Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

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Russian T-72B with addon shopping bag armor

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[thelistener]

Mark,

not arguing that what you are saying is wrong.
If you have time and will power look into money/benefit of this conflict.
Who is going to gain most from this conflict and reasons behind that (any war is just wrong) ?

This might lead you to different path and you might discover something new (any war is just wrong).
Try it and see for yourslef.

Good luck

I might not have the willpower but i'm going go on a limb here and say that you're implying that this will benefit the west/US and maybe it was even instigated by the west/US on the poor Russians.

 

[thelistener]

ESCALATE!

Even though they are the much hated western media maybe once in a while they are correct?

Russians understand force. What are you going to do instead? Placate them and make them feel like they had success using military force? Just like before?

F*** em, use your own little green men and deny responsibility like the Russians always do and when you get caught just laugh and claim whataboutism. Putin is not going to use nukes as response.
Shame that there is a weak president in the white house right now.

 

[Hiryu2.0]

 

[Kriva]

I might not have the willpower but i'm going go on a limb here and say that you're implying that this will benefit the west/US and maybe it was even instigated by the west/US on the poor Russians.

Do the homework and let's see what you will come back with
I have touched on this subject before.

To give it a bit of a structure you can focus on some of the following areas: Sociological, Technological, Economical, Environmental, Political.

Main players: US, European states, Ukraine, Russia, China

US
Benefits: ....
Drawbacks: ...

European states
Benefits: ....
Drawbacks: ...

Go as deep or as shallow as you wish

 

[Fluff]

It was considered a wacky conspiracy theory until Nuland's comments. We don't know what those labs are. Could be nothing, could be something. Nuland's comments seemed concerning, though. But let's not forget she is also a swamp creature who was part of the Ukrainian color revolution.

Gents honestly its only the US team that are running with this. We dont follow all the subtleties of your politics, but it does appear some of your people will say anything, even in wartime, to score some points off the opposition.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Ivan likes to stir the pot. You'll get used to it. Just give him a slap once a week, and he's a pussy cat.

Stirring the pot, sometimes, when necessary.
But calling others on their BS, that, I love. Especially if it can help them realize how dumb they are.


Anyway.

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[surfpunk]

It sounded to me as a goofy answer of people not knowing.

Look, that there are labs that' s for sure...Kharkiv had a top notch medical faculty. That those labs worked on diseases..well what labs don' t? That it was planned for bio warfare...come on!

Even the Chinese COVID 19 lab was'nt a warfare facility. And they've killed millions.

I dont know where you are getting the bio-warfare from. I never mentioned it.
you may not know this, but the US has a long history of using very corrupt, US friendly countries to get up to all sorts of things that are against the law back home.
covid came from a chinese lab? you have to be kidding. it came from bats and pangolins. anyone stating that covid came from a lab is a right wing conspiracy theorist. there is zero evidence.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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Nice way to frame the story...

Can't wait for smoothbrains to come yapping about "omg! Russia is blowing stuff inside a nuclear plant!"...

You know, just like they fired at and set fire to one of the buildings at that plant? Still haven't seen any picture of that burned down building...
Or any of the "destroyed Babi Yar" memorial.
Or the, how many was it 6?, IL76 full of paras allegedly shot down.

 

[Hiryu2.0]

Stirring the pot, sometimes, when necessary.
But calling others on their BS, that, I love. Especially if it can help them realize how dumb they are.


Anyway.

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As far as I am concerned, the Chinese minister can go and knock over his mother, a communist party secretary by profession, who was a bar dancer in Shanghai in her youth....

 

[Musashi]

Monsieur Putain did his best:

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[surfpunk]

Russian T-72B with addon shopping bag armor

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WTH? that is one tattered looking tank.

 

[Mark Sman]

Or the, how many was it 6?, IL76 full of paras allegedly shot down.

You know, I have wondered about this particular claim, counter-claim cloud of brown mist.

Is it possible that this stems from a Ukrainian long range attack very early on that struck an airfield inside Russia? Do you remember that?

Is it possible they caught IL76 on the ground here? And that generated the nugget which evolved into these stories.

Because the only other way I can feature multiple IL76 going down at that time and not being found yet is if it went into the water.

 

[surfpunk]

Even though they are the much hated western media maybe once in a while they are correct?

Russians understand force. What are you going to do instead? Placate them and make them feel like they had success using military force? Just like before?

F*** em, use your own little green men and deny responsibility like the Russians always do and when you get caught just laugh and claim whataboutism. Putin is not going to use nukes as response.
Shame that there is a weak president in the white house right now.

do you know what the threshold of response is for Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons? under what conditions would Russia respond with strategic nuclear weapons?

 

[Fluff]

Really rare and incredible combat footage. Thanks for sharing.

BTR4 has a 30mm cannon. You can see the infantry behind the BMP.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

As far as I am concerned, the Chinese minister can go and knock over his mother, a communist party secretary by profession, who was a bar dancer in Shanghai in her youth....

Very insightful comment.


Oh and Biden is coming over apparently...

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Sending Harris twice wasn't enough. So they are sending Joe.

 

[Fluff]

do you know what the threshold of response is for Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons? under what conditions would Russia respond with strategic nuclear weapons?

Yes, but if we accept the threat now, and we dont act, even though most would want to help the Ukrainians, and militarily its better to bleed Russia in Ukr, than Poland.

So next time, Russia invents some pretext to invade Lithuania, and warns us to keep out or get nuked, what are we going to do?

Hopefully our leaders have good information, that the Russian army is F***ed, and we are just waiting for the endgame, hence the downplaying of this threat.

 

[surfpunk]

Stirring the pot, sometimes, when necessary.
But calling others on their BS, that, I love. Especially if it can help them realize how dumb they are.


Anyway.

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I dont think calling people dumb is a good idea.... they react negatively, and may not actually be true. it may be that they really dont know the whole story or have all the facts.

 

[Fluff]

do you know what the threshold of response is for Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons? under what conditions would Russia respond with strategic nuclear weapons?

No, but I know a guy that does @Rohme

 

[Fluff]

Very insightful comment.


Oh and Biden is coming over apparently...

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Sending Harris twice wasn't enough. So they are sending Joe.

That has to be an escalation!

Anyway, here's an exclusive shot, inside Air force 1.