hizbullah’s victory over Israel, while 2014 demonstrated the extent to which Israel refrains from initiating a massive ground entry into the Gaza Strip.

Israel’s policy of divide and rule between Hamas in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority (PA) has boomeranged. The weakening of the PA eventually led to the strengthening of Hamas and its becoming the dominant factor vis-à-vis Israel. Furthermore, Hamas realized that Israel had wrongly assessed – until the last minute – that Hamas lacked interest in a military confrontation and was deterred. This assessment is paired with the constantly reiterated statement that Israel has no interest in a ground attack on Gaza in order to bring down Hamas. Thanks to the “Iron Dome,” the assessment continues, Israel can be satisfied by action against Hamas from outside of Gaza boundaries.

Fear that Inhibits Bold Actions​


However, these statements are rooted in the Palestinian perception inherent to Israel’s weakness: a reluctance to introduce its forces into Gaza for fear of casualties and refusal to control another two million Palestinians. These conclusions are chronicled in Tehran and Hizbullah because the parallel to the situation in Lebanon is self-evident!

It does not bode well for Israel that its weaknesses were apparent not only to the Palestinian public but especially to Hizbullah and Iran, who studied Israel’s behavior during the 11 days of fighting.

The war in Gaza must serve as a very loud wake-up call and cause Israel to rethink its policy toward its enemies in the Arab world. The rising situation requires a drastic change in Israel’s reactions: no more restraint, which is the source of all evil.

Continuing the same policy of restraint and the hesitation to use force may encourage Iran and Hizbullah to continue their plans to surprise Israel on other fronts. This is possible should they conclude that Israel will strive to avoid any frontal confrontation with Hizbullah and a ground incursion that could result in significant casualties by exposing Israel’s homefront to significant attacks.

My observation is that Hezbollah, along with it's Iranian masters had better tread lightly when it comes to the Lebanon. The Lebanese have had enough. The Beirut explosion, which took out a big chunk of the city last year and killed hundreds, wounded thousands and left 300,000 homeless, thanks to Hezbollah/Iran incompetence, was the last straw for many Lebanese.

Regarding Gaza, Iran is not bothered by how many Palestinians need to die, in order to gain knowledge in a "Military Testing Ground". And if the Palestinians can't wake up from being Iran's stooges, then they will always have nothing.
 
My observation is that Hezbollah, along with it's Iranian masters had better tread lightly when it comes to the Lebanon. The Lebanese have had enough. The Beirut explosion, which took out a big chunk of the city last year and killed hundreds, wounded thousands and left 300,000 homeless, thanks to Hezbollah/Iran incompetence, was the last straw for many Lebanese.

You are wrong. That explosion in Beirut had nothing to do with Iran or Hezbollah, but exemplified Lebanese incompetence in general. If you think that the failed state of Lebanon would ever pose a treat to Iran's strategic interests...you are mistaken.

Regarding Gaza, Iran is not bothered by how many Palestinians need to die, in order to gain knowledge in a "Military Testing Ground". And if the Palestinians can't wake up from being Iran's stooges, then they will always have nothing.

It's a win-win situation for both sides.
 
My observation is that Hezbollah, along with it's Iranian masters had better tread lightly when it comes to the Lebanon. The Lebanese have had enough. The Beirut explosion, which took out a big chunk of the city last year and killed hundreds, wounded thousands and left 300,000 homeless, thanks to Hezbollah/Iran incompetence, was the last straw for many Lebanese.

Regarding Gaza, Iran is not bothered by how many Palestinians need to die, in order to gain knowledge in a "Military Testing Ground". And if the Palestinians can't wake up from being Iran's stooges, then they will always have nothing.

Iran, Palestine, Hamas and Hezbollah know they cannot achieve anything by themselves (militarily speaking).

Their main tool, and advantage, is propaganda in order to influence foreign countries and incite them to sanction Israel.
By using their own people as disposable assets, and exploiting their suffering, they assure themselves with a limitless emotion-driven-tear-jerking-machine. Their "manufactured" suffering is their strength.
 
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Try to read in-depth articles in stead of the dailymirror.
Only if you stop reading from the Tehran propaganda mouthpiece?

You have no idea outside of Iran stronk ra ra.

Iran is a backwater, and as oil runs down, the ME can as far as the G20 is concerned, go back to slaughtering its own people as it likes.
 
I mean, if Iran hates Israel so much, why not but 20 old supertankers, and sail there, and invade?

Iran can hate israel, because its safe to do so, its far enough away that a full war would be difficult. Iran did so well on its last local war, 8 years of stalemate with Iraq.
 
Only if you stop reading from the Tehran propaganda mouthpiece?

You have no idea outside of Iran stronk ra ra.

Iran is a backwater, and as oil runs down, the ME can as far as the G20 is concerned, go back to slaughtering its own people as it likes.

no no no

Don't give me this 'Middle East is backward' speech now that you guys have left the region with your tail between your legs, having failed in every military adventure ya'll initiated over here. You and the West represent a dying power; the likes of Iran and China on the other hand are rising powers.

Iran is already the regional superpower. With the United States finally succumbing to Iran's defiance with regards to the upcoming nuclear agreement, Iran's power is going to become global. In the meanwhile, you guys are occupied with Wokism discussions and French/British fishing quota.
 
You are wrong. That explosion in Beirut had nothing to do with Iran or Hezbollah, but exemplified Lebanese incompetence in general. If you think that the failed state of Lebanon would ever pose a treat to Iran's strategic interests...you are mistaken.



It's a win-win situation for both sides.
Really? Who controls the port in Beirut? The Lebanese people aren't as stupid as you might think. Your statement illustrates your arrogance and how little you think of them.

Win-win? Well one of those wins was for Israel. The other? Certainly not the Palestinian people who are literally nothing more than meaningless pawns for Iran.
 
Really? Who controls the port in Beirut? The Lebanese people aren't as stupid as you might think. Your statement illustrates your arrogance and how little you think of them.

Propaganda.

Win-win? Well one of those wins was for Israel. The other? Certainly not the Palestinian people who are literally nothing more than meaningless pawns for Iran.

Israel hasn't a won a war since 1982. What are you talking about?
 
Propaganda.



Israel hasn't a won a war since 1982. What are you talking about?
You see, the double edged sword of propaganda is, the propagandist starts to believe his own propaganda and becomes unlinked to reality.
 

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