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Apparently Bolton was in favor of a Libyan solution for North Korea.
Considering how Libya turned out, I really can't see how anybody would even consider the mere concept of a "Libyan Solution" to begin with.
Considering how Libya turned out, I really can't see how anybody would even consider the mere concept of a "Libyan Solution" to begin with.
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The concept is OK as long as you erase the word "solution" and replace it with a word starting with the same letter.
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The Comedy value is off the scale ..
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If you think either of the two side comes off looking good here, you're wrong. The Democrats waste time and tax payer money, but all which the representatives from both parties say and do is not meant to achieve anything substantial anyway – it's just done to signal activity and virtue to their respective side and their base.
Charades like this have made me long since question the wisdom behind the Western model and kept me wondering if there's some way to increase the political distance between the government and the parliament. Parliaments are, unfortunately, pretty much worthless if one side only busies itself with campaigning against the government and the other refuses to do its job of controlling the government.
Charades like this have made me long since question the wisdom behind the Western model and kept me wondering if there's some way to increase the political distance between the government and the parliament. Parliaments are, unfortunately, pretty much worthless if one side only busies itself with campaigning against the government and the other refuses to do its job of controlling the government.
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Corey is a LEGEND
Trump was at the border. That is alot of US steel.
www.wbur.org
Trump Sees Border Wall As Another Boost For U.S. Steel Industry
President Trump says a country is nothing without a steel industry. And while his tariffs have benefited the U.S. steel industry, his claims about a boom with new plants opening are exaggerated.
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There is being a lot of noise about a "whistleblower" from the "intelligence community", "whistleblowing" about Trump talking with a foreign leader.
Obviously, MSM and a few officials, such as Clapper, jumped on the story to condemn Trump and his mishandling and abuse of power, threatening the very foundations of the country, and we are all going to die, oh god the humanity, etc...
Apparently it was to ask Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son, as well as a possible case of corruption involving the two.
Obviously, MSM and a few officials, such as Clapper, jumped on the story to condemn Trump and his mishandling and abuse of power, threatening the very foundations of the country, and we are all going to die, oh god the humanity, etc...
Apparently it was to ask Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son, as well as a possible case of corruption involving the two.
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Yeah, well, the Senate isn't going to stand for an impeachment either way, but if Trump were to be impeached over the transcipt that's been released today it'd be his own fault. Total and utter lack of situational awareness. He did indeed ask a foreign head of state to launch investigations into the business affairs of the son of his most senior political challenger.
If that's what he thinks has always been necessary, he should have done it right away after taking office in order to avoid a clear and present conflict of interests.
The funny part is that what Biden did back in the day was not to lobby for the protection of his son's employer – he actually asked the Ukranians to ditch a prosecutor who tried to stymy corruption investigations into his son's employer.
Now, it's impossible for us to assess whether or not his son was somehow given an advantage here (e.g. a career advantage). On the other hand, it's quite possible that Biden junior simply went to his father a whistleblower and went like: Dad, I saw those guys break the law but no one wants to listen to me, what should I do?
I tried to be as impartial as I possibly could, but the fact as I see it is this: If you're in agreement with what Trump did, you're in agreement with a degree of corruption that actually befits Ukraine better than it does the United States. If that's what you're contented with, well, I admire your thick skin. But I find it perfectly plausible that even a hypothetical objective observer would find Trump at fault here.
At any rate, this is a futile offensive that isn't going to break the stalemate of trench warfare. Trump's followers are never going to accept the impeachement, and they cannot. Much like in actual trench warfare, too much blood has been spilled. And they've not forgotten (nor should they) highly immoral and probably illegal schemes like Obama's IRS campaign against right-wing groups.
Whataboutisms. Modern politics has become all about whataboutisms.
If that's what he thinks has always been necessary, he should have done it right away after taking office in order to avoid a clear and present conflict of interests.
The funny part is that what Biden did back in the day was not to lobby for the protection of his son's employer – he actually asked the Ukranians to ditch a prosecutor who tried to stymy corruption investigations into his son's employer.
Now, it's impossible for us to assess whether or not his son was somehow given an advantage here (e.g. a career advantage). On the other hand, it's quite possible that Biden junior simply went to his father a whistleblower and went like: Dad, I saw those guys break the law but no one wants to listen to me, what should I do?
I tried to be as impartial as I possibly could, but the fact as I see it is this: If you're in agreement with what Trump did, you're in agreement with a degree of corruption that actually befits Ukraine better than it does the United States. If that's what you're contented with, well, I admire your thick skin. But I find it perfectly plausible that even a hypothetical objective observer would find Trump at fault here.
At any rate, this is a futile offensive that isn't going to break the stalemate of trench warfare. Trump's followers are never going to accept the impeachement, and they cannot. Much like in actual trench warfare, too much blood has been spilled. And they've not forgotten (nor should they) highly immoral and probably illegal schemes like Obama's IRS campaign against right-wing groups.
Whataboutisms. Modern politics has become all about whataboutisms.
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GOP Primary Challenger Weld Floats Death Penalty for Trump Over Ukraine 'Treason'
Weld suggested Monday that the president had committed treason -- and mentioned the death penalty as the 'only penalty' for that crime.
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Like... what the F***?!
If "what" Trump "did" over Ukraine, which, in the end, frankly amounts to nothing, requires the death penalty then I don't want to know what will happen to: Hillary over the Steele Dossier (among other things), Obama (and the Iran nuclear deal), Biden (Ukraine, again), Holder (fast and furious), Beto and Castro (currently campaigning and holding rallies outside of the US), Omar and Tlaib (for their strong sympathies toward terrorist groups), W. Bush (Iraq), etc...
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He's bringing himself up for discussion in the most despicable of ways, that's all.
If anything, Trump's violated the principles of decency and good governance. Perhaps he deserves to be removed from office for it. But the idea that his actions amounted to treason is quite preposterous. What Trump's done and freely admitted to have done does not threaten the state or its constitution in the slightest.
If anything, Trump's violated the principles of decency and good governance. Perhaps he deserves to be removed from office for it. But the idea that his actions amounted to treason is quite preposterous. What Trump's done and freely admitted to have done does not threaten the state or its constitution in the slightest.
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Schiff questioned if the transcript was real! FFS!
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Did what? Damage the constitution of the state? How. He might have violated the constitution, but that pertains to any abuse of power for personal gains – even those that do not attract the label of "treason".
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