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I always understood the ‘German deal’ was to keep the industrial/manufacturing/bmw going. This kept the German volk happy, and not thinking of lands to the east. Against this deal, Shultz looks sensible. It was never going to be Germany that solved Ukraine/Russia. It’s just to the rest of us, it looks weak, supportive of Russia etc.@Fluff
If you ask me, Joe Biden and Jake Sullivan thought they could manage this situation like the Russo-Afghan War or the Vietnam War (from a Russian perspective). They feared a global escalation should their enemy be soundly defeated (according to Bob Woodward a realistic possibility in October 2022), but they couldn't let Putin win either. So, they decided to boil the frog i.e. doing just enough to draw the Russians further and further in until they'd collapse.
Of course, Biden was also influenced by public opinion in America. Recently, 51% polled against sending arms to Ukraine, so it's safe to say Biden would've felt like he couldn't risk a decisive Russian defeat with all its military and financial implications.
As for Germany, that's a different matter altogether. Olaf Scholz is a disgusting opportunist without any foreign policy vision whatsoever. He only cared about keeping his administration together. You could follow the balance of power in that precarious coalition in real time based on Berlin's Ukraine policy. Whenever Germany did help, Scholz had just lost a power struggle.
A global escalation of who to do what? If Russia lost then ‘Russia’ as we know it is gone. If Russia lost China is more unlikely to launch its mostly Russian based tanks, aircraft and presumably tactics against the team that won d-day, Iraq, falklands etc.
For sure Russia collapsing will lead to migrants into Europe, China into the east of Russia, chaos in the stans, nukes on ebay, etc. so there is probably an arguement that it is a lesser evil to keep Russia tied down in Ukraine. But morally that sucks.
I really think we will see the fall of Russia. Given we saw the fall of the ussr, how is this so bad? We would have to throw money at Russia, to send the nukes to us, to clean up, etc. but that’s cheap compared to 200k dead nato troops, and 1m Russian troops plus 20m Russian civilians.