Politics Wokism/Woke/World gone crazy

[Ivan le Fou]

Intoxicated people are unpredictable and hard to handle.
People with autism are unpredictable and hard to handle.

Intoxicated people with autism are unpredictable and hard to handle.

Add to that retarded provisions that allow the police to arrest people because of "suspicion of a homophobic public order offence".

What a joke.

 

[Gaz]

For the absolute life of me, I don't understand how "offence" is quantified to the point of being arrestable. Things that my mum finds offensive, I don't - so who do decides whether or not it's something that breaks the law? I just don't get it.

On the case of the 16 year old though - I don't have kids, but I have nieces and a nephew and can tell you with absolute certainty that their parents would never allow them to be in a city centre at midnight at that age. Let alone whilst intoxicated. Let alone whilst also being autistic.

We don't know the whole story and the kid could have done a runner from the parents. But we also don't know the whole story and don't know what preceded the public video.

 

[Redav]

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[droopy]

All i can think of is:

 

[Newtonk]

Haven't watched that arrest video because it'll just make me effing angry. The police force in question have released a statement saying that the officers had bodycams recording which "provide additional context". I honestly don't know what the rules on how bodycam footage gets released over here so no idea when/if it'll be seen by the public.
Seems they were in the house to begin with after the girls family had called the police since she was intoxicated and putting herself at risk in Leeds city centre after midnight and the police took her home.

Not suggesting for a moment the police were right to arrest her, but it certainly seems we're not seeing the whole story.

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Without being there, and I wasn't, you'll never get the whole story... But given the girl in question was now home with her family, Police could have de-escalated the situation by leaving, ignoring the taunt of you look like a lesbian, for a better result. As it stands, Officer Butch, see above, will be offered welfare for her hurty feelings, and the traumatized girl will hate Police as she will now associate the uniform with being dragged away from her family and locked up.

The body language of the office above says a lot, albeit a single frame from what is / was a very fluid and challenging situation.

 

[primer]

Former New Zealand Herald and Stuff columnist Rachel Stewart found herself on the wrong side of the new gun laws when in June her .22 rifle was confiscated following a Tweet she made.

Police went to her home without a warrant and handed her documentation telling her she was unfit to hold a licence, confiscating her gun and ammunition.

Police cited a specific tweet, as well as “consistent Twitter posts in which you demonstrate a tendency to exhibit hatred towards the transgender community”.

Stewart said the confiscation came six weeks after the Tweet and showed no urgency.

“How much of a threat was I if they waited that long to confiscate my firearms?”

After making a legal submission her firearms license was posted back a few weeks later."


....You get to a place where you can no longer point fingers at china.

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[primer]

Tauranga MP Sam Uffindell is under fire for comments that going to the supermarket once a month in his National jacket “looking like the everyday man” is excellent “publicity” and “gives my wife a break”.
The National MP was speaking in parliament in June in support of a Grocery Industry Competition Bill, but it was Uffindell’s comments about his own shopping habits that grabbed attention this week.
He said grocery shopping was "not only ... an excellent way to get a bit of publicity with a National Party jacket on my back, looking like the everyday man … it gives my wife a break, and I get to understand what the current prices are”.
Implications in the speech that it was a woman’s job to do chores have been mocked online and satirised.

Pretty much that's labours re-election campaign right there. "gives my wife a break" The grab them by the pu--y moment in NZ politics.

 

[Gaz]

Without being there, and I wasn't, you'll never get the whole story... But given the girl in question was now home with her family, Police could have de-escalated the situation by leaving, ignoring the taunt of you look like a lesbian, for a better result. As it stands, Officer Butch, see above, will be offered welfare for her hurty feelings, and the traumatized girl will hate Police as she will now associate the uniform with being dragged away from her family and locked up.

The body language of the office above says a lot, albeit a single frame from what is / was a very fluid and challenging situation.

Without knowing further details of what led to it, yeah - think it's stupid. But I don't know what led to it. I freely admit that I don't know what led to the rozzers being at her house - have heard the police statement talking about it, but nothing from the family, so I just don't know.

And as to the last, a mate took a picture of me whilst I was in the middle of scratching my arse, so by single frame examination of that incident - I like fingering my own arse. I think that's your point.

 

[muck]

In all fairness, gaz, if there were details that would make this arrest seem more justified, wouldn't the police have released them to the press at this point? What happened there does look weird and disproportionate. Heck, if that girl had hurled genuine abuse at the female officer it might have given the cops no choice under English law … but how is "you look like my lesbian nana" even abuse? What kind of cop goes ballistic about that?

