Mil News Current Iran/Iraq/US Tensions and Actions Unfolding

[Fluff]

Did you even bother to read the article? These fortifications are by no means unprotected. They have been designed to withstand nuclear blasts.

did you understand my point, I will expand, for the class.

the weapons I mentioned are conventional- nuclear are great for area destruction, for secret bunkers not so good.

secondly, I'm talking about air defence, ground defence, able to withstand 100 cruise missiles? Stealth missiles,? repeatedly? How about conventionally armed ballistics? The defences will be taken out, then the bunker pounded to dust, if anyone of any importance ever takes offence.

Maybe you dont notice, but most countries stopped building castles about 1200 years ago.....

The missiles on trucks are a bit better, but now you told everyone where they are based.....

 

[Fluff]

I was just going to post this - some people never learn from history

La Coupole - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All the B2's have now had the bomb racks updated to carry the revised 'earthquake' bombs

PS 'Rod from god' - would also make a real mess of a fixed fortification

Rods from gods dont exist. I got this from the daily enquirer, they asked some guy at the pentagon.....

Of course, one day I may need to change my view.......

 

[BCNTM]

Did you even bother to read the article? These fortifications are by no means unprotected. They have been designed to withstand nuclear blasts.

Good luck with trying to take them out while your air bases in the region are effectively under fire of barrage of missiles.

Rod from God

You might get one barrage off - but remember what would come back

Again you don't learn from history - Japanese thought they were clever attacking Pearl Harbour - that worked out really well

 

[Fluff]

Did you even bother to read the article? These fortifications are by no means unprotected. They have been designed to withstand nuclear blasts.

Good luck with trying to take them out while your air bases in the region are effectively under fire of barrage of missiles.

This was one day - D Day. you may have heard of it.

Please dont underestimate the capability of USA and its allies. Hitler did, Tojo did, some Italian did too.

Should it ever be needed, those bases wouldnt even be used. They would operate defensive flights for the first week, then used to fly humanitarian aid into Iran.

 

[Mardonius]

did you understand my point, I will expand, for the class.

the weapons I mentioned are conventional- nuclear are great for area destruction, for secret bunkers not so good.

secondly, I'm talking about air defence, ground defence, able to withstand 100 cruise missiles? Stealth missiles,? repeatedly? How about conventionally armed ballistics? The defences will be taken out, then the bunker pounded to dust, if anyone of any importance ever takes offence.

Maybe you dont notice, but most countries stopped building castles about 1200 years ago.....

The missiles on trucks are a bit better, but now you told everyone where they are based.....

Tell me more about how these heavily (mountainous) fortifications are pounded to dust while they are way too deep underground.

We aren't living in the '90s any more. Iran has access to precision-missile guided capabilities, which means that the enemy bases in the vicinity of Iran will be made non-functional in case of an attack. There is a reason why the Americans are now starting to switch their C2 headquarters of their AF to US soil in stead of the Qatar.

Warships in the Persian Gulf will be hounted down by kamikaze boats (used by the houthis in Yemen), cruise missiles, kamikaze drones, etc. There is a reason why the yanks did not dare to sail their AC in the Persian Gulf the last time both countries nearly went to war.

China, North-Korea and Russia have the same kind of structures in place. Spare me your castle-building lectures.

 

[BCNTM]

Rods from gods dont exist. I got this from the daily enquirer, they asked some guy at the pentagon.....

Of course, one day I may need to change my view.......

Already used the small one to get rid of some scum - without too much collateral damage

" In June 2020, a senior Al Qaeda leader was killed by a kinetic weapon (a modified AGM-114 Hellfire missile) dropped by a United States Special Operations General Atomics MQ-1 Predator drone. The weapon reportedly weighed 100 pounds and contained 6 deployed blades to destroy the passenger vehicle that was targeted. "

 

[Fluff]

Ok, I'm only an armchair general, here's a real one:

 

[Fluff]

Fellas - I don’t have a dog in this fight but I’d have thought these photos threads by countries were meant to explain, show and narrate the military of such and such countries, instead of arguing about the military threats posed by the IRGC or the US.

I believe that we can take these discussions to the US/Iran tensions thread.

Happy to relocate, as long as covering fire is available......

 

[Mardonius]

Ok, I'm only an armchair general, here's a real one:
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Different era; different kind of fortifications. Try again.

 

[BCNTM]

Happy to relocate, as long as covering fire is available......

You just need plenty of photoshop cover.............

 

[Mardonius]

Fellas - I don’t have a dog in this fight but I’d have thought these photos threads by countries were meant to explain, show and narrate the military of such and such countries, instead of arguing about the military threats posed by the IRGC or the US.

I believe that we can take these discussions to the US/Iran tensions thread.

Iran is the only country in the world where these butthurt sentiments of envy will fire up users to make asinine comments in its national thread. Its like its ability to be independent; its creativity and its resourcefulness instantly makes these clowns to degrade its achievements. You don't see me running around in threads of other countries to mock their productions and weaponry, and claim that this or that country has the ability to nullify them in case of war.

Perhaps I was wrong to spend energy on this forum considering the lack of knowledge of users and the tendency for clownish behaviour. Time to move on then. Good luck with your little bubble and echo chamber.

 

[Fluff]

I'll bring this in here, from another thread.

@Mardonius

I appreciate english may not be your first language, but the use of the word monument, implies/references all fixed fortifications including old ones(which have now become monuments), and again implies that this will remain true well into the future, for newly built fortifications.

Any way, other than that, I think I answered your points, the world doesnt sit still, witness the armenian/Azeri conflict, the guys in the bunker need to breath, get water etc, once their air defence is taken out, drones will pound every vent, outlet, inlet, power line within 100 miles, fuel line etc.

