Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[primer]

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So much better engineered than Russia

 

[HorniePonie]

Lavrov: No compromise on Ukraine, any foreign presence in Ukraine = act of war.

Clearly a regime you can negotiate with

Definitely not warmongers but peace doves.

 

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Lavrov: No compromise on Ukraine, any foreign presence in Ukraine = act of war.

Unless they are from North Korea!

 

[Jake84]

Will explain later in detail. You can also not buy "Mein Kampf" here for example.

It was once available online and out of curiosity assuming that was the original one was very poorly written.

I read two pages of it before I was done with « Die Juden yadayadayada… »

About as much a great writer as a great painter, but an impressive orator otherwise.

On topic: Trump wants tariffs and strong sanctions against Russia as of today. All good because they’re pounding Ukraine but it’s been the case for about three years. Oh and as of the last hour he think it’s gonna be harder to negotiate with Ukraine than Russia.

Bit hard to make up his mind apparently. But if he wants peace I’ll follow; just under which terms?

 

[primer]

Russian TV bot called Trump a superman. The opposite from Ukraine

 

[primer]

US President Donald Trump has threatened new sanctions and tariffs on Russia over its bombardments of Ukraine, after previously suspending US aid to Kyiv in a stated bid to encourage diplomacy.

His comments, published on the Truth Social platform, came hours after Russia launched a “massive” drone and missile attack on Ukrainian energy facilities overnight.

“Based on the fact that Russia is absolutely ‘pounding’ Ukraine on the battlefield right now, I am strongly considering large-scale Banking Sanctions, Sanctions, and Tariffs on Russia until a Cease Fire and FINAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT ON PEACE IS REACHED,” Trump wrote.

The increased pounding

 

[Chazman]

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[Fluff]

I think trump is emulating Elon. He asked both sides if they want talks, the Russians said yes, the ill advised zelinsky said no.

Now trump sees the Russians lobbing missiles, and now he makes an adjustment, starts pushing putin.

After 3 years of no real policy, it’s not unreasonable to hit reset, but trump needs to learn the lessons quick, and make big adjustments, and zelinsky needs better advice.

Could be an interesting weekend.

 

[Telmar]

I think trump is emulating Elon. He asked both sides if they want talks, the Russians said yes, the ill advised zelinsky said no.

Now trump sees the Russians lobbing missiles, and now he makes an adjustment, starts pushing putin.

After 3 years of no real policy, it’s not unreasonable to hit reset, but trump needs to learn the lessons quick, and make big adjustments, and zelinsky needs better advice.

Could be an interesting weekend.

That ship has sailed. A couple of hours later it´s back to how hard it is to deal with Ukraine and Putin is generous.

 

[Chazman]

I think trump is emulating Elon. He asked both sides if they want talks, the Russians said yes, the ill advised zelinsky said no.

Now trump sees the Russians lobbing missiles, and now he makes an adjustment, starts pushing putin.

After 3 years of no real policy, it’s not unreasonable to hit reset, but trump needs to learn the lessons quick, and make big adjustments, and zelinsky needs better advice.

Could be an interesting weekend.

The US and Ukraine meet in Saudi Arabia next week to hammer a few things out. Locating it in SA is significant, but maybe a discussion for another thread. I believe Zelensky was ill-advised by people who are financially invested in continuing the war. I suppose in that regard they were successful in temporarily derailing progress.

It's obvious he is getting peeved at Putin. But he needs to get Ukraine, (or rather it's leader) in line first.

 

[Chazman]

That ship has sailed. A couple of hours later it´s back to how hard it is to deal with Ukraine and Putin is generous.

Tell me the alternate peace plan.

 

[Telmar]

Tell me the alternate peace plan.

I did´nt notice one was on the table.

 

[Chazman]

I did´nt notice one was on the table.

Precisely.

 

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[Mark Sman]

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This is for the best. Europe should take their defense seriously even if it wasn't for the Russia Ukraine war.

I just hope that not too great a percent gets wasted or siphoned off.