Politics The US Presidential Election, Nov 2024.

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Notwithstanding the irrelevance of my opinion on this whole matter, from this side of the pond I must admit watching all the chickenshit celebs and 'progressive types' collectively have a meltdown brings a wry smile to my cynical old chops. Who'dve thunk collectively demonising half of the voting population would do anything but galvanise them into a big, collective 'fxck you' right back at them? They had it coming, the sanctimonious, self-aggrandising, out-of-touch, tone-deaf, pea-brained non-entities.

If anyone fancies a laugh, have a look at the Guardian website over this side of the big blue wobbly thing and try not to laugh at their digital wailing. Four more years of them shitting themselves senseless because the big bad orange man is going to be worse than Adolf - so they reckon. Well, at least our own politicians will be able to take care of the relationship the UK has with our most important ally. I mean, it's not as if our Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary have ever said anything derogatory about the new President. These guys are seasoned pros, aren't they? There's no way they'd ever use ad hominem style insults to describe Donald? Is there? Is there?

*on a more serious note, I hope those of us who maintain the real working relationships with our US counterparts are left to continue the good work we do. I'd hate for the politicians to once again undermine the serious work of keeping us safe from those who would do us harm...
 
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A meme for the left,
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What happens when your rainbow feels hit reality, your emotions crashed on the rocks on economy, mass illegal migration, unaffordable housing, and rising violent crime.

Long live the Don
 
Just as long as you guys remember, that the majority of the Democrats as well as Republicans are not as vitriol as what you see in echo chambers. From my POV the people voted for who they connected to the most. That is where Donals runs circles to Kamala. Even the missing 15 million voted by their feet "none of the two really connected and no it wasnt a battle between good and evil, it was just two candidates running for election"

All the talks about "facism and communism" was just vitriol used by medio and politics. America isnt as divided as most people think, thats what this election showed.

The Dems took a play from the "opposition" in the Philippines, along with the slogans of "you must be and idiot to vote for the other guy" they went so much here as having people going to the "poor" to teach them why they should vote for the other guy... results were the same, got their asses handed to them in a landslide. Yet they still blame the other guys instead of themselves, the arrogance
 
No, not really. Biden was Trump's most productive election aide in this campaign.

As someone that's worked for a political party, I'm both stunned and amused by how bad the Democrats' campaign was. Actually, I think it was the worst election campaign I've ever seen in a Western democracy. I'd been expecting this result for well over a year.

Each step on their downwards spiral, in chronological order:

1.
The Democrats' refusal to accept they've been losing some minorities, and that their post-materialist positions don't win elections. For ten years, they've been relying solely on the hope that America loathes Trump more than it does whoever becomes the blue candidate. Terrible idea, marketing-wise. You don't get people to buy a BMW by pointing at a Mercedes and being like, "isn't that an ugly car, why would you wanna own such an ugly car"? You have to give them a reason to buy your product, not just a reason not to buy another's product.

2.
Afghanistan. Sullivan's management of the botched withdrawal did lasting damage to Biden's reputation. I was quite surprised back then Biden didn't start his every sentence for the rest of the year with "this was Trump's doing, he negotiated with the Taleban and signed a treaty forcing me to withdraw" – because from a purely strategic standpoint, that's what he should've been doing.

3.
The trials against Trump. It doesn't matter how merited the accusations were, they aided Trump and hurt Biden. A blue district attorney pushing boring white collar crime charges in a blue state? That gifted Trump with a narrative that in him, the Democrats were trying to sabotage a rival. And everyone hates saboteurs.

4.
Biden's refusal to see himself as a transition candidate. He should have been realistic about his strength and renounced a second term by the midterms. Egged on by a biased media sphere, no one on the left side of the aisle wanted to admit that Trump was right (until it was far too late): Biden was too old and didn't have the energy for a second term.

5.
Biden's refusal to build a successor. Trump went to great lengths to portray Harris as a bad vice president, but the fact is she actually didn't even have a track record of her own. Biden didn't give her any serious projects of her own for which she could've kept the credit if successful. Many Americans didn't even know Harris.

6.
Speaking of track records: Biden had successes (denying this would be as disingenuous as denying Trump had successes in his first term), but he never made an effort to sell them. And it shows, considering how many registered Democrats didn't vote this time. For a time I'd thought he was simply too old-school in his communication, trusting in the voters' interest in political matters; but I've come to think he was simply too old and haggard to defend his record (or whatever he thought his record was).

7.
Gaza and Ukraine. On both issues, Biden tried to strike a balance between the two poles of his party and failed. In both cases, he did too much from one side's perspective and too little from the other's, failing to please either, which cost him (and Harris) some blue support.

