Orange man is not being civil, it's being petty.

And find a new leader for what? This "leader" should have been the UN until they became an evil entity on it's own. If you are suggesting a new US leader, then you are surely out of your mind. As much as Biden and Obama have tried to implement, we still aren't a 3rd world hellhole where leaders are easily coup removed and replaced by juntas or some people's committee.
I wasn't suggesting a new POTUS. I was suggesting another top ally country who can help Ukraine militarily and give guarantees that it won't be invaded again. I'm not ONLY criticizing the US. I know Europe F***ed up too but no one from Europe is exchanging pleasantries with Putin and criticizing Zelensky in this totally unproductive non sense way.
 
Regarding the submarine which the Norwegian company claims to have refused to fuel - it's nuclear powered and typically submerges as it starts it's deployment and doesn't come to the surface until months later as it sails into port. FYI
 
Exactly. Bad peace can come to bite us in the future. But good peace will not be achieved with current measures. Unless one believes that Russian war economy will collapse, which it won't.
Russian economy will not be the key to peace.... a pigsty might smell and abhorrent to us, it;s still home to the pig. Give Ukraine what it needs... not in half baked numbers too.
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Question, do you truly believe that?
 
Russian economy will not be the key to peace.... a pigsty might smell and abhorrent to us, it;s still home to the pig. Give Ukraine what it needs... not in half baked numbers too.

Question, do you truly believe that?
Believe what? That both parties must come to the table to negotiate peace? Of course.
 
I'm pretty sure there were US citizens prior 2022 invasion. But for some reason people are expected to believe that mining executives wouldn't be evacuated before the start of hostilities like last time?
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Anyway. According to the news about today, there's reason to be optimistic about the peace process/plan, or the fact that there will be one finally. But its still possible that Russia simply says no, now that they've basically seen all of the cards the west has to offer.
 
PAX Americana was destroyed by some "not so far sighted" people to say it lightly with no clue on global politics and its repercussions for the future.

Maybe this was even a turning point we will see.

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Ah and also this... Trumpski admin forgot what the US stands/was standing for...

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Today they admire Putin....

Well lets move on without them. Have fun with your new friend Putin and his great Russian empire.

Can sit down together and insult evil Ukraine for all what they did...to poor honest Russia...isn't it?
 
Its a yes or no. I know your stance with regards to what he said. Now do you truly believe that the US is harder on Israel than it is to Ukraine?
Biden seemed pretty tough on Israel when they entered Gaza. He withheld weapons and applied political pressure. Are you saying that didn't happen?

Yes or no.
 
Biden seemed pretty tough on Israel when they entered Gaza. He withheld weapons and applied political pressure. Are you saying that didn't happen?

Yes or no.
Oh he did indeed, he never threatened to pull out full support and asked for Israel's raw materials with no guarantees though. Matter of fact

And that's Israel fighting guys armed with sling shots, a beard and what we would call in asia... fireworks.

Still havent answered my simple question.
 
Trump jr said it supply guns to Russia. This is what Trump wants to say that he's allied himself with with Putin. Hopes to split Russia fom China a little bit.
If China goes for Taiwan and despite signing away Taiwans sovereignty years ago the US now finds itelf as war with a nuke super power over it, same time Russia will for sure go for Baltics and or Ukraine.
This is the only grain of possible logic.
 
I'm pretty sure there were US citizens prior 2022 invasion. But for some reason people are expected to believe that mining executives wouldn't be evacuated before the start of hostilities like last time?
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Anyway. According to the news about today, there's reason to be optimistic about the peace process/plan, or the fact that there will be one finally. But its still possible that Russia simply says no, now that they've basically seen all of the cards the west has to offer.
I have a feeling that......within days, Z asks to come back and sign that agreement. Maybe wearing a suit, maybe not. Maybe there is no chance for peace.

If so, Europe has a problem.
 
Oh he did indeed, he never threatened to pull out full support and asked for Israel's raw materials with no guarantees though. Matter of fact

And that's Israel fighting guys armed with sling shots, a beard and what we would call in asia... fireworks.

Still havent answered my simple question.
He didn't? Seems like he did.

I know that you are against this agreement. Especially if it benefits the US in any way or it helps shorten this war. I'm not really sure if you are even interested in shortening or ending this war, to be quite candid. It seems you are always bringing in the angle of what's good for China, and that's fine, but be honest about it.

It's okay to be pro-China and anti-US. But don't pretend you're not.
 
Trump jr said it supply guns to Russia. This is what Trump wants to say that he's allied himself with with Putin. Hopes to split Russia fom China a little bit.
If China goes for Taiwan and despite signing away Taiwans sovereignty years ago the US now finds itelf as war with a nuke super power over it, same time Russia will for sure go for Baltics and or Ukraine.
This is the only grain of possible logic.
Why are you saying Taiwan will be a war between China and the US? The Taiwanese population is more worried about the Trump tariffs and if they will be the next Ukraine.

Hell, my country who ass licks the US every chance it gets is getting government heads to re think our defense policy and global stance.... we arent even in the top 20 of US Aid. Is our "MDT" with the US worth as much as a used toilet paper in a truck stop? For this one, I actually thank Trump.
 
I got the same sense hearing him talk about land. Russia keeps Crimea and gives some land back, he specifically mention the words "sea line"
The "sea line" is in regards to which parts of Ukraine russia wants to occupy directly: all oblasts bordering russia (using the Dnepr as a defensive line), all of Donbas (resources) and the entire Black Sea coast (cutting Ukraine of from the sea, creating a land connection with russian forces in Transnistria, pressuring Moldova and opening up another attack vector on Romania and Bulgaria). What is then left is a landlocked puppet state of western Ukraine that is fully dependent on russia.
 
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I have a feeling that......within days, Z asks to come back and sign that agreement. Maybe wearing a suit, maybe not. Maybe there is no chance for peace.

If so, Europe has a problem.
No security, explain why there is any merit.
 

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