Mil News Current Iran/Iraq/US Tensions and Actions Unfolding

[Fluff]

Anyone with a good deal of logical senses would conclude that the sole reason why Israel or the United States haven't attacked Iran thus far, is because both countries either lack the capabilities to undertake a complex operation that would be needed to significantly degrade Iran's nuclear infrastructure (in the case of Israel), or have become aware over the years that a conflict with the country is too costly, can easily spin out of control and would be plagued by questionable outcomes (in the case of the US).

You should be familiar with this one @Mardonius

Nasrudin shrugged. "Ah, my disciple, how little you know! I lot can change in a year. The Sultan could die of old age, or an assassin’s knife. He could be strangled in his harem by a jealous concubine. I could die, of disease or age. I might feel an urge to make the <i>hajj</i> and go to Mecca, and even the Sultan could not refuse me that. I could be laid low by a wasting sickness, or there could be a palace coup, or the Mongols may invade."

The US, or Israel, doesnt have to do anything yet. And lets face it, there are clearly things going on to delay Iran reaching nuclear weapon status.

 

[BCNTM]

You should be familiar with this one @Mardonius

Nasrudin shrugged. "Ah, my disciple, how little you know! I lot can change in a year. The Sultan could die of old age, or an assassin’s knife. He could be strangled in his harem by a jealous concubine. I could die, of disease or age. I might feel an urge to make the <i>hajj</i> and go to Mecca, and even the Sultan could not refuse me that. I could be laid low by a wasting sickness, or there could be a palace coup, or the Mongols may invade."

The US, or Israel, doesnt have to do anything yet. And lets face it, there are clearly things going on to delay Iran reaching nuclear weapon status.

And if they do come close will someone then think - lets get in there first

 

[Mardonius]

One of the most significant strategic developments of the past decades in the Middle East: American military facilities and bases in the Persian Gulf have become so vulnerable due to Iran's ballistic missile force, that the US is now scouting potential dual-use facilities in western Saudi Arabia. Simply put: Iran is increasingly pushing the US away from the Persian Gulf area.

Saudis Expanding US Military Access to Airfields, Port, to Counter Iran

The U.S. military is expanding its ability to operate from Saudi Arabia in the event of a war with Iran, striking a preliminary arrangement with Riyadh to use various air bases and seaports in the country’s western regions.

The U.S. military has long kept a host of military assets and thousands of troops in Gulf kingdoms on the eastern flank of Saudi Arabia, including at permanent bases in Qatar, Kuwait, the UAE, and elsewhere. But Iran’s ballistic missiles have improved, those bases have become increasingly vulnerable, analysts say.

In a conflict with Iran, the United States would be able to transport troops in and out of the region from the west, posture fighters and other aircraft further from Iran’s missile launchers, and “lily-pad” eastward into the fight, Gen. Frank McKenzie told reporters traveling with him to the region to inspect three of the new locations.

“The Arabian Gulf would be contested waters under any scenario of armed conflict with Iran, so you look at the places where you would move your forces as they enter the theater from being in a contested area,” McKenzie said. “Certainly the Red Sea, the western [part] of the Arabian peninsula presents those opportunities.”

Saudis Expanding US Military Access to Airfields, Port, to Counter Iran

The year-old initiative is intended to give CENTCOM “more options” in a fight, general reveals.

www.defenseone.com

 

[Fluff]

One of the most significant strategic developments of the past decades in the Middle East: American military facilities and bases in the Persian Gulf have become so vulnerable due to Iran's ballistic missile force, that the US is now scouting potential dual-use facilities in western Saudi Arabia. Simply put: Iran is increasingly pushing the US away from the Persian Gulf area.

Saudis Expanding US Military Access to Airfields, Port, to Counter Iran

The U.S. military is expanding its ability to operate from Saudi Arabia in the event of a war with Iran, striking a preliminary arrangement with Riyadh to use various air bases and seaports in the country’s western regions.

The U.S. military has long kept a host of military assets and thousands of troops in Gulf kingdoms on the eastern flank of Saudi Arabia, including at permanent bases in Qatar, Kuwait, the UAE, and elsewhere. But Iran’s ballistic missiles have improved, those bases have become increasingly vulnerable, analysts say.

In a conflict with Iran, the United States would be able to transport troops in and out of the region from the west, posture fighters and other aircraft further from Iran’s missile launchers, and “lily-pad” eastward into the fight, Gen. Frank McKenzie told reporters traveling with him to the region to inspect three of the new locations.

“The Arabian Gulf would be contested waters under any scenario of armed conflict with Iran, so you look at the places where you would move your forces as they enter the theater from being in a contested area,” McKenzie said. “Certainly the Red Sea, the western [part] of the Arabian peninsula presents those opportunities.”

Saudis Expanding US Military Access to Airfields, Port, to Counter Iran

The year-old initiative is intended to give CENTCOM “more options” in a fight, general reveals.

www.defenseone.com

Yes, its a good idea, to move out of range.

Where is Iran planning to move to?

 

[Mardonius]

Yes, its a good idea, to move out of range.

Where is Iran planning to move to?

Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. That basically covers the Persian Gulf, Red Sea all the way to the eastern Mediterranean.

In addition, I think you underestimate Iran's own size. See here a comparison to Europe:

 

[Fluff]

Yup, 80 million people, pretty good.

just a mo, NATO has, er, roughly, 1 billion.

should be a walk in the park....

 

[BCNTM]

Yup, 80 million people, pretty good.

just a mo, NATO has, er, roughly, 1 billion.

should be a walk in the park....