8.
Biden's late withdrawal, the whole party reeking of panic. With that decision, they basically said: Trump will win if we don't start from scratch now. All the voters heard was: Trump is probably going to win. You can't prop up your rival more than this.

9.
The selection of Kamala Harris as a candidate. They only picked her because she was "kinda next in line", and expected America to be satisfied with that explanation. Again, they only ever relied on antipathy towards Trump and never gave a reason to vote for Harris.

10.
That disastrous interview. Asked if she'd done anything differently in Biden's place, she said no. That was the biggest blunder of her own making and really set the mood: If you don't like Biden, you won't like Harris. And you've heard it from Harris herself. She didn't even try to set herself apart from Biden, completely ignoring Biden's terrible approval ratings. Mind-bogglingly incompetent!

It is quite telling the media landscape is now once again characterised by disbelief, despair and even anger, and that millions of Americans are being labelled as patriarchal right-wing extremists. They still don't get it. They don't get it that they essentially created Trump.

And think what you want about Kamala Harris, but it was an uphill battle for her. She might've stood a better chance had the decision made in late July actually been made a year or two before that. This … this was never going to work.

Communication-wise, it was a disaster of epic proportions. I'm only half-joking when I say that the Dems should demand their money back from whichever strategist put their campaign together, because that someone did a terrible job.

tl;dr: If the Democrats want a scapegoat, they need look no further than Biden.
 
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I think this election can be resumed in one sentence
"The garbage has won"
 
When asked what went wrong. The democrat adviser for biggest donor pact had no illusions and pointed to the simple worded question put forward by one on the view..what would you have done differently from Joe Biden?
After a while of self wonderment Kamala replies that she couldn't think of anything she'd have done differently than President Joe Biden during the last four years. As Muck lists is not pretty four years and as the results show was not well digested by the USA despite them continually claiming all was well with illegal migrants afghanistan groceries...
Her campaign was for change and hard joyful work. Where have we heard that from.. her marxist father she never mentions and is re-inventing Mao.
Battling with heaven is endless joy, fighting with the earth is endless joy, and struggling with humanity is endless joy.
The view thought they had tossed her a softball, she couldn't think of a single policy.
It blew up Kamala.
 
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Notwithstanding the irrelevance of my opinion on this whole matter, from this side of the pond I must admit watching all the chickenshit celebs and 'progressive types' collectively have a meltdown brings a wry smile to my cynical old chops. Who'dve thunk collectively demonising half of the voting population would do anything but galvanise them into a big, collective 'fxck you' right back at them? They had it coming, the sanctimonious, self-aggrandising, out-of-touch, tone-deaf, pea-brained non-entities.

If anyone fancies a laugh, have a look at the Guardian website over this side of the big blue wobbly thing and try not to laugh at their digital wailing. Four more years of them shitting themselves senseless because the big bad orange man is going to be worse than Adolf - so they reckon. Well, at least our own politicians will be able to take care of the relationship the UK has with our most important ally. I mean, it's not as if our Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary have ever said anything derogatory about the new President. These guys are seasoned pros, aren't they? There's no way they'd ever use ad hominem style insults to describe Donald? Is there? Is there?

*on a more serious note, I hope those of us who maintain the real working relationships with our US counterparts are left to continue the good work we do. I'd hate for the politicians to once again undermine the serious work of keeping us safe from those who would do us harm...

Indeed.

And what is interesting is how similar to the post-covid the situation is, in term of behavior from the side that had a track record of being particularly hyperactive about the issue.
Once the result came in the tune changed radically, along with their activism, and they quickly turned coat calling for "amnesty", "forgiveness", "let's turn the page and start fresh", "let's forget the past", etc...

Same behavior here, but not quite, all things considered. The brainrot isn't secluded to some isolated echo-chambers, it is institutionalized. Be it in the media (movies, games, tv-shows), the news (tv, internet, printed), workplace, etc...
 
Just as long as you guys remember, that the majority of the Democrats as well as Republicans are not as vitriol as what you see in echo chambers. From my POV the people voted for who they connected to the most. That is where Donals runs circles to Kamala. Even the missing 15 million voted by their feet "none of the two really connected and no it wasnt a battle between good and evil, it was just two candidates running for election"

All the talks about "facism and communism" was just vitriol used by medio and politics. America isnt as divided as most people think, thats what this election showed.

The Dems took a play from the "opposition" in the Philippines, along with the slogans of "you must be and idiot to vote for the other guy" they went so much here as having people going to the "poor" to teach them why they should vote for the other guy... results were the same, got their asses handed to them in a landslide. Yet they still blame the other guys instead of themselves, the arrogance
The patronizing is what really annoys me and makes me want to vote for the "other guy" so badly even if it is a road sign

But that is their pattern through all the left in the entire world
 
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