Politics South China Sea Thread

[Gaz]

Real?
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No.

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[Tymotka]

The problem is that the shitheads in Beijing and Moscow decided at the beginning of the year that it was time for our New World Order. The grand plan was for the Russians to get their hands on Ukraine and then the Baltic states, using energy and food as weapons of blackmail.
China would have pulled in Taiwan, (semiconductor industry) plus launched in the South China waters.
So there is no "just one crisis" to deal with

You are correct, those two certainly have a shared interest in dismantling the current order and have worked diligently to do so, but there is a high level of xenophobia and distrust on both sides that prevents "lips and teeth" coordination. Russia is definitely the junior partner, and would love to drag China into their Ukraine morass, but China, I mean Xi, has his own plan and time frame, and Comrade Putin upset Xi's plans by invading Ukraine without his permission.

Russia is useful to China by distracting the West, but it is also beneficial to have the West continue to weaken Russia to make them more malleable to Chinese designs. That, however, is a narrow needle to thread. It is impossible to control the actions of third parties who have their own agendas. Ultimately, Putin and Xi have irreconcilable goals, and their own quite deluded vision of their respective historic destinies.

 

[Junglejim]

Actually, China's vision is not as deluded as some think. The territories it want has always been disputed. It has no plans to invade another country to seize it. It is more about influence and control. Same as what the US has.

Mind you nobody recognizes Taiwan and as independent country. Even Taiwan thinks its part of China and should run it.

 

[Hiryu2.0]

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[pigmode]

US 'must contest' Chinese missiles over Taiwan, says admiral

Firing missiles over Taiwan is a "gorilla in the room" that must be challenged, a top US commander says.

news.yahoo.com

Tuesday's comments by Vice Admiral Thomas are significant, Based in Yokosuka, Japan, the Seventh Fleet is the largest forward-deployed fleet in the US Navy, with some 50 to 70 vessels and submarines - and is a key part of its military presence in the region.


"It's very important that we contest this type of thing. I know that the gorilla in the room is launching missiles over Taiwan," Vice Admiral Thomas told reporters in Singapore. "It's irresponsible to launch missiles over Taiwan into international waters.

"If you don't challenge it... all of a sudden it can become just like the islands in the South China Sea [that] have now become military outposts. They now are full functioning military outposts that have missiles on them, large runways, hangers, radars, listening posts."

 

[Hiryu2.0]

U.S., South Korea, Japan hold missile defense exercise with eye on North Korea, China

The United States, South Korea and Japan participated in a ballistic missile defense exercise off Hawaii's coast last week, the Pentagon said on Tuesday, reviving combined drills with an eye on North Korea as well as China.

www.reuters.com

 

[pigmode]

Former top CIA analysts on China's reaction to Nancy Pelosi's Taiwan trip

The two experts talked with "Intelligence Matters" host Michael Morell about China's reaction to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan earlier this month.

news.yahoo.com

Actual interview is a bit long.

 

[Picanha]

German Air Force shows it can be in Asia in a day​

German Air Force shows it can be in Asia in a day

Taiwan issue serves as a wake-up call to European powers

asia.nikkei.com

Six Eurofighter jets, four A400M multirole aircraft and three A330 multirole tanker transport planes on Monday took off from Neuburg Air Base, en route to Singapore. The goal was to reach the city-state within 24 hours, which it did, to show that the German Air Force can be in the heart of the Indo-Pacific in a day.

 

[surfpunk]

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[Junglejim]

German Air Force shows it can be in Asia in a day​

German Air Force shows it can be in Asia in a day

Taiwan issue serves as a wake-up call to European powers

asia.nikkei.com

Six Eurofighter jets, four A400M multirole aircraft and three A330 multirole tanker transport planes on Monday took off from Neuburg Air Base, en route to Singapore. The goal was to reach the city-state within 24 hours, which it did, to show that the German Air Force can be in the heart of the Indo-Pacific in a day.

Germans do know that Airliners can fly for a lot less time right?

 

[Picanha]

The Typhoons cockpit is a bit smaller than the standard airliners one. So I guess it was not an emergency "training" where you theoretically can be replenished by the MRTTs midair without having that many stops.

Maybe technical necessity maybe a comfort issue for the pilots.

Tornadoes flew/fly regularly over the atlantic but thats a much shorter distance.

 

[Junglejim]

Yeah, just a weird flex as it wasnt a mobilization exercise. The USAF does oceanic flight with their fighters and the bigger planes, that would just be normal. The Turkish A400m delivered the choppers from Turkey to the Philippines.

 

[Chazman]

Taiwan Makes Good On Threat To Shoot Down Intruding Chinese Drones

The incident follows a string of incursions by Chinese drones over Taiwan’s outlying islands close to the mainland.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Redav]

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[Junglejim]

The last bit of text posted was there to make it seem scary but, almost all over Asia the seamless integration is happening. We are way behind them but, we can withdraw from ATMs here using facial recognition or your thumbprint instead of key codes. It has nothing to do about your "social credit."

 

[Picanha]

But is it not that China already uses FR to lock you in if your Corona pass is red? Its a nice way to train the AI.

In China they sure as hell are tracking people with it. The kids will find it totally normal. As they are already using it without questioning it.

They most probbaly also never discuss ethics.

I don't endorse that. Whats the problem with the card? It doesn't take longer. Just doesn't produce that much food for hungry AI learning.

And teh AI will learn what teh party wants it to detect.

 

[Junglejim]

My point is these types of posts are more of a distraction of what is really happening. The Chinese governments way of keeping track of its people or the people in China is far less intrusive in your day to day. There's a video out there of a European working for a cargo company and he pointed at the sensors all over the Chinese coast lines that ensure all the ships passing through have the individual sailors tracked and known, within its territory.

Scary, yes... intrusive no. Do other countries do it? Yes... the fact that the main supplier for surveillance equipment for the Philippine Intel agencies in the country was bragged to me as "German" made.

You keep pointing to China, when I'm pretty sure your governments are doing the same. Now, how I would know that your government is better than China... is because of posters here who think what the Chinese government is doing is scary. Intelligence agencies work on data, valid data, meaning no intel service in the planet can track and watch all of its population at the same time, so their job is to gather and look for specifics. Meaning, no government is interested on Jimy's midget porn history, unless Jimy raises a concern.

If you are aghast at the idea of the Chinese intel of doing things, worry more about what your own governments are doing than whats happening across the pond.

Tell me, can you buy sim cards in EU without an ID or registering it? That alone would tell you how your population is on the same boat as the Chinese. Not sharing the same cabin yet, but definitely on the same boat.

 

[surfpunk]

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love that Japan still flies the rising sun ensign

 

[Junglejim]

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love that Japan still flies the rising sun ensign

If you have a chance, go to the Yushikan Museum... lets just say they have an interesting take on WW2 history.

 

[Redav]

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