As a volunteer paramedic now two years into the role, I've heard every cuss under the sun hurled against me by intoxicated or psychotic people. It just doesn't register anymore. And I've worked with so many cops at this point in that exact same situation that I'm confident in saying you wouldn't get dragged away by seven officers on this side of the North Sea just for verbally abusing an officer in a drunken state.

If the cop is in a foul mood and the person isn't too intoxicated to be criminally liable in the eye of the law, they might file for a penal order for insulting a peace officer; but they're not going to detain an otherwise non-violent drunk for swearing. That's just excessive. Especially if the person in question is mentally handicapped. The mother shouting "she's autistic" should've been the end of that entire episode.

 

[uktabber]

Why is that skanky butch turd telling anyone to do anything??!!! Who's she?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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The police only mentions the reason for the arrest being "suspicion of a homophobic public order offence".

In addition, she hasn't committed a "homophobic public order offence" since it happened in her own house.
Also, being compared to "your nana" is not a crime not is it homophobic, it is an observation.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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We were told that this type of behavior would never happen and we were all just bigots for saying it.

 

[Gaz]

Without knowing further details of what led to it, yeah - think it's stupid. But I don't know what led to it. I freely admit that I don't know what led to the rozzers being at her house - have heard the police statement talking about it, but nothing from the family, so I just don't know.

And as to the last, a mate took a picture of me whilst I was in the middle of scratching my arse, so by single frame examination of that incident - I like fingering my own arse. I think that's your point.

Standard disclaimer - don't ready anything I write late on a Friday night because I'm likely hammered.

 

[Fluff]

Standard disclaimer - don't ready anything I write late on a Friday night because I'm likely hammered.

Now I'm really confused.....

 

[Gaz]

I was s**tfaced when I posted that last night. Probably took me half an hour to write those two lines.

 

[Newtonk]

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The police only mentions the reason for the arrest being "suspicion of a homophobic public order offence".

In addition, she hasn't committed a "homophobic public order offence" since it happened in her own house.
Also, being compared to "your nana" is not a crime not is it homophobic, it is an observation.

Just before we wrap this up and move on to the next burning issue of the day, why oh why would you take a youth into custody who was "nuro diverse" being the new metaphor for mentally disordered? The risk to the department of having such a person outweighs the benefit, if any, of the arrest. Look at the damage done in the eyes of the family and everyone they tell.

And as for the statement around no further action, that's just flannel bovine excrement and the usual platitudes that's roughly translate as, "we screwed up, but so what."

And this is why the police in woke western countries is no longer the winning team. Completely focused on the wrong issues. Ok, coffee time.

As you were.

 

[uktabber]

They have a saying for this in govt. management circles......"they lack administrative insight" and for West Yorks Police, that bloody train is in the station!!
In America they call laws like these "barefoot laws," laws that have the effect of keeping people at bay without ever being/or seldom being actually enforced because the simple aftermath of enforcing them is far worse than the actual event itself!!! That train has now arrived at the station literally and figuratively!

Now this bloody mess has swerved both ways and the genie is WELL out of the bottle and she isn't going back in there real soon. The girls statement "because the autistic girl said that one of the officers looked like her 'lesbian nana'." at best is essentially true or could be taken as true, and thus a statement of fact, and at worst is simply an observation by a autistic person of an unknown, non-present relative. The lesbian ofcr should have been keen to this and just let that roll off her back like water on a duck, and the other ofcrs present should have taken the high road and saw this for what it was and removed the fellow ofcr from the event and pat the autistic kid on the head and shooed her off and on her way! W. Yorks Police now have another problem as I suppose many others do with hiring these ofcrs, these type of ofcrs are all hyper-concerned about being called out about their orientation and overreact and thus their overreactions become unpredictable and error on the side of just plain wrong, therefore their fitness for duty in law enforcement is dubious. This case is one of those, and we haven't even gotten to the fact that the girl said it in the confines of her home! This case AND this lesbian ofcr should both go away and soon.........

 

[Mike1976]

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[Ivan le Fou]

I guess referring to women as "bleeders", "uterus carriers", "bonus hole", etc... wasn't insulting enough.

 

[muck]

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In fairness, though, burglaries do have an atrocious crime clearance rate in virtually every jurisdiction. They're just a bitch to solve due to the nature of the act. For 2021, the ratio was 14.1% in the US, 15.7% in France and 19.5% in Germany to give just three examples.
So it's save to say that the vast majority of cases will remain unsolved.