Mil News Current Iran/Iraq/US Tensions and Actions Unfolding

Yeah we’re going in circles here. I can’t disagree with Mardonius about the middle eastern adventures of America and how much of a ‘success’ they were, to my regret, but before I stand accused of being anti-American would add the French to the mix for screwing up Libya big times too.

Or Mali, which has been all but a mess too, with Malians now asking the French to leave (I’m inclined to agree with them, we need troops at home instead of attempting to protect French giants like Total or Lafage).

As I said, we have the biggest guns, we only lack some will, or guts to paraphrase Fluff.
 
Like we've seen in Vietnam, Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan?

The US is overrated. So is the rest of the Anglo-Saxon bunch.

Sounds like false bravado, spoken from the safety of a keyboard.

Anyone would be insane to underestimate the blunt end of an unleashed US military. Political decisions may be what they are, but I can't think of another entity in human history with the power to kill people and break things that the US military possesses.

Overrated? Please.
 
Sounds like false bravado, spoken from the safety of a keyboard.

Anyone would be insane to underestimate the blunt end of an unleashed US military. Political decisions may be what they are, but I can't think of another entity in human history with the power to kill people and break things that the US military possesses.

Overrated? Please.

Overrated, indeed.

How many times has this ability to break things resulted in somewhat of a victory for the US? Please inform me.

The US is like that fat bully who everybody avoids, but is just too clumsy and stupid to realize that having the biggest and meanest hammer doesn't win you wars.

And with US power increasingly declining now, in relative to other upcoming powers, the US will soon find out that the heyday of American might are long over. That is why the likes of Iran feel embolden to confront it.

You shouldn't take it personal. Empires rise and fall.
 
Overrated, indeed.

How many times has this ability to break things resulted in somewhat of a victory for the US? Please inform me.

The US is like that fat bully who everybody avoids, but is just too clumsy and stupid to realize that having the biggest and meanest hammer doesn't win you wars.

And with US power increasingly declining now, in relative to other upcoming powers, the US will soon find out that the heyday of American might are long over. That is why the likes of Iran feel embolden to confront it.

You shouldn't take it personal. Empires rise and fall.
The Persian Empire fell long, long, long ago.
 
One of the last pre-mission briefs I attended in Afghanistan we had some visiting US State Dept. folks & a few of those Christian In Action kids. Towards the end of the brief a concern for collateral to a school was marked on the so we could enter the coordinates so we couldn't drop ordinance on it. The State guy matter of factly mentioned those kids lives sucked & we'd be doing them a favor to kill them. My homeland is against knowing killing innocents but the US attitudes seem to be shifting towards a scorched earth attitude to accomplish a mission. Their heart doesn't seem to be into rebuilding Gaza to quickly I've noticed. Just my 2 kroners worth. We've been at this GWOT for almost 20 years, maybe it's time to take the gloves off & get this done so my kids don't have to deal with it. The new administration in Israel seems to lean way to the right, maybe they'll pass out the launch codes finally.
 
The Persian Empire fell long, long, long ago.

Iran/Persia is one of the worlds oldest and most consistent power centers, right up there with China, India, and the Mediterranean Sea.

It has always bounced back after a period of decline.
 
If it's substantially proven that the drones attacking al asad air base with Americans there were from the IRGC trying to kill US soldiers then the US needs a proportional response. May I suggest the Golestan Palace in Tehran while it's still decorated for Gay Pride month. It's precious.
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the lion holding a sword like Rhodesia's symbol!?
 
One of the last pre-mission briefs I attended in Afghanistan we had some visiting US State Dept. folks & a few of those Christian In Action kids. Towards the end of the brief a concern for collateral to a school was marked on the so we could enter the coordinates so we couldn't drop ordinance on it. The State guy matter of factly mentioned those kids lives sucked & we'd be doing them a favor to kill them. My homeland is against knowing killing innocents but the US attitudes seem to be shifting towards a scorched earth attitude to accomplish a mission. Their heart doesn't seem to be into rebuilding Gaza to quickly I've noticed. Just my 2 kroners worth. We've been at this GWOT for almost 20 years, maybe it's time to take the gloves off & get this done so my kids don't have to deal with it. The new administration in Israel seems to lean way to the right, maybe they'll pass out the launch codes finally.

Imagine having killed over 200.000 civilians in Afghanistan in a two-decade old war and still think that killing more civilians ("magically taking the gloves off") would have been the answer to the failure of the West to achieve meaningful and tangible results in A'stan.

No matter how many bombs you drop, you will always fail.
 
Imagine having killed over 200.000 civilians in Afghanistan in a two-decade old war and still think that killing more civilians ("magically taking the gloves off") would have been the answer to the failure of the West to achieve meaningful and tangible results in A'stan.

No matter how many bombs you drop, you will always fail.
Imagine supplying your stooges with thousands of rockets and ordering them to fire them indiscriminately at civilians, and 10-15% of them fail and kill their own people and most of the remainder are shot down.....and then your ships mysteriously start sinking and oil facilities and steel mills suddenly catch fire.

Oh yes, the Persian Empire! It has never quite recovered since Alexander the Great cleaned it's clock 2500 years ago.
 
Imagine having killed over 200.000 civilians in Afghanistan in a two-decade old war and still think that killing more civilians ("magically taking the gloves off") would have been the answer to the failure of the West to achieve meaningful and tangible results in A'stan.

No matter how many bombs you drop, you will always fail.
M: Not sure what propaganda you're smoking but the numbers of civs is around 31,000 with afghan soldiers & terrorists around 80,000. Bombs work for taking out the targets we mean to take out.
 
