Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.
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Yes and no. From purely military point of view neither Hamas nor Hezbollah are even in the same weight category with IDF (to this day BTW it boggles my mind all kind of western "experts" doubting IDF capacity to deal with Hamas at the beginning of the war).
However. Without going into specifics, if 7/10 type of attack was conducted from the West Bank, it wouldn't be a few Kibutzes and military bases in the Envelope... it would be the Tel Aviv metropolis, Kirya (Israel Pentagon) etc - an entirely different type of event. Not a hyperbole, not a fantasy, 100% possible scenario. The only things, which prevents this possibility becoming actual reality is the Israel control of the West Bank (via both military and settlements). This is BTW the main reason, why no one in Israeli politics, from right to left, is talking about settlement evacuation as part of any future political solution even as a theoretical possibility.
Hezbollah is a little bit different story. The job of Hezbollah, apart from being de-facto Iranian occupation force in Lebanon, is to serve as an insurance, a weapon of last resort (a kind of Cold War MAD logic) against possible Israel/Western attack against Iran, with all their 150K missiles and rockets pointed against our cities. Hezbollah is also more than capable for 7/10 type of attack in the north, this is why the war in Lebanon is 99.9% certainty at this point (I leave 0.1% for some political miracle I can't really imagine now). The only scenario, in which Hezbollah could represent anything resembling existential threat, is if they were part of coordinated attack with Hamas (both in Gaza and WB) and Syrian militias - a simultaneous attack on all four fronts. Alas, now, that half of IDF is in the north, they missed the opportunity...
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Oz Davidian took a different route each time as he made some 20 trips to Re'im, where Hamas terrorists overran the Nova rave and slaughtered partygoers
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Taliban, ZANLA, Viet Minh, IRA, Bolsheviks, Italian Fascists seriously the list goes on and on. Some of these groups were terrorist at one point, and then not at others.
Ho Chi Minh was probably best at understanding when an insurgent group needs to switch tactics from terror to open rebellion to politics.
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They are trying to negotiate an "exit" strategy for themselves. Something that pushes this back out of the headlines and stops meddling with their various goals.
Funny how they want that now, not when Hamas was firing thousands of rockets into Israel.
Also, not sure the Israelis would go for it. I think the Israelis would have more trust with countries around them that have skin in the game than with a force assigned objectives from the UN, US, EU.
Imagine you are on the ground in Gaza with a blue helmet and no magazine loaded in your rifle. Your operational objectives were dreamed up by a politician riding through the streets of (insert name of trashy city you don't like) in a limousine full of hookers and blow.
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You would have to divide Gaza into 8 blocks, with concrete walls, and 2 gates to the next area, full security, and cargo inspection at every point.
No Western nation would take it, its only going to be a hated job.
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Boy, very reminiscent of Fallujah.
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