Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[surfpunk]

Probably already answered, but Mig29 can handle fairly rough, so a road would be ok.

I think most/all Russian planes are designed to operate in austere conditions

 

[primer]

There are many layers of facts and events here. It's complicated business. The Col. brings up some valid points. Trey Gowdy completely misses the points. He's like a deer in your headlights. Would have been interesting if Macgregor and Griffin could debate instead of waiting until he's off the air and then both of them attacking him. What they are doing is declaring there is only one narrative, don't you dare disagree!

The same people who were intertwined and part and parcel with Ukrainian corruption, who started the whole "Russian Collusion" scam ("He'll Start WW3!!!!!!!!!!!), and Trump impeachment are the same people who are now calling for "no fly zones" and for NATO/US to have direct combat with Russia. Those people are all scum, willing to burn the world down for money and power.

My position is clear on this conflict, I support the Ukrainian people and I oppose Putin's actions. But this didn't have to happen. It was almost engineered TO happen. Let's be suspicious of those who WANTED this to happen and who use it for a call for a wider war.

Simple fact is the Ukrainians didn't fold according to the intelligence. Nor in realty are they simply going to toss up their hands like the strategist suggests. They are in it for democracy. Would have been better to support them.
His scenario simply does not exist in the real world. is just whatabout BS.

Same with Carlson quite often actually.
Deriding them with they are a corrupt state is just talk. Thats an excuse to simply let them become a client of Putin? Fuckin weak.
They should have met some Ukrainians instead of spouting proven assumptions.

Spent billions on afghan who weren't the least interested in become part of the west. Geniuses.

 

[Hiryu2.0]

 

[Hiryu2.0]

Russian bombing of Kyiv damages Babi Yar Holocaust memorial site

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Hiryu2.0]

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[Chazman]

These DNR-asts were taken PoW:

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Note the steel helmets.

 

[primer]

Hoping to liberate some more farmland. Do a little ethnic clensing.

 

[surfpunk]

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dead island soldiers speak out. please supply a grain of salt...

 

[Chazman]

Simple fact is the Ukrainians didn't fold according to the intelligence. Nor in realty are they simply going to toss up their hands like the strategist suggests. They are in it for democracy. Would have been better to support them.
His scenario simply does not exist in the real world. is just whatabout BS.

Same with Carlson quite often actually.
Deriding them with they are a corrupt state is just talk. Thats an excuse to simply let them become a client of Putin? Fuckin weak.
They should have met some Ukrainians instead of spouting proven assumptions.

Spent billions on afghan who weren't the least interested in become part of the west. Geniuses.

I think that misses the point. The Ukrainians have fought well. Most of us support them in this fight. Most of us hope they are victorious.

But for the last decade, Ukraine has been someone's client state. The Client state of the US dept of State, the EU, Davos. The corruption has be mind boggling. Everyone was corrupt. Everyone made millions. I think I mentioned previously that this would be a discussion I'd like to have after this war is over. But it's an important discussion.

Both Mcgregor and while you're at it Tucker Carlson are of the opinion of, why should American kids go and fight and die for a foreign border when an American border has been completely abandoned and undefended. And I agree with that. That doesn't make anyone pro-Putin or anti-Ukrainian people. Just aware of what the powerful dynamics at play are.

 

[Fluff]

Just about 1/6 of the hypersonic speed.

Very accurate Terminal guidance cruise missile, probably very handy to have around.......

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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Soldiers (though from an invading country) pointing their guns at civilians to whom guns have been handed over, who have been called to make molotov cocktails and "throw them at the invaders".

Lots of ambushes going on in Ukrainian cities.

Can't really blame them Russian soldiers to be on their guard.

 

[Marjanpapou]

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[Ivan le Fou]

Ukraine may launch preventive missile strike on Belarus if decision made – Danilov

Ukraine may launch a preventive missile strike on Belarus if the commander-in-chief makes the appropriate decision, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Oleksiy Danilov has said.

en.interfax.com.ua

Chairman of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Danilov says that Ukraine may launch a preventive missile strike on Belarus, "If necessary, if a decision is made by the commander-in-chief to do so, it will be done".

 

[Fluff]

A bit long but great:

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Well no Russian invasion of Uk, then, because Radio Shack closed down about 4 years ago...

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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Thermobaric strike on Karkhiv airbase (possibly ammo dump just like Cherkasy/Ouman).

edit:

Likely thermobaric strike on an ammo depot near Malynivka.
geo-located 49°47'00.5"N 36°40'08.1"E

 

[Redav]

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[Fluff]

EU already said there's a long way to consider Ukraine into the team. I doubt it will hapoen on shortime.

Turkey is another thing. The sultan needs to back down first.
I won't go off-topic on this one thou

When peace comes, I'm sure 'associatespecialfuturememberstatus' can be created. Or in German 'associatespecialfuturememberstatus'

 

[Fluff]

Now that's an interesting picture to think about. The first is the mud. It can be advanced, but tankers are the predictables, gobbling up fuel, The TOS Buratino has only recently emerged, on the battlefield, in what might be called the more elite 'strike units.
One more question: can this be used to make an IED?
Let's just say that if I were on the crew of this piece of S**t right now and I was stuck in the mud in Ukraine I would get the hell out of there as fast as I could. I'd have about as much chance of being captured as a flamethrower on my back in a world war.

Anyone seen much recovery gear ? Engineer tanks?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Won't share the gruesome video but there's footage from Kherson where the exact thing happened that everyone said would happen if untrained civilians attack soldiers with Molotov cocktails.

To no one's surprise it turns out that running through open space and attacking a vehicle that has a machine gun on top can end rather badly.

If you really wanna see it search сиреневый парк херсон on youtube.

Some will probably call that "dying a hero" though.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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Clown show.