Its a white elephant, really its lovely, the idea, and the scale, but it wont win a war against a higher power, nor deter one.

 

[Fluff]

Iran is the only country in the world where these butthurt sentiments of envy will fire up users to make asinine comments in its national thread. Its like its ability to be independent; its creativity and its resourcefulness instantly makes these clowns to degrade its achievements. You don't see me running around in threads of other countries to mock their productions and weaponry, and claim that this or that country has the ability to nullify them in case of war.

Perhaps I was wrong to spend energy on this forum considering the lack of knowledge of users and the tendency for clownish behaviour. Time to move on then. Good luck with your little bubble and echo chamber.

I got ya -

 

[Jake84]

Mardonius apparently bid farewell to the forum so I doubt you’ll get a response. Well I tried to put things in perspective and have the arguments all gathered in the right thread but instead managed to make him run away from this place.

For reference peers, I believe that he’s indeed a bit of a point that the threads about the National Military of whatever countries are best left without too much bickering. It can be tempting to be snarky and cheeky, it’s better to do so in the designated threads for it.

 

[Fluff]

Mardonius apparently bid farewell to the forum so I doubt you’ll get a response. Well I tried to put things in perspective and have the arguments all gathered in the right thread but instead managed to make him run away from this place.

For reference peers, I believe that he’s indeed a bit of a point that the threads about the National Military of whatever countries are best left without too much bickering. It can be tempting to be snarky and cheeky, it’s better to do so in the designated threads for it.

Well I hope he comes back, i don’t knock his dedication!

 

[morris]

Treasury Sanctions Procurement Network Supplying Iranian Military Firm

International network procured electronic components for sanctioned Iranian military firm WASHINGTON – Today, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) designated a network of six companies and four individuals that facilitated the procurement of sensitive...

home.treasury.gov

Today, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) designated a network of six companies and four individuals that facilitated the procurement of sensitive goods, including U.S.-origin electronic components, for Iran Communication Industries (ICI), an Iranian military firm designated by the United States in 2008 and by the European Union in 2010 for being owned or controlled by Iran’s Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics (MODAFL), the overall manager and coordinator of Iran’s ballistic missile program. ICI, a subsidiary of Iran Electronics Industries, which falls under MODAFL, produces various items including military communication systems, avionics, information technology, electronic warfare, and missile launchers.

 

[Deleted member 11302]

Iran is the only country in the world where these butthurt sentiments of envy will fire up users to make asinine comments in its national thread. Its like its ability to be independent; its creativity and its resourcefulness instantly makes these clowns to degrade its achievements. You don't see me running around in threads of other countries to mock their productions and weaponry, and claim that this or that country has the ability to nullify them in case of war.

If I ever needed confirmation that you are just another pro Islamic Republic troll you just delivered it. That "Independence-creativity-resourcefulness" slogan stinks so pungently of Islamic Republic state television I can almost see the newsreader in her hijab. The Mullah dips#!ts have managed to plunge all of Iran into economic misery and abject poverty using exactly those r€tarded types of "independence & creativity" slogans.

@All, do you want to know why according to Iranian environmental experts a staggering 50 million Iranians might soon find themselves without potable water? Iran used to be the one middle eastern country with substantial groundwater resources, but Ahmanidenjad, the "President" who wanted to wipe Israel off the map, pursued a policy of agricultural independence and simply allowed any and all two-bit farmers to drill as many deep groundwater wells as they wanted and perfectly in line with the drive for "independence" they are now growing RICE(!) in the deserts surrounding Esfahan. Thus, Iran's groundwater has become severly depleted within a decade with rivers drying up all across the country. The IRGC exacerbates this situation by building unneccessary dams across the nation to make money for themselves and nothing else. As if any country in the world is completely independent from trading goods and services with other nations! There never was such a nation, nor will there ever be. BTW, the environmental expert who blew the whistle on the water issue was quickly censored and threatened.

Perhaps I was wrong to spend energy on this forum considering the lack of knowledge of users and the tendency for clownish behaviour. Time to move on then. Good luck with your little bubble and echo chamber.

Yeah that's also typical when you run into resistance and can't have people who oppose your views arrested or harrassed by the Bassij you need to make a run for it, let's hope that soon applies to all of Iran. BTW, you want to see a country that is technologically independent and economically stable relying on the creativity and resourcefulness of its people? I suggest you look at South Korea, the ROK was usually named alongside Iran as the emerging industrial power houses of the 60s-70s. I guess it pays dividends not have a country crawling with muslim fanatics...

 

[Mike1976]

An Iranian nuclear scientist, supposedly one of the brains behind their nuclear weapons program, was assassinated near Teheran.

Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, Iran's top nuclear scientist, assassinated near Tehran

Iran's foreign minister has condemned the killing of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh "as an act of state terror".

www.bbc.co.uk

Step one is of course to blame the Jews.

 

[Chazman]

An Iranian nuclear scientist, supposedly one of the brains behind their nuclear weapons program, was assassinated near Teheran.

Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, Iran's top nuclear scientist, assassinated near Tehran

Iran's foreign minister has condemned the killing of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh "as an act of state terror".

www.bbc.co.uk

Step one is of course to blame the Jews.

Mossad? Saudi Secret Police? Both?

 

[Cron]

An Iranian nuclear scientist, supposedly one of the brains behind their nuclear weapons program, was assassinated near Teheran.

Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, Iran's top nuclear scientist, assassinated near Tehran

Iran's foreign minister has condemned the killing of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh "as an act of state terror".

www.bbc.co.uk

Step one is of course to blame the Jews.

Time to buy shares in Conagra Brands!