No matter how many bombs you drop, you will always fail.
When a coalition aircraft carrier pulls in view from your shoreline you're going to have a bad day........
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Iran’s Proxies in Iraq Threaten U.S. With More Sophisticated Weapons

BAGHDAD — The United States is grappling with a rapidly evolving threat from Iranian proxies in Iraq after militia forces specialized in operating more sophisticated weaponry, including armed drones, have hit some of the most sensitive American targets in attacks that evaded U.S. defenses.

At least three times in the past two months, those militias have used small, explosive-laden drones that divebomb and crash into their targets in late-night attacks on Iraqi bases — including those used by the C.I.A. and U.S. Special Operations units, according to American officials.

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I am sorry, but none of this clarifies in any way how the IRGC would defeat the US in an all-out conflict.
 
New attacks on US targets in Iraq:

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Maybe the Iranian 'invasion fleet' currently crossing the atlantic, is going to Launch Drone attacks on Florida???You know, as its the home of satan - the US, not Florida specifically....
 
20 Iranian F-14 Tomcats are still mission capable. Poo must be good luck.
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Russia is preparing to supply Iran with an advanced satellite system that will boost Tehran’s ability to surveil military targets, officials say

Russia is preparing to supply Iran with an advanced satellite system that will give Tehran an unprecedented ability to track potential military targets across the Middle East and beyond, according to current and former U.S. and Middle Eastern officials briefed on details of the arrangement.

The plan would deliver to the Iranians a Russian-made Kanopus-V satellite equipped with a high-resolution camera that would greatly enhance Iran’s spying capabilities, allowing continuous monitoring of facilities ranging from Persian Gulf oil refineries and Israeli military bases to Iraqi barracks that house U.S. troops, the officials said. The launch could happen within months, they said.

While the Kanopus-V is marketed for civilian use, Iranian military officials have been heavily involved in the acquisition, and leaders of Iran’s elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps have made multiple trips to Russia since 2018 to help negotiate the terms of the agreement, the officials said. As recently as this spring, Russian experts traveled to Iran to help train ground crews who would operate the satellite from a newly built facility near the northern city of Karaj, the officials said.

Details of the agreement were described by a current and a former U.S. official as well as a senior Middle Eastern government official briefed on the sale. The three officials spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing sensitivities surrounding ongoing intelligence collection efforts. The Russian Foreign Ministry in Moscow did not respond to an email request for comment.


The disclosures came as President Biden is preparing for his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin. The imminent launch of a Russian-made Iranian satellite could add to a long list of contentious issues that have strained relations between Moscow and Washington, including most notably recent Russian hacking operations and efforts to interfere with U.S. elections. Opponents of the U.S. reentering the nuclear accord with Iran are also likely to seize on the disclosure to argue against any engagement with Tehran that doesn’t address its military ambitions in the region.

If fully realized, the deal would represent a significant boost for an Iranian military establishment that has struggled in its own attempts to put a military reconnaissance satellite into orbit. After several prominent failures, Iran last year successfully launched an indigenous military satellite dubbed Noor-1, but the spacecraft was quickly derided by a senior Pentagon official as a “tumbling webcam.”

Under the agreement reached with Moscow, Iran’s new satellite would be launched in Russia and would feature Russian hardware, including a camera with a resolution of 1.2 meters — a significant improvement over Iran’s current capabilities, though still far short of the quality achieved by U.S. spy satellites or high-end commercial satellite imagery providers. More importantly, Iran would be able to “task” the new satellite to spy on locations of its choosing, and as often as it wishes, the officials said.

“It’s not the best in the world, but it’s high-resolution and very good for military aims,” said the Middle Eastern official familiar with the satellite’s hardware package. “This capability will allow Iran to maintain an accurate target bank, and to update that target bank within a few hours” every day.

Equally concerning, the official said, is the possibility that Iran could share the imagery with pro-Iranian militia groups across the region, from the Houthi rebels battling Saudi-backed government forces in Yemen to Hezbollah fighters in southern Lebanon and Shiite militias in Iraq and Syria. Pro-Iranian militias have been linked to repeated rocket attacks on Iraqi military bases that are home to U.S. troops and military trainers.

While key aspects of the satellite’s capability have been kept under wraps, Iran and Russia both publicly disclosed their intention to go into the space business together. As far back as 2015, Iran’s Press TV news service reported that Iranian and Russian companies had entered an arrangement that would allow Iran to acquire a “remote-sensing system which can be employed for collecting information about the Earth’s surface, atmosphere and oceans.”

The article listed the deal’s Russian partners as NPK BARL and VNIIEM, two firms that would build and launch the satellite in a partnership with the Iranian state-operated trade company Bonyan Danesh Shargh and the Iranian Space Agency.

Independent experts and analysts said Iran’s new spying capabilities would be especially worrying, given Tehran’s recent advances in missile guidance systems. Iran is producing an array of ballistic missiles and drones that are able to strike distant targets with precision, and access to improved satellite imagery could make them even more effective, some said.

“Having this kind of on-call data feed may open up technical and operational possibilities that the Iranians previously didn’t have,” said Christopher Ford, the State Department’s top nonproliferation official under the Trump administration. “It sounds like a significant upgrade, not just a slight slide up the slope in terms of potential military applications.”

Other experts noted that Iran has previously managed to acquire high-resolution images by presumably purchasing them from commercial satellite companies, although Tehran’s ability to obtain real-time data about potential military targets was limited.

“A domestic capability to take those pictures is something the military wants, because it’s valuable to them,” said Jeffrey Lewis, a nonproliferation expert and professor at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies in Monterey, Calif. He added that acquiring Russian technology essentially would allow the Iranians a faster path to a capability they would have acquired on their own, given enough time.

“Is Iran’s military delighted? Yes, it is, and this is a real change,” Lewis said. “But it was going to happen sooner or later.”

 

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