Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[Chazman]

Putin knew from the very start that the US sending troops or even implementing heavy sanctions prior to an actual invasion were unlikely, and he probably thought it unlikely that there would be such severe sanctions at all. The war/conflict weariness in the US because of Iraq and Afghanistan would have been the same under either administration. The only difference is that Biden was more open about it where Trump's response would have been more difficult to calculate for an opponent.

I don't think Putin would have been put off by it, he is exactly the guy who is willing to take that risk and bluff his way to a win. Trump is similar in that regard, but would have had his hands tied with the lack of public support for going tough on Russia pre-invasion. Putin has no such obstacle.

I think I've said it about a dozen times in this thread: Stop Buying Putin's Oil And Gas. That's the only thing that will hurt him.

 

[Fluff]

Putin knew from the very start that the US sending troops or even implementing heavy sanctions prior to an actual invasion were unlikely, and he probably thought it unlikely that there would be such severe sanctions at all. The war/conflict weariness in the US because of Iraq and Afghanistan would have been the same under either administration and it was plain for all to see. Both candidates ran on the platform of bringing the troops home and looking at internal matters instead. The only difference is that Biden was more open about it where Trump's response would have been more difficult to calculate for an opponent.

I don't think Putin would have been put off by it, he is exactly the guy who is willing to take that risk and bluff his way to a win. Trump is similar in that regard, but would have had his hands tied with the complete lack of public support for going tough on Russia pre-invasion. Putin had no such obstacle.

After the Afghan withdrawal, and Bidens let’s say simplistic approach, plus European 40 years of taking the gas and turning a cheek, why would putin think anything else?

Even putin is like wtf…

 

[CemalPasha]

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[Rohme]

You need to eat less cheese, these wet dreams will, with time reduce.

There are 2 plane makers in the world, 1 us, 1 eu. There are some small players, you mentioned.

Yes, us and eu citizens dream of the time they fly in planes build by Arabs, Chechens and Chinese.

Get your facts right, the Chechens are in the demolition business, no evidence of them changing trade any time soon.
When EU and US dreamers fly into China, their dreams would inevitable get fulfilled, lest they choose to ride in Chinese stagecoach.
As spelled out above, Arabs are kicking as. as it is, besides, the regional flying carpet union is dead against Arab kings investing in plane manufacture.

 

[Fluff]

I think I've said it about a dozen times in this thread: Stop Buying Putin's Oil And Gas. That's the only thing that will hurt him.

I think we are all trying, us and U.K., very low purchases, so not really an issue, Germany 40% or more, money talks, but it will take a while to route ships, buy the gas in USA, quatar etc. USA needs to send ships asap.

 

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[Chazman]

India looks to bail out Russia with discount crude oil purchase

India, which imports 80 per cent of its oil needs, usually buys only about 1 per cent from Russia. But following price increases, New Delhi is looking at how it can reduce its energy bill.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Musashi]

How France delivered weapons to Russia until 2020:

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[surfpunk]

How France delivered weapons to Russia until 2020:

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plenty of culpability to go around. some of us just want our own countries to start being moral and ethical

 

[Rohme]

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[Fluff]

plenty of culpability to go around. some of us just want our own countries to start being moral and ethical

Ref France, selling avionics, fortunately the Russians fitted the avionics.

The Chinese would have copied, and improved them….

Russia cannot believe, USA makes gps, buys 500 units for mil, then allows it for sale to fishermen, etc.

USA cannot believe Russians so gullible…….

 

[Fluff]

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What? To whom? Go to bed, your country needs you.

 

[Rohme]

plenty of culpability to go around. some of us just want our own countries to start being moral and ethical

Putin knows this, and the Chinese are rubbing their hands with glee !

 

[Chazman]

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China And Saudi Arabia Strengthen Ties With $10 Billion Petrochemical Plan | OilPrice.com

Saudi Arabia and China have renewed discussions about a joint refining and petrochemical complex, yet another sign of Saudi Arabia’s drift away from the U.S.

oilprice.com

 

[TheKiwi]

That's funny. Saudi's couldn't organise a beer and a bj in a brothel with a bar, let alone a refinery construction.

India looks to bail out Russia with discount crude oil purchase

India, which imports 80 per cent of its oil needs, usually buys only about 1 per cent from Russia. But following price increases, New Delhi is looking at how it can reduce its energy bill.

www.dailymail.co.uk

India will buy Russian oil at an 80% discount. I expect they are also negotiating a substantial discount for any future Russian military equipment or for the support of any existing equipment after it has been shown to work so well.

 

[Chazman]

India will buy Russian oil at an 80% discount. I expect they are also negotiating a substantial discount for any future Russian military equipment or for the support of any existing equipment after it has been shown to work so well.

The silver lining is that oil is a commodity. The more discounted oil on the market, the better.

 

[Chazman]

CDR Salamander. Worth a read.

Yes Ukraine and Russia - but the Varsity Game is China

among the ruins of the old order

cdrsalamander.substack.com

 

[Rohme]

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