Politics The EU is killing Europe

[muck]

Maybe you don't remember, but the refugee crisis was already well underway in 2015 when Merkel opened Germany's borders and had that infamous selfie taken with an asylum seeker.

The numbers had been steadily increasing since 2012. So, no, she didn't order it; the truth is much more mundane (and frightening at the same time). She was merely incompetent and ignored the warnings of her own minister of the interior. Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

As an aside, we also have to thank the "Coalition of the Willing" for the past ten years. Without "Iraqi Freedom", there would've never been an Al Quaeda in Iraq; which in turn would've never morphed into the Islamic State; which in turn would've never prompted one of the biggest refugee waves since the Second World War. It's somewhat ironic the American right is so deeply invested in the refugee crisis, considering their erstwhile approval of that useless war.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

No offence to you, but that's an argument that's always puzzled me. Surely, the EU can't be too overbearing and too passive at the same time?

One can lead to another.

Same thing happens in society through passive acceptance. Slowly but surely what was the exception becomes the norm, and then the rule. Once it got accepted, you can more easily implement laws and legal framework to cement whatever you are trying to put in place.

The concept of influence applies to many fields and to many time frames.

It is social engineering, simple as that.


As for it being the law, well, yes, it is the law. But does one must abide by the law if it means certain death? (to put it in a mildly prosaic way)

 

[Musashi]

Well, that's because they violated the Dublin Agreement.

That's because the Polish government at the time announced its intention to conduct pushbacks, which are illegal. A legal alternative would've been detaining arrivals for the time of their being processed into the system.

It's not a viable alternative. These illegals would eventually get to your country anyway. We placed them in open refugee centres and they were fvcking off like no tomorrow. If we placed them in closed refugee centres, we could not keep them there forever. Let's say, a "refugee" from Iraq or Syria was placed in such a centre and their governments did not want to take them back. Then, activists were engaging MPs and lawyers to release these Third-Worlders, saying these refugee centres are "prisons" and there were no grounds to keep the illegals there for more than a few months. Eventually. they were released and ended up fleeing to Germany.
The legal procedure is pretty idiotic and gives right-wing parties new voters, exactly the way it happens in Germany.
Let's say, the UK spends £7 million on illegals every day. Poland is not so rich and we cannot afford it. When some idiots were writing the Dublin Agreement, they did not predict that somebody could start a hybrid war against Poland and flood us with illegals, opening an artificial migrant route. Nobody thought about what to do with the illegals who could not be deported either.

 

[Musashi]

BTW
A refugee centre in Poland referred to as a "prison" by far-left activists:

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This deportation centre was built in Eisenhüttenstadt, right on the Polish border:

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Polish right-wing channels brought it up just before the presidential elections in Poland, which are tomorrow.

 

[haze99]

Yep, I recall...back around 2006 or 2007 on the now defunct militaryphotos.net website. Thare were some malcontents then, that said this was NOT happening. (muslim. No-Go Zones in Paris) And the articles or reports of such were "tin foil hattery"...

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Ivan, Token White Guy & Riderboy, to a name a few, are vindicated. Not that they wanted this to happen. (far from it it)

 

[Ivan le Fou]

The question I am having now is: were things less worse, as bad, or worse than they are today.

Obviously, there were no-go zones. Wether explicitly or implicitly, there were neighborhoods you wouldn't go to either as a local or as a tourist. Just like there are neighborhoods you avoid in every country, because they are not safe, but also because there is no point in being there if it isn't the place you live in.

Will you get mugged, assaulted, harassed, etc... maybe, maybe not.
Are you more likely to get mugged, assaulted, harassed, etc... in popular and touristic areas? That's open to debate.

Anyway, are things worse because they are actually, and verifiably, worse? Or do we get the perception they are worse simply because we are looking at them more than we used to.

 

[muck]

I can only answer that question for Germany: Yes and no. The highest number of crimes in this country was recorded in 1993. It's gone steadily down since then, with a few outliers here and there. However, crime rates have been rising again since 2021 across all strata of society, and certain kinds of crime (molestation, assault with a bladed weapon, petty theft, drug-related offences) have gone up sharpish. I guess, you could summarise the situation like this: You're less likely than (almost) ever before to fall victim to a crime in Germany; but you're more likely to fall victim to a crime where the victim is chosen at random.

