Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[Chazman]

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[Gordus]

Russia is militarily much stronger than European nations, and it could easily take the Baltics and or other countries at will if it wasn't for NATO to serve as a deterrent.

Agree with the rest, but completely disagree on that one.
Disregarding nuclear weapons, single small countries like Baltics may not have a realistic chance on their own. But collectively Europe would kick Russia's butt and the mutual defense clause would be enacted if Russia attacked any European country, regardless of NATO membership. So inevitably, it would be a war against the whole of EU anyway. Even if NATO didn't exist.

 

[Hiryu2.0]

allegedly brimstone

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[Minimalist]

I remember there was a big article about how sanctions had halted military production across Russia keeping them from supplying more equipment to the front.

only 10 units), it means nothing for such a wide war. Maybe it's leftovers.

 

[Mike1976]

only 10 units), it means nothing for such a wide war. Maybe it's leftovers.

It's a morale boost. "Look we're still able to produce new things!" (just don't ask about the long term ability)

600-1000 tanks destroyed depending on the particular source means that these tanks represent 1 day worth of replacements for lost vehicles.

We're currently at day 86.

 

[Chomiq]

Lady hosting the show is ready to drink the kool-aid:

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That retired colonel? Not so much.

 

[Mike1976]

Lady hosting the show is ready to drink the kool-aid:

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That retired colonel? Not so much.

Probably because he can imagine what it's like being stuck in a tank and being relieved that the fire is creeping towards the rounds so at least you're not going to burn alive. Send her to the frontline if she likes it so much.

No complaints about Russian media from Ivan, but he's always so concerned about the sabre rattling of US media

 

[Fluff]

It is certainly not up to Macron or any other to suggest territory concessions without the approval of Ukraine. And given Zelensky' s message on May 8th, he mentions Crimea in territories he wants back and so does the head of Ukrainian intelligence.

I don' t like this talk about humiliating Russia or something. A war has objectives, when you get them, then basically you won. What will Ukraine do when reaching back her borders? Should it be pursued into Russia to completely knock out Russian armed forces?

It is totally legit for the Ukrainians to not give a sh!t about how Russians feel or the political future of Russia. It is legit for western leaders to refrain from proposing concessions Ukraine does not want to give. It is also legit for western leaders to see with Zelensky what he considers as his objectives and also in full confidentiality provide the limits of the military and financial support: Donbass sure, Donbass+Crimea Okaaay, Donbass+Crimea+Rostov+Belgorod No

EDIT: I do not believe a DMZ is an achievable objective. I may be wrong but a DMZ inside Russian territory seems totally impossible.

Russia was invited to negotiate several times, and didnt really partake.

Until Russia asks for negotiations, and even then, no ceasefire should be agreed. Russia can withdraw the 20km or so back within a few hours, if it chooses.

As for Ukr pushing into russia, at the moment yes, it would apply pressure to Russia to withdraw in the Ukranianian areas it still holds. Ukraine could even make that clear, that it will withdraw rapidly, the moment Russia withdraws.

Honestly I dont think anyone can predict what will happen in Russia. And as to any suggestion Ukr or the west should care about Putin, give it up. Also Putin is going to go/fall at some point, this is the problem with 'one party/person rulers'. I also think this is reflected, at the beginning there were calls for him to go, now not so much, from western leaders. The west has actively deposed leaders in the past, it hasnt really gone well. Anything inside Russia is not our business, only the Russians can sort out Russia.

If Putin goes, then at that point(after withdrawal from Ukr and a peace deal and reparations/gas deal) then the west should give pointers to good behaviour, so free election, gets you 20% of gas back into EU, etc.

 

[Fluff]

only 10 units), it means nothing for such a wide war. Maybe it's leftovers.

just the bits left over, probably robbed other tanks to complete what they could. Given they cant build cars with ABS, airbags, emission control etc. (I doubt they can build any car - you cant just remove emmision control from your car - legally it will not start......) they wont be able to build tanks or anything else....

 

[Chazman]

only 10 units), it means nothing for such a wide war. Maybe it's leftovers.

About 20 hours worth.....

 

[Fluff]

Greta will be pleased:

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[Connaught Ranger]

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[Connaught Ranger]

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[AtlanticFriend]

Problem is, if we pursue this logic, then there is no time to push for a negotiated end to the conflit, ever : if it's too dangerous to do it when Russia is "losing" (and so far I don't see Russia losing, but rather failing), then when? I doubt a winning Russia would be interested.

 

[Connaught Ranger]

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[primer]

Earlier is was posted that these kleptomaniacs were going to take the surplus grain... So we can now see what that is.

 

[Picanha]

While reading some enemy forums I saw them indulging in their cluelessness of weapon systems basically comparing a Brimstone to a Javelin. ?

News flash there is no "real" data for you ?


But some Russian tankers may find out soon.

Time to test the concept...

 

[Connaught Ranger]

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[Mike1976]

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[TheKiwi]

allegedly brimstone

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More fake news propaganda. The Kalibr et. Al. missile strikes have destroyed Ukraine's rail systems and fuel supplies so there is no way these could reach the front lines. [/sarcasm]