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[Hiryu2.0]

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Trump official admits US workers won’t get jobs in factories spurred by tariffs

Howard Lutnick suggests robotics are the future

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Chazman]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/07/peter-navarro-says-vietnams-0percent-tariff-offer-is-not-enough-its-the-non-tariff-cheating-that-matters.html

 

[Chazman]

Trump official admits US workers won’t get jobs in factories spurred by tariffs

Howard Lutnick suggests robotics are the future

www.independent.co.uk

As you may be aware, Margaret is your kindred spirit. She hates Trump and I'm pretty sure she hates America and the American people, certainly the non-elite people. Factories will continue to be automated, OBVIOUSLY.

I'm not sure what her point was. Perhaps she had no point, which is not surprising for her.

 

[Chazman]

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[Chazman]

It's a start.

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[Chazman]

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[Junglejim]

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I just read that... looking at China's stance it wont back down. Hope your family is not into agriculture, Chaz... S**t's about to get real.

 

[Chazman]

I just read that... looking at China's stance it wont back down. Hope your family is not into agriculture, Chaz... S**t's about to get real.

It's real alright.

Wondering if Xi survives this. I don't necessarily want to see him "disappeared", since we have no idea what will replace him. His main enforcer, General Whathisname, has disappeared, and rumors are Xi's rivals are responsible.

 

[Junglejim]

It's real alright.

Wondering if Xi survives this. I don't necessarily want to see him "disappeared", since we have no idea what will replace him. His main enforcer, General Whathisname, has disappeared, and rumors are Xi's rivals are responsible.

He would survive, different systems. The Chinese will see this as America attacking them. Im more concerned if the Us agriculture would survive, they have been living of the Chinese markets and subsidies, its gonna bite them in the as really quick.

 

[Chazman]

He would survive, different systems. The Chinese will see this as America attacking them. Im more concerned if the Us agriculture would survive, they have been living of the Chinese markets and subsidies, its gonna bite them in the as really quick.

US Ag will be fine. They were last time China specifically targeted them. Maybe more than fine at 104% tariffs.

 

[Junglejim]

US Ag will be fine. They were last time China specifically targeted them. Maybe more than fine at 104% tariffs.

They werent fine the last time, the agricultural bail out last time by the previous Trump admin when it went toe to toe with Cina was almost $2 billion.

 

[Musashi]

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[Chazman]

They werent fine the last time, the agricultural bail out last time by the previous Trump admin when it went toe to toe with Cina was almost $2 billion.

IIRC, the bail out was much more, all paid from tariffs on Chinese products. We'll see if the Chinese back down, I expect they will. They certainly can't afford to stop selling to the US - not for long, anyway. If they stick with 104%, China will eat most of that, like they did last time. They are at a disadvantage. Everyone knows it, especially China.

As I mentioned previously, negotiations will encompass more than just tariffs. Much to discuss.

 

[Junglejim]

IIRC, the bail out was much more, all paid from tariffs on Chinese products. We'll see if the Chinese back down, I expect they will. They certainly can't afford to stop selling to the US - not for long, anyway. If they stick with 104%, China will eat most of that, like they did last time. They are at a disadvantage. Everyone knows it, especially China.

As I mentioned previously, negotiations will encompass more than just tariffs. Much to discuss.

I agree, that it will hurt China. However the US is doing a trade war with the rest of the world, this gives China an opportunity and an out. They can start looking at other markets and shore support for better and more trade. Why I think China will fight it out, is due to the fact that they know the biggest hit will be US consumer and farmers as well as laborers.... Trump's main supporters. So it can bite the bullet and help push Trump and the republicans out in the next elections.

Had the US focused on China and used China as an example, it would have been a good job by Trump. but instead he went with a nuclear plan for Trade.

 

[primer]

You do realise that Biden kept all of Trumps tariffs, actually Bernie's a fan

Bernie Sanders: Free trade without tariffs will destroy American manufacturing.

The free trade world died. You'll see. The Singaporean PM gets it.

 

[haze99]

US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick reveals 50 nations reached out to negotiate tariffs, warns ‘there is no postponing’

Howard Lutnick said the calls from foreign officials prove that “these countries know that they’ve been ripping us off,” suggesting there was no room for negotiations.

nypost.com

 

[Mike1976]

I agree, that it will hurt China. However the US is doing a trade war with the rest of the world, this gives China an opportunity and an out. They can start looking at other markets and shore support for better and more trade. Why I think China will fight it out, is due to the fact that they know the biggest hit will be US consumer and farmers as well as laborers.... Trump's main supporters. So it can bite the bullet and help push Trump and the republicans out in the next elections.

Had the US focused on China and used China as an example, it would have been a good job by Trump. but instead he went with a nuclear plan for Trade.

Trump's only got two years until the mid-terms in which he needs to drastically deliver. That's why I see this hyper-offensive approach as the ultimate gamble. Either it miraculously pays off by increasing income and/or lowered prices and he at a minimum retains the current balance in Congress and unless the Republicans nominate a complete ret@rd buys himself another four years of freedom after his term or it fails spectacularly, leading to a slaughter in the mid-terms, a comfortable run for the Democratic nominee and he dies in prison.

There are no alternatives imo, this is his nuclear option. Quite similar to the only option in Ukraine being something that can be sold as a victory and anything less meaning death for Putin.