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A member of the black community was president of that stolen land once; sounds an aweful lot like freedom to me. It also sounds as if the African-Americans have joined the league of "oppressors" of the native Americans.
 
A member of the black community was president of that stolen land once; sounds an aweful lot like freedom to me. It also sounds as if the African-Americans have joined the league of "oppressors" of the native Americans.
Brazilians have a saying that goes more or less like this,

"Democracy is when I give orders to you, dictatorship is when you give orders to me..."
 
Yes but!

"White people" still had it easier than black people. Now, one would have to define "have it easier than" and good luck making an objective comparison between working in cotton fields and being sent to dig coal.

One would also need to define "white people". Obviously it is something based on the skin color, but "Asians" are also considered as "white people", "Hispanics" are considered as "white people", some black people are even considered "white people". Either because their skin isn't "dark enough" or because their sociol-economics status "does not fit".
Last point is rather amusing by the way, considering one of the founder of BLM resigned some time after it was made public she somehow managed to buy several US$ mil worth of real-estate properties.

Anyway, it all relies on "collective guilt" and "ancestral guilt". One is guilty of his ancestors' crimes, wether or not his ancestors did, indeed, committed crimes or not; guilty of his country's crimes; and guilty of the crimes committed by those who share the same skin color or system of belief (Christians for instance).
Not only is it pushed by minorities, but also by those targeted by these accusations. A lot of "white people" feel retrospectively and emotionally guilty.

I remember recently coming across a school meeting where CRT was being discussed (I'll try to find it back) in which one of the attendant made an argument in defense of CRT by drawing a parallel with Germany's denazification, and how kids had been taught over and over again how "they" caused the Holocaust. Which I thought was inaccurate, but Muck or any German member can correct me on that point, since West Germany and East Germany had two different approaches regarding the subject:
-West: this happened, but you are not responsible for what happened. You are not the ones who did it.
-East: this happened, you caused it, your country caused it, your parents and grand parents caused it.

I can't speak for the GDR as I wasn't in school there only for the West German school system.

I had quite good teachers. It is a mix of history and the mechanics of dictatorships and how they work and they attract people.

They do not say you are responsible or guilty, but you have the responsibility to never let it happen again.

The West had a big problem in the early years being infested with old Nazis in the jurisdictional system and elsewhere.
 
The vast majority of english/british people were piss poor, why else would they try to get to America, same as the Irish , italians and everyone else. My old dad used to say rich people just had ancestors that were better bullies than ours had been. Material wealth for anyone other than the super rich is a pretty 'new' idea. I'm happy to share, but no-one recalls having slaves in my family, so maybe we all need to get along, because otherwise there isnt going to be anything worth having, and we will make the world look like the Balkans.

Most people were extremely poor. My gand parents still haven't had shoes as kids.

It is very divisive to always dig out the past, because where do you draw the line?

Some other exploited

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What can be done is to somehow even out shortcomings in the system.
 
The Vikings took slaves, a lot from the UK, so should we demand some money from Denmark etc? Or is it ok because it was a long time ago, and the bad people and the slaves were the same colour, or just werent black? But those people's descendants now live in a country with huge wealth, so their GGGG-grandkids got a good life.

For sure today there should not be massive disparity in education, lifechances etc, but denying maths, and claiming you dont like living in a country with abundant cheap food, medicine, roads etc, because the other people's predecessors stole your GGGG-parents, is not the way to go.
 
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The Vikings took slaves, a lot from the UK, so should we demand some money from Denmark etc? Or is it ok because it was a long time ago, and the bad people and the slaves were the same colour, or just werent black? But those people's descendants now live in a country with huge wealth, so their GGGG-grandkids got a good life.

For sure today there should not be massive disparity in education, lifechances etc, but denying maths, and claiming you dont like living in a country with abundant cheap food, medicine, roads etc, because the other people's predecessors stole your GGGG-parents, is not the way to go.
If you take it back far enough, I'm sure that one or more groups of hominids were fleeing violence and oppression from other groups of hominids. Does this mean that those of use of European descent can sue those of African descent because our ancestors were oppressed 1.8 million years ago? Obviously I say this in jest, but it's the current mindset taken back to the beginning of our species.
 
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rooftop Korean gets kicked in the dick, defends himself, gets led away by police. SMFH
I am getting really tired of these people, and I am even more tired of LEO sitting on their hands.
The moment you lay hands on someone, its not a peaceful protest.
And all of this because some guy that thinks he is a woman, exposing his "man penis" in a spa, to underage females.
 
