Politics Tariffs/Trade Wars

[Hiryu2.0]

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[Chazman]

It's costing the CCP billions of US Dollars per day to keep the Yuan from collapsing and yet.......

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[Chazman]

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[LimaCharles]

Low tariffs on Central and South America, high on Asia. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure how that will relocate the supply chain.

I'm okay with this. Build up a friendlier closer nation to us economically and we'll potentially create reasons for them to stay there instead of coming here illegally.

The Dems missed a great opportunity with making a New Deal 2.0 by bringing manufacturing back to the US or at least to one of the Americas. Instead we got a new green grift "deal" (scam).

 

[Hiryu2.0]

 

[Junglejim]

I'm okay with this. Build up a friendlier closer nation to us economically and we'll potentially create reasons for them to stay there instead of coming here illegally.

The Dems missed a great opportunity with making a New Deal 2.0 by bringing manufacturing back to the US or at least to one of the Americas. Instead we got a new green grift "deal" (scam).

Ok, lets just dive in on this. Which country is the US looking at?
- How are their power generation
- Factory to port logistics
- Labor laws and wages
- Skill level of the workforce
- Vicinity to actual resources
- Mining laws and infrastructure (before it can be made, it has to be mined)

The time alone it takes to build a new port, say a decade.

Now, the US could have played it smarter by slowly doing this, its is after all what they did to China back in the day. But with the actions of Trump, the US basically showed the world their intentions. So now those countries affected will make sure that the plan of the US will be costly.... the top 4 largest ship building nations are all on the wrong side of the pond, along with port crane productions.

I dont really see how the US is blaming the world for a system that it created, managed and took advantaged off. There is the reason why you are the richest nation and not someone lese, aka... you are the one benefitting most from the current system and not China or Cambodia. If your people are suffering maybe start looking internally? Is it intentional (aka the oligarchs making sure you stay poorer)? Or just a by product of a system that needs to be fixed (less military and more infrastructure)?

It is a nice brain exercise.

 

[madmax17]

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[LimaCharles]

Ok, lets just dive in on this. Which country is the US looking at?
- How are their power generation
- Factory to port logistics
- Labor laws and wages
- Skill level of the workforce
- Vicinity to actual resources
- Mining laws and infrastructure (before it can be made, it has to be mined)

The time alone it takes to build a new port, say a decade.

Now, the US could have played it smarter by slowly doing this, its is after all what they did to China back in the day. But with the actions of Trump, the US basically showed the world their intentions. So now those countries affected will make sure that the plan of the US will be costly.... the top 4 largest ship building nations are all on the wrong side of the pond, along with port crane productions.

I dont really see how the US is blaming the world for a system that it created, managed and took advantaged off. There is the reason why you are the richest nation and not someone lese, aka... you are the one benefitting most from the current system and not China or Cambodia. If your people are suffering maybe start looking internally? Is it intentional (aka the oligarchs making sure you stay poorer)? Or just a by product of a system that needs to be fixed (less military and more infrastructure)?

It is a nice brain exercise.

I blame Bill Clinton, not the world. I also blame people slaved to a price point and not interested in saving or expanding US jobs unless it's a price point that they are still slaved to. And I blame those who voted for him who live in a world of double standards for a POS that's a known socialist, grifter, pedophile, adulterer, draft dodger, LIAR, crime family head, who right now needs to fall off this world.

Anyways....had they concentrated on something that actually helps us instead of some trash grift that they benefit from financially that their useful idiotic voters would never see a dime of....then things would have already been in motion. It's not much of a brain puzzle really.

 

[Telmar]

I blame Bill Clinton, not the world. I also blame people slaved to a price point and not interested in saving or expanding US jobs unless it's a price point that they are still slaved to. And I blame those who voted for him who live in a world of double standards for a POS that's a known socialist, grifter, pedophile, adulterer, draft dodger, LIAR, crime family head, who right now needs to fall off this world.

Anyways....had they concentrated on something that actually helps us instead of some trash grift that they benefit from financially that their useful idiotic voters would never see a dime of....then things would have already been in motion. It's not much of a brain puzzle really.

Clinton was more than 30 years ago. If he did have bad policies, there were many opportunities to turn them around. although the federal budget was balanced and unemployment was low at that time.

 

[LimaCharles]

Clinton was more than 30 years ago. If he did have bad policies, there were many opportunities to turn them around. although the federal budget was balanced and unemployment was low at that time.

Timeline argument is irrelevant. There is no "if" here, it's bright as daylight obvious when fact checking things. Who was going to turn them around? Bush II a RINO? Obama another fan of China? Trump who wasn't savvy yet to this? Biden reopening the doors and even helped protect China?

 

[Telmar]

Timeline argument is irrelevant. There is no "if" here, it's bright as daylight obvious when fact checking things. Who was going to turn them around? Bush II a RINO? Obama another fan of China? Trump who wasn't savvy yet to this? Biden reopening the doors and even helped protect China?

I blame Teddy Roosevelt.

 

[HorniePonie]

I blame Teddy Roosevelt.

I blame George III.

 

[thelistener]

The Dems missed a great opportunity with making a New Deal 2.0 by bringing manufacturing back to the US or at least to one of the Americas. Instead we got a new green grift "deal" (scam).

Is this manufacturing rise that green grift deal (scam)?

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edit. genuine question, i don't know.

 

[madmax17]

Clinton was more than 30 years ago. If he did have bad policies, there were many opportunities to turn them around. although the federal budget was balanced and unemployment was low at that time.

90's were golden, also no war.

 

[Mike1976]

What surprises me the most is the state of US infrastructure when taking into account military spending. Europe and the US have both neglected infrastructure, but where as Europe considered it's armed forces redundant and so could relax infrastructure requirements the US has spent upwards of 10% of the federal budget continuously to retain so much military power.

So much money spent on bases and logistics around the world as well as weappnry, but the US manufacturing base and the infrastructure needed to move troops and goods around has been left to rot. All muscle and no stamina. This is failing at Strategy 101.

 

[LimaCharles]

90's were golden, also no war.

Somalia. Yugo civil wars. Refused to have OBL killed. Low morale in the US mil, lack of funding for even critical things, Monica Lewinsky, embassy bombings, USS Cole bombed, Waco, Ruby Ridge which created a retaliatory terrorist attack in OKC....I can go on. much gOlDeN, also lol there were wars.

 

[thelistener]

Somalia. Yugo civil wars. Refused to have OBL killed. Low morale in the US mil, lack of funding for even critical things, Monica Lewinsky, embassy bombings, USS Cole bombed, Waco, Ruby Ridge which created a retaliatory terrorist attack in OKC....I can go on. much gOlDeN, also lol there were wars.

And Gulf war, right? You say US mil had low morale in the 90s, did this impact gulf war or was it afterwards?

 

[Chazman]

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[LimaCharles]

And Gulf war, right? You say US mil had low morale in the 90s, did this impact gulf war or was it afterwards?

He was saying it was peaceful and golden under Billy boi Clinton. It was indeed not and this was obviously afterwards.