Politics Wokism/Woke/World gone crazy

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Old (2017) but gold and still very relevant … a nice take on wokeness. Having said that, and at the risk of crossing some of our resident conservatives, many of his comments also apply to the current state of the Republican Party and its supporters.

No one cares that you are sad

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Frankly speaking wokeness can be discussed to a nauseating extent, but to me it just seems like a natural process.
From Rodent Utopia to Urban Hell: Population, Pathology, and the Crowded Rats of NIMH on JSTOR

In a series of experiments at the National Institute of Mental Health, the animal ecologist John B. Calhoun offered rats everything they needed, except space. The resulting population explosion was followed by a series of “social pathologies”—violence, sexual deviance, and withdrawal. This essay examines the influence of Calhoun's experiments among psychologists and sociologists concerned with the effects of the built environment on health and behavior.

The natural endgame for a society that is well urbanized, with easy access to food and comfort, with no immediate threats to survival, is such society's self-destruction. And I think this has already occurred a few times in human history.

TLDR; you get too comfy for too long - you become crazy. Maybe that's nature's way of forcing a crisis to invigorate the survival instinct and prevent extinction.
 
Being entirely novel variables, the mass media and the internet make it difficult to compare current processes with earlier periods of history. They enable fractions of society to vastly overstate their importance thus greatly distorting our image of said society. There's this lovely German word I can't help but think about in this context: Scheinriese. In the 'Jim Knopf' books, the faux giant is a mythical creature that looks giant from afar but shrinks the closer you venture towards it.

Besides, there seems to be a thriving counter-movement that (I daresay) is carried by a silent majority, and I'm unsure whether anything of the like has ever existed before in a society beset by symptoms of disintegrating decadence. I might be wrong, of course. While history itself doesn't repeat itself the mistakes of humans most certainly do.
 
Please tell me this is a joke … The Canadian military actually gives out uniform insignia to be worn by gay military members "as a form of reparation for injustices historically committed against the community"?! Goodness gracious me.

Fremdschämen. Look it up. It's the most useful German loanword to ever find its way into the English language.
 
Please tell me this is a joke … The Canadian military actually gives out uniform insignia to be worn by gay military members "as a form of reparation for injustices historically committed against the community"?! Goodness gracious me.

Fremdschämen. Look it up. It's the most useful German loanword to ever find its way into the English language.
Looks cosha - that page on Wiki looks bigger than the American bill of Rights
 
Criticising the crap coming out of that guy's mouth seems reasonable enough. "They want your children"? Jesus.

Having said that, we have our own societies to blame for this kind of phenomenon. Why anyone would ascribe importance to what some celebrity has to say about stuff is beyond me. The only thing a musician or an actor would automatically be more knowledgable about than the average person is making music or acting. Odds are on any other subject they're as accurate or false as you or I.
Several retailers have also stopped selling his products today, including Bed Bath & Beyond, Kohls and Kroger.
That's the more shocking part as far as I'm concerned.
 
Criticising the crap coming out of that guy's mouth seems reasonable enough. "They want your children"? Jesus.

Having said that, we have our own societies to blame for this kind of phenomenon. Why anyone would ascribe importance to what some celebrity has to say about stuff is beyond me. The only thing a musician or an actor would automatically be more knowledgable about than the average person is making music or acting. Odds are on any other subject they're as accurate or false as you or I.
That's the more shocking part as far as I'm concerned.
it used be individuals boycotting companies/products, now its corporations boycotting individuals. maybe next his bank will refuse to handle his account, maybe the utilities company will no longer supply water and electric to his house and business, maybe hospitals and doctors can refuse to treat him or his family and employees.
maybe grocery stores can refuse to sell him food, or the post office refuse to deliver his mail.
maybe they can set up a system, where you can make some sort of atonement for your sins and have your privileges restored? a kind of public confession where you can demonstrate that you have abandoned your hate?
oh how I am looking forward to that day. everything will be so much better.
 
it used be individuals boycotting companies/products, now its corporations boycotting individuals. maybe next his bank will refuse to handle his account, maybe the utilities company will no longer supply water and electric to his house and business, maybe hospitals and doctors can refuse to treat him or his family and employees.
maybe grocery stores can refuse to sell him food, or the post office refuse to deliver his mail.
maybe they can set up a system, where you can make some sort of atonement for your sins and have your privileges restored? a kind of public confession where you can demonstrate that you have abandoned your hate?
oh how I am looking forward to that day. everything will be so much better.


Mind you, this is what is happening, or being pushed for, in the US following Trump leaving office.
-calls for the lawyers who defended him to be disbarred.
-calls for the senators and congressmen/women who supported him to resign.
-calls for "making lists".
-banks refusing loans or closing accounts, etc...

Last time I went to the US, and that wasn't "that" long ago (I came back to France last February before the global lockdown) I remember seeing shops, coffee-bars, restaurants with signs "we don't serve Trump supporters"/"Republicans are not welcome". Though mostly on the West coast.
 
Mind you, this is what is happening, or being pushed for, in the US following Trump leaving office.
-calls for the lawyers who defended him to be disbarred.
-calls for the senators and congressmen/women who supported him to resign.
-calls for "making lists".
-banks refusing loans or closing accounts, etc...

Last time I went to the US, and that wasn't "that" long ago (I came back to France last February before the global lockdown) I remember seeing shops, coffee-bars, restaurants with signs "we don't serve Trump supporters"/"Republicans are not welcome". Though mostly on the West coast.
...but if you are a christian baker, dont refuse to make a gay cake.
 
...but if you are a christian baker, dont refuse to make a gay cake.

O, the irony.

This has been the mantra of the conservative right for ages, namely that individuals and companies should have the right to refuse others consistent with their beliefs. But now that Twitter and other companies are enforcing their Terms of Services and such policy is biting y'all in the ass, suddenly every nutcase on the right is screaming murder.
 
Yeah...because the scale of one baker not wanting to make your cake is the same as economic death sentence from an oligopoly of major service providers.

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It seems to me that the big Western tech companies have been perfecting the rules, methods, and workflow of automated lockdown of the masses with their Chicom partners for a goodly number of years. Now they are turning those methods on the Western citizenry itself.
 
It seems to me that the big Western tech companies have been perfecting the rules, methods, and workflow of automated lockdown of the masses with their Chicom partners for a goodly number of years. Now they are turning those methods on the Western citizenry itself.

No but, you see, they are "private companies" they can "do whatever they want".
They are "like pubs", they can "serve you or not if they wish".
 
Yeah...because the scale of one baker not wanting to make your cake is the same as economic death sentence from an oligopoly of major service providers.

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It seems to me that the big Western tech companies have been perfecting the rules, methods, and workflow of automated lockdown of the masses with their Chicom partners for a goodly number of years. Now they are turning those methods on the Western citizenry itself.

I'm not sure why social media companies should take into account the possible financial damages that individuals suffer whenever they violate their terms of service and are subsequently banned from their platforms. They are private companies; deal with it.
 
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And I have never been a fan of censure or individuals getting banned from the likes of Twitter myself. I think it is an unhealthy trend that the left is rejoicing whenever powerful corporations go after individuals because one's political opinion is inconsistent with one's own; but I can understand why social media companies have in rules in place to prevent toxic individuals from abusing their platforms, which in this day and age could have significant societal ramifications.
 

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