Politics Protests in Belarus

[Musashi]

No, people of Belarus changed it by national referendum in 1995.

That white and red flag used by protestors was used for only a few years in entire history of Belarus in periods of occupation/influence by foreign (western) countries (1918, 1942-1944, 1991-1995). The flag of traitors and collaborationists.

Who were the collaborationists and traitors? As far as I know, Belarusians became independent after the WW1, but their country was split between Poland and the Soviet Union after the Polish-Soviet War.

Belarusian Democratic Republic - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If somebody wants to be independent, do you call him a traitor?

 

[BCNTM]

Rally in Mogilev, plenty of Belarusian flags.
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no covid there then....... apart from the woman in the red top

 

[morris]

Who were the collaborationists and traitors? As far as I know, Belarusians became independent after the WW1, but their country was split between Poland and the Soviet Union after the Polish-Soviet War.

Belarusian Democratic Republic - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If somebody wants to be independent, do you call him a traitor?

From your link:
White Ruthenian Democratic Republic, was a failed attempt to create a Belarusian state on the territory controlled by the German Imperial Army during World War I. The BNR existed from 1918 to 1919.

 

[morris]

no covid there then....... apart from the woman in the red top

Opposition was crying about covid but did the same.

 

[Musashi]

no covid there then....... apart from the woman in the red top

Lukashenko claimed multiple times that there is no COVID-19 in Belarus until he caught it himself.

 

[1645556315]

If somebody wants to be independent, do you call him a traitor?

You must educate yourself about what word Independent means. Surely not be part of German Reich and lost about 25% population under this flag.

Also i know you fully aware of Polish-Lithuanian origin of the flag.

 

[Musashi]

You must educate yourself about what word Independent means. Surely not be part of German Reich and lost about 25% population under this flag.

1918 has nothing to do with Nazism, etc. If you are tired of your master, you try different tricks to become independent.

Also i know you fully aware of Polish-Lithuanian origin of the flag.

It was chosen as a state flag. It was replaced after a BS "referendum" that was a typical Soviet-style referendum (as the Soviets used to say: "it's unimportant how people vote, it's just important who counts their votes").
The only fair elections involving Lukashenko was his the first term as a president. All opposition figures agree on that. He started off with some populist BS about curbing corruption and tricked people into thinking that he would be an honest man.

 

[morris]

1918 has nothing to do with Nazism, etc. If you are tired of your master, you try different tricks to become independent.

It was chosen as a state flag. It was replaced after a BS "referendum" that was a typical Soviet-style referendum (as the Soviets used to say: "it's unimportant how people vote, it's just important who counts their votes").
The only fair elections involving Lukashenko was his the first term as a president. All opposition figures agree on that. He started off with some populist BS about curbing corruption and tricked people into thinking that he would be an honest man.

So the treacherous tricksters went 1984 even before 1948 and pretended that slavery is freedom even with the red white colours. No wonder they didn't last then and now.

 

[Musashi]

Rally in Mogilev, plenty of Belarusian flags.
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These numbers do not match and these people are not protesting "mostly in Poland" by any means.
So many collaborationists and traitors?

 

[morris]

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These numbers do not match and these people are not protesting "mostly in Poland" by any means.
So many collaborationists and traitors?

So where are they now after change of the wind?

 

[1645556315]

It was chosen as a state flag.

Chosen by whom? There was another (proper, democratic, Poland-approved) referendum?

You support this traitors' flag only because that protestors are anti-russian and Polish/Lithuanian supported.

So many collaborationists and traitors?

Mostly usefull idiots. Like on Maidans in Ukraine.

 

[berkut76]

Who were the collaborationists and traitors? As far as I know, Belarusians became independent after the WW1, but their country was split between Poland and the Soviet Union after the Polish-Soviet War.

Belarusian Democratic Republic - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If somebody wants to be independent, do you call him a traitor?

If they want to challenge the West, than they are freedom fighters, if they want to challenge Russia, NAZI, NAZIS everywhere.

 

[berkut76]

First sign that there is a Pro-Lukashenko rally is town:

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He drag them from town to town to prove that his 80% are legit everywhere.


More pictures:

And old video, still absolutely relevant (english subtitles are in the settings):

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Typical "soviet faces" and rolling caravans. I've seen the videos, they are even being taught how to chant and what to chant. Nothing new.

 

[Musashi]

If they want to challenge the West, than they are freedom fighters, if they want to challenge Russia, NAZI, NAZIS everywhere.

The thing is, there's no evidence that they want to challenge Russia.

 

[morris]

If they want to challenge the West, than they are freedom fighters, if they want to challenge Russia, NAZI, NAZIS everywhere.

Actually most of protesters are just useful idiots while organizers seat in Warsaw not putting their own butts in any danger.

 

[berkut76]

The thing is, there's no evidence that they want to challenge Russia.

Russians had no time to develop a new playbook, so you see references harking back to WWII with the Soviet combat banners because everyone knows that the Soviet triumph over Nazis is the greatest even in modern Russia (post-1991) history.

 

[Musashi]

Chosen by whom? There was another (proper, democratic, Poland-approved) referendum?

You support this traitors' flag only because that protestors are anti-russian and Polish/Lithuanian supported.



Mostly usefull idiots. Like on Maidans in Ukraine.

Man, I wish I could see some consistency and logic in your posts, but I fail to see that.
Here we go again....
First of all, Lukashenko's campaign revolved around trolling Russia and monsieur Putain. Since it was openly admitted by you (well, sometimes we agree on something, so I can find some common ground with you occasionally). what made Lukashenko pro-Russian out of the blue? He detained the Wagner contractors and started broadcasting some sh1t about monsieur Putain sending his cronies in order to disturb peace in Belarus. All state-controlled TV channels were broadcasting that.
The most pro-Russian opposition candidate was Babaryka and he had a big chance to beat Luka:

Viktar Babaryka - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He is said to be monsieur Putain's man and demanded a speedy integration with Russia. He is far more pro-Russian than Lukashenko but, unfortunately, he was jailed. Accusing Poland of supporting a pro-Russian candidate, Babaryka, is plainly insane.
On the other hand, Lukashenko's recent policy was to hold his ground and don't bend to Russian demands. He said he can be the only guarantor of Belarus' independence and did not wish any close integration. He was just playing games with monsieur Putain in order to get cheap oil and gas.
What is your evidence for these protesters being anti-Russian? Did you confuse Belarus with Ukraine? I have not seen any EU or NATO flags during the demonstrations, 80% of participants speak Russian as their mother language and don't demand Russian to be banned or downgraded in their country.
Do you have any videos with protesters chanting anti-Russian slogans? Please post some. Any videos with burned Russian flags or slogans "who does not jump is a Moscovite" would be more than welcome.

If you don't find any, I'll take your post as nothing more than trolling and talking out of your ass.

 

[morris]

Typical "soviet faces"

Look like normal ordinary people

The thing is, there's no evidence that they want to challenge Russia.

I have posted the video evidence of so called opposition already.

 

[morris]

I'll take your post as nothing more than trolling and talking out of your ass.

The troll crys "trolling" out of your ass again

 

[Musashi]

The troll crys "trolling" out of your ass again

What is "crys"? A word in Australian English I'm unfamiliar with?