Migration has caused a noticeable surge in street crime (interestingly, the worst offenders aren't Syrian or Afghan refugees but regular migrants from North Africa). Another factor is a general sentiment of grumpiness (for lack of a better word) in German society often blamed on social cohesion taking a hit during Covid. For example, road rage violence has become endemic recently.

 

[haze99]

The replacement, thats not happening. We are told...

Nearly Half of London's Social Housing Properties Inhabited by Migrants

Almost half of the social housing properties in London are reportedly being occupied by families with a migrant head of household.

www.breitbart.com

 

[haze99]

Argentina womens field hockey team

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a true observation and sad indictment of the governing bodies over European nations.

 

[primer]

Uraguay may actually be whiter. Not much sign of previous inhabitants.

 

[Gaz]

England's women's field hockey team.

 

[Junglejim]

Argentina womens field hockey team

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a true observation and sad indictment of the governing bodies over European nations.

so its only cool to invade and eradicate the native population if its white on brown but not brown on white.

If you guys are so obsessed with the whiteness of your countries... start f***ing. Either that or just enjoy the different flavors. Think of it as the Baskin Robbins of poon. Unless, your obsession with the "whiteness" is a hidden racist innuendo, then I believe you have clubs for that there.

As for the "they dont want to assimilate" crowd, seriously its your fellow whites who feel they should be more tolerant . It's your countrymen killing your own culture, not the browns falling off boats. Acceptance is not Tolerance.

 

[Musashi]

Argentina womens field hockey team

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a true observation and sad indictment of the governing bodies over European nations.

You keep on posting the same stupidity, suggesting that the EU forces its members into taking people of other race.
Just look at random Polish sport team and you will hardly see any non-whites.
Are you implying that the EU forces its „diversity” policies on just some countries, while the other ones don’t need to obey these rules?

You are a racist, as several forum members have already pointed it out.

 

[Jake84]

You keep on posting the same stupidity, suggesting that the EU forces its members into taking people of other race.
Just look at random Polish sport team and you will hardly see any non-whites.
Are you implying that the EU forces its „diversity” policies on just some countries, while the other ones don’t need to obey these rules?

You are a racist, as several forum members have already pointed it out.

The truth of the matter is some of these loser incels have a hard-on for Trump, JD Vance all while being incapable to get on a date while having wet dreams about some Sabrina Carpenter lookalike. Likely they stutter in front of any woman in real life but really are blowhard on the internet. Typical.

A reflect of their own miserable existence and desperation that clearly show online. Got to say, that’s amusing to witness and read, unless that cross a line and we have to take action…

 

[Gaz]

I'm on board with using women's field hockey teams as new yardsticks of national demographics. Of the eighteen in the English squad there are two Lily's and two Hollie/Hollys therefore 22 percent of all English people are either called Lily or Hollie/Holly.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

If we are talking sport, female sports might not be the most representative.

Take male sports, popular ones, especially soccer.

But most remain broadly white, afaik.

 

[Gaz]

I've got my system and I'm sticking to it.

6.45 percent of Argentines wear white clothes and the other 93.55 percent wear black clothes. There are no other colours available in Argentinian shops.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

I've got my system and I'm sticking to it.

6.45 percent of Argentines wear white clothes and the other 93.55 percent wear black clothes. There are no other colours available in Argentinian shops.

That's only because they haven't invented color.

 

[Mike1976]

If we are talking sport, female sports might not be the most representative.

Take male sports, popular ones, especially soccer.

But most remain broadly white, afaik.

Dutch national team, men

Dutch national team, women

(With the added mention that the female #7 is not the #1 striker, who'm is also white)

Even the US womens football team is virtually all white. Professional sports isn't an obvious first career choice for girls as it is for boys.

Let's not even bring the Dutch field hockey teams into this as both could just as easily be pictures from a Klan meeting

It also depends on the sport. In "black" sports like baseball and basketbal you see the opposite thing.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Baseball is a "black" sport?

Always assumed that was one of the most cosmopolite sport.

But I am not that interested in it anyway...