2-3m have left looking for a better future

 

[IDF_TANKER]

Is Israel in Secret Contact with Syria?

Syrian president Bashar Assad, who now views the Iranian presence in his country as a burden, wants to oust Tehran from Syrian soil—and he has come to realize that achieving that goal will require I

besacenter.org

Interesting development... if true.

 

[nicememe]

Is Israel in Secret Contact with Syria?

Syrian president Bashar Assad, who now views the Iranian presence in his country as a burden, wants to oust Tehran from Syrian soil—and he has come to realize that achieving that goal will require I

besacenter.org

Interesting development... if true.

super mega if

For me the following issue seems evident:
Ousting Iran = antagonizing Iran.

Iran in many ways is an air corridor for Russian missiles and bombers in case Syria gets a second case of the arab springies.
The plan described in the article sounds more like a fantasy in which Assad is willingly cutting himself and his country from life support, because he's convinced he has everything under control, and nobody will backstab him. Sounds unlikely.

 

[Mardonius]

This could very well mean two things:

1) Israeli disinformation with support from the Gulf to further bolster Iranian paranoia, or a way to let the Syrians indirectly know that they are willing to provide financial assistance if Damascus distances itself from Iran.

2) Damascus trying to deceit the Gulf/Israel by suggesting that there is increasing disagreement between itself and Tehran in order to draw much-needed financial support, or a way to play both sides to advance its own interests.

Otherwise, why would a usually disciplined and tight-lipped Israel publicize such contact?

Either way, even if Assad has suddenly grown some kind of animosity to Iran's presence, he will find it difficult to uproot a well-entrenched posture of Iranian-allied forces and influence in his country.

I find it much more believable that Assad first wants to see how the upcoming negotiations between Iran and the US are going to evolve.

 

[Fluff]

This could very well mean two things:

1) Israeli disinformation with support from the Gulf to further bolster Iranian paranoia, or a way to let the Syrians indirectly know that they are willing to provide financial assistance if Damascus distances itself from Iran.

2) Damascus trying to deceit the Gulf/Israel by suggesting that there is increasing disagreement between itself and Tehran in order to draw much-needed financial support, or a way to play both sides to advance its own interests.

Otherwise, why would a usually disciplined and tight-lipped Israel publicize such contact?

Either way, even if Assad has suddenly grown some kind of animosity to Iran's presence, he will find it difficult to uproot a well-entrenched posture of Iranian-allied forces and influence in his country.

I find it much more believable that Assad first wants to see how the upcoming negotiations between Iran and the US are going to evolve.

Either way, I wouldnt want to be an iranian grunt in Syria......

 

[Mardonius]

Either way, I wouldnt want to be an iranian grunt in Syria......

So would I, if I were you...

 

[Dercius]

As per reports on twatter, Air raid sirens sounding in Tehran... God helps any civilian airliner who happens to be up there.

 

[BCNTM]

As per reports on twatter, Air raid sirens sounding in Tehran... God helps any civilian airliner who happens to be up there.

Iran ‘air raid sirens sounded’ as flights diverted from Tehran

AIR RAID SIRENS were sounded across the Shahrara and Marzdaran areas of Tehran in Iran as flights were diverted from the capital.

www.express.co.uk

looks like they are trying hard not to shoot down civilian airliners this time

 

[Deleted member 11302]

The regime comes up with these fantastical claims to gloss over two inconvenient facts: Firstly, that they're absolutely incompetent even in securing themselves; Secondly, that for such assassinations to work the foreign perpetrator requires a substantial number of local collaborators.

Talking about satellite-guided machine guns enables the regime to avoid facing up to their ineptitude and the deep seated hatred of many Iranians against them.

I'll take the liberty to quote myself from another thread since I called it, actually:

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The regime can't even keep its own goons from collaborating with the evil Zionists, so sad...

 

[Fluff]

I'll take the liberty to quote myself from another thread since I called it, actually:

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The regime can't even keep its own goons from collaborating with the evil Zionists, so sad...

So the robots were innocent??

Can we put them back together?

 

[Mike1976]

I'll take the liberty to quote myself from another thread since I called it, actually:

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The regime can't even keep its own goons from collaborating with the evil Zionists, so sad...

Thank you for the best laugh I've had in quite a while ?

As often the simplest answer is usually the most likely. Robots smuggled into the country and controlled from space? A team of assassins that infiltrated Iran, figured out the modus operandi of Iranian security services, carried out the hit and then melted away back to Israel?

Nope, an inside job.

The only certainty was that Iran was going to lie about it like they always do to hide their own incompetence. The Terminator being sent back in time to stop the great nation of Iran, the heroic last stand of the security detail who killed many Zionists before drawing their last breath as they clasp the flag in one hand and the Quran in the other.

Who is their propaganda minister? Jerry Bruckheimer? ?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

That level of incompetence is... it's bordering on the professional mastery!

It's art!

 

[Deleted member 11302]

Thank you for the best laugh I've had in quite a while ?

As often the simplest answer is usually the most likely. Robots smuggled into the country and controlled from space? A team of assassins that infiltrated Iran, figured out the modus operandi of Iranian security services, carried out the hit and then melted away back to Israel?

Nope, an inside job.

The only certainty was that Iran was going to lie about it like they always do to hide their own incompetence. The Terminator being sent back in time to stop the great nation of Iran, the heroic last stand of the security detail who killed many Zionists before drawing their last breath as they clasp the flag in one hand and the Quran in the other.

Who is their propaganda minister? Jerry Bruckheimer? ?

Well, Schwarzenegger is a Biden supporter, so I'd wager he would actually wind up on the side of the Mullahs.

 

[Fluff]