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It feels like the movie Downfall.
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It feels like the movie Downfall.
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EXC: Biden-Harris Ended Trump's 'Crisis Response' Plan Aimed at Avoiding Benghazi-Style Evacuation of Afghanistan. - The National Pulse
Joe Biden’s State Department moved to cancel a critical State Department program aimed at providing swift and safe evacuations of Americans out of crisis zones just months before the fall of Kabul, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal.The “Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau” – which was...
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All of this because of their hatred for Trump.
shorter version:
Q: Was it a failure of intelligence, planning, execution?
A: It just all collapsed. That's what happened.
Q: Did you plan this to happen?
A: Yes.
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Even she couldn't be that dumb!!!
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Pretty interesting assessment of the failures in play.
www.justsecurity.org
CIA’s Former Counterterrorism Chief for the Region: Afghanistan, Not An Intelligence Failure — Something Much Worse
"While it’s certainly convenient to depict the shock and miscalculation U.S. officials claim over Afghanistan’s tragic, rapid fall to the Taliban as an intelligence failure, the reality is far worse."
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MSNBC opinion piece compares Republicans to Taliban
MSNBC brought what some consider an extreme take on the Afghanistan crisis by comparing pro-life Republicans to the Taliban.
Sheesh...
It used to be the KKK, the nazis, Maduro, Mugabe. Now it's the Taliban?
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soooo... regarding the debacle taking place in man boy love land, all the pics and videos I have seen the majority are military aged males.... maybe I am stating the obvious, and I have not seen this opinion elsewhere, but maybe if they had decided to fight for their country, this would not be happening.
you fence sit for 20 years and expect to not ever have to do any heavy lifting this is what happens.
you fence sit for 20 years and expect to not ever have to do any heavy lifting this is what happens.
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Analysis of the situation, put in perspective, done right by people I work and have worked with. (take notes mordoror)
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Tom Tugendhat on UK and Afghanistan: Anger, grief, rage
Tory MP Tom Tugendhat speaks of the anger, grief and rage of veterans at the "abandonment" of Afghanistan.
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But hey!
At least there are no more mean tweets from an orange man who was Putin's puppet.
It's funny because I remember telmar being all revved up about the gossips regarding (false) Trump's disparaging comments on fallen troops.
Yet, here we are, with Biden spitting to the face and on the graves of all those who fought in Afghanistan.
Moral bankruptcy made manifest.
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In 20 years of fighting over 65,000 members of the Afghan security forces have died. The casualties the US suffered in Vietnam were less and by a much larger population. Yet it has continued to be a national trauma for decades.
But yeah the Afghans let others do the heavy lifting ?
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I think US casualties in Vietnam are around 75000, and in a ten year scale, and in a country that was'nt their own. .
You might want to compare with killed Vietnamese soldiers, and I would say the number is higher.
There is no doubt many Afghans were brave, did what they could in a culture of corruption, of buying off elders and local leaders, and in fear of their families being targetted (things the Taliban don' t care about). There is no doubt many people were exemplary, and they deserve a way out they might not get. In one word, I have more respect for the people still there than the people who presented themselves up to now as refugees, in their 20' s, who could have fought for their country and their people.
Overall, I believe the Afghans are mostly indifferent to centralized leadership, and respect their local leaders, who made deals with the Taliban. In countries like that, I suppose day to day survival trumps it all.
Donald Trump was right to leave, and Biden is right to enforce it. The date set in spring was a poor choice, but given the fact the taliban did' nt even need to fight, leaving in the winter might not have had any difference.
It' s harrowing, but the Americans lost 4000 people there, not counting the ones coming back with crippling injuries. It's very difficult for those Americans, Brits and others who took the fight to make it a better place to see thing turn like that. at least for now.
Kamala incoming, clear the LZ
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"Contrition requires decency."
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It shows how wired together these entities are.
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*knock on wood*
Inspiring and charismatic leadership.
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