Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[surfpunk]

I don't know what you are talking about then.

I was talking about the picture of "dudes" in full gear lying down on a pier.



No "z" markings either.

Could very well be one used by the Separatists or one captured by the Ukrainian in the Donbas.

We can see a unit marking on one of the era bricks in the 2nd picture.

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my apologies.

 

[Nansouty]

A general map of what's going on. Caveat emptor, I don't guarantee it's accurate but it matches what can be gathered atm

map by miladvisor

the map itself

 

[Ivan le Fou]

my apologies.

It's okay, don't worry.

As long as there are no insults thrown left and right, we are good!

 

[Fluff]

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you always need another grease gun.....

 

[Hiryu2.0]

Countries worldwide send military aid to Ukraine

In a memorandum to Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Biden directed that $350 million allocated through the Foreign Assistance Act be designated for Ukraine's defense.

www.jpost.com

 

[nemipuka_]

Looks like some Spetsnaz units decided to address the Ukrainian forces:

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Translation: We’re not Americans, we don’t bring you ‘democracy’. If you have it, it’ll stay that way. Ukraine remains Ukrainian. In the near future, we will remove the power of the regime that sells you to foreigners. Don't waste your lives for this rot, save them for your country & your loved ones. Your regime is Calling Russia an enemy & inviting NATO here, they left us no choice. We are not enemies. A little more and you will be convinced of this. Don't engage and we won't engage you.

 

[Volk01]

tough times are coming for Mariupol apparently. i dont think ukrainians can afford a catastrophic loss, i am guessing they should have considered retreating. they risk being encircled soon.

 

[surfpunk]

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[Fluff]

Whats needed now is European countries announcing more ATGW and manpads, plus medical aid, food etc. Basically give Russia the message that this isnt ending for them.

And no providing weapons to the legitimate government is not a war crime, nor anything else.

If anyone wants a laugh, on Linkedin picture of Zelasny, load of germans arguing that we should just hug trees, be nice etc etc. Germany really needs to get a grip.

 

[Chazman]

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Javelin versus grillcage..

Javelin: Cage? What cage?

 

[Nansouty]

Turkey is threatening to dump the Montreux convention and to prevent Russian warships from entering the Black Sea. This would be a huge development, possibly, unless the Russians already have at hand all the naval assets they need. Any to these reports a few days ago that Putin had moved a lot of amphibs there?

 

[Faheka]

Turkey is threatening to dump the Montreux convention and to prevent Russian warships from entering the Black Sea. This would be a huge development, possibly, unless the Russians already have at hand all the naval assets they need. Any to these reports a few days ago that Putin had moved a lot of amphibs there?

According to the Montreux agreement, we cannot stop it. I mentioned it a few posts ago. In fact, let me give you additional information, Turkey has closed the straits to the Russian warships. According to the 21st article of the agreement, if the Russian warship belongs to the Black Sea fleet, it has to pass. In order to close it completely, Turkey and Russia must be in a state of war. It is an ambiguous situation because it is impossible.

 

[Mike1976]

This is major news. If Putin faces enough internal pressure, it could give him the face-saving option of declaring the destructions wreaked on Ukraine so far a "mission accomplished" á la Bush 2003. It wouldn't end the conflict, but it might be enough for a cease-fire.

He has gone all-in. Anything less than total victory will mean a disgrace. Totalitarians can't afford to finish in 2nd place.

They did not get their lessons learned from the initial stage of Barbarossa when they had a fvckton of tanks without adequate supplies, fuel and well-trained crews, so they had to abandon them.

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S**t like that boggles my mind. I can understand combat vehicles getting separated and lost during the battle, happens. But the fact they abandon or lose tanks and APCs with their crews on march is beyond my comprehension.

Guys if you want to believe that Russia does not have fuel or food for their professional army

An offensive starts with artillery and tanks, but is sustained by trucks --> logistics. And I suspect that is lacking here, and the reason why the Russians seem to be holding back formations. Because likely they knew, or realized early on that they can't resupply their first line well enough, never mind the exploitation forces.

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That UKR BUK unit was destroyed yesterday, apparently Russian helicopters destroyed them... It is wierd that BUK were on trailer ...

The main reasons for putting a tracked vehicle on a trailer is either because of redeployment over a large distance, or because the vehicle can't move under it's own power. I suspect the vehicle suffered a mechanical failure resulting in a mobility kill. The launcher represents more military value than the trailer, so it's a worthwile risk to try to haul it back to a maintenance depot.

there is another country that is going to do the same thing.... an attempt to 'accidentally' get drawn into the fight?

Art. 5 only applies to NATO territory. What NATO members do on neutral ground is their own business. Non-"Provocations" like this only exist in the minds of Russians who have thrown that word around so often in the last decade that it has lost all meaning.

From Putin's speech they consider the mere existence of Ukraine a provokatsiya.

 

[Picanha]

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Thats a powerful picture.

 

[Dercius]

Whos going to be left holding the bag at Mariupol? Thats going to be a good question. I would even be more worried in case of a general evacuation. Going on a retreat axis that is going to be targeted by CAS, arty and helos, and the only AD available provided by Manpads... sorry, but thats kind of waaaay too Iraki thing for my taste

 

[ao_sepia]

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like in a Baltic countries after fall of Soviet!

 

[Mike1976]

Whos going to be left holding the bag at Mariupol? Thats going to be a good question. I would even be more worried in case of a general evacuation. Going on a retreat axis that is going to be targeted by CAS, arty and helos, and the only AD available provided by Manpads... sorry, but thats kind of waaaay too much Iraki thing for my taste

Me too. Though one of the main targets of a potential invasion by Russian forces has always been considered to be Mariupol. Simply handing it over without a fight would imo be playing into the hands of the Russians. Leaving light infantry to defend it and tie up large numbers of troops to besiege or take it would be ideal. If other forces can even retreat from the place at this point under the circumstances you mentioned.

I wonder how the Ukrainian tanks are doing considering they have quite a lot of them and they're fighting what appears to be mostly mechanized units rather than pure armoured ones.

 

[Fluff]

 

[Volk01]

Serious question, would if have been that difficult to prevent the russians from passing over from Crimea? 8 years time to prepare and they are pouring out like crazy. yeah, there were a lot of troops on the peninsula but there are not that many ways to come into the mainland...

 

[Mike1976]

Serious question, would if have been that difficult to prevent the russians from passing over from Crimea? 8 years time to prepare and they are pouring out like crazy. yeah, there were a lot of troops on the peninsula but there are not that many ways to come into the mainland...

Depends on where the Ukrainians put their defensive emphasis. On the one hand it makes sense to try to control that funnel, shooting fish in a barrel, but on the other hand the defenders would be in range of every Russian artillery system as well as the ships of the Black Sea fleet and open to a flanking move by naval landings. Fortifying a few population centers in the south and setting up a general defensive line behind the Dnieper might have been considered a safer alternative.