@Ivan le Fou & @Picanha

Take this with a grain of salt – Germany's school system is federalised, so each state has a different curriculum and I'm obviously not acquainted with each and every one of them –, but I'd suggest the school system's stance on the Nazi era was the exact opposite from Ivan's perception.

The German Democratic Republic insisted on representing a watershed in German history – the land of the good and righteous Germans, wholly cleansed of Nazism. The de-nazification elements of their school system were largely ideologically motivated, not historically.

East German students were taught that Nazism was a logical consequence of Capitalism. Nazi crimes were covered, but in a manner designed to portray Socialism as superior, or to facilitate the persecution of dissidents. Alleged murderers are easier to hate than peaceful critics, after all.

As far as West Germany goes, the 1950's were an era of denial. Everyone and their dog wanted to enjoy their Wirtschaftswunder and not be reminded of the past – or of politics in general. It's the only decade in which the old adage: "Don't mention the War!" holds some truth.

While the British and French turned a blind eye to that budging mentality, the American occupation authorities in a bid to boost the West German government allowed it to flourish. Publicly they declared that German civilians had not known the true extent of the Nazis' crimes.

The 1968 student revolt led to a new mentality (one of the few positive achievements of that movement), and the adoption of new curricula placing a great emphasis on de-nazification. Generally speaking, students have since been required to visit a KZ memorial at least once.

High school students spend up to an entire year of history class learning about Nazism. It's also a recurring topic in religious education or ethics class (widely mandatory for students who don't wish to receive religious education). Its easily the single-most covered subject.

(Having said that, students of lower-tier secondary schools receive less education on Nazism, which is in line with their lower quality of education in general. This has proved problematic as of late, failing to quell the rabid anti-Semitism of many Muslim immigrants.)

As far as the de-nazification of the political apparatus goes (or rather the lack thereof), I'd argue each Germany gave the other a run for its money. It's true many post-war West German officials had served in the Nazi state, ranging from nominal party members to war criminals.

But their tacit incorporation into the new administration was due to the very same necessities also faced by the GDR: There weren't enough other men left to do the job. The primary difference was East Germany's political leaders were, by and large, Socialists returned from exile.

This gave them a sense of superiority. But for the first two decades after the war, the administrative arm of their government was as "brown" as its Western counterpart. The regime was only quicker in removing the old Nazis once fresh functionaries had become available.

Anyways, many people argue the GDR's true mentality towards Nazism, and the quality of its de-nazification efforts, have been on full display ever since the Reunification. The eastern half of the country is a hotbed of neo-Nazism and, generally speaking, more apologetic of Hitler.
 
Independent Truck Co. drops iconic cross logo because something something hate.

What a load of shite, the form of the cross used by the truck company is a cross with rounded ends to the arms, the Iron Cross which was established by the Prussian State in 1815, again in 1870, 1914 and 1939 with the III Reich (with an added swastika in the center and change of ribbon color) had flat ended arms.
 
What a load of shite, the form of the cross used by the truck company is a cross with rounded ends to the arms, the Iron Cross which was established by the Prussian State in 1815, again in 1870, 1914 and 1939 with the III Reich (with an added swastika in the center and change of ribbon color) had flat ended arms.
Just remember, history is a white supremacist concept, sort of like the OK symbol and math.
 
Not exactly woke but.. so cell buster that is a pepper spray they use fill uncontrollable inmate cell has been called inhumane be banned by NZ human rights commission. Run by a "useful idiot pom" whom gave the worse gang leader in NZ $200 tax funded money when gang leader told pom could only attend their meeting if he gave him this "koka". No one else was DUMB enough to fall for that.

The prison run by poms is being sued by an asthmatic inmate whose lawyer is a pom.
 
Independent Truck Co. drops iconic cross logo because something something hate.

I am surprised they are still in business anyway to be honest - as anyone who had any idea chose Gull Wings.............
 
Not exactly woke but.. so cell buster that is a pepper spray they use fill uncontrollable inmate cell has been called inhumane be banned by NZ human rights commission. Run by a "useful idiot pom" whom gave the worse gang leader in NZ $200 tax funded money when gang leader told pom could only attend their meeting if he gave him this "koka". No one else was DUMB enough to fall for that.

The prison run by poms is being sued by an asthmatic inmate whose lawyer is a pom.
That's amazingly stupid, even by politician standards.
 
We have a Woman going full on woke with a guy who was having a private convo with his Gf . She butted in and accused the guy of being disrespectful towards his GF
 
We have a Woman going full on woke with a guy who was having a private convo with his Gf . She butted in and accused the guy of being disrespectful towards his GF
Just go and defuse the situation and say if she needs a *hag - you will take one for the team.............
 

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