Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[HorniePonie]

Interceptors have the range of thousands of kilometres. The nuclear blast will occur over taiga or tundra or Europe depending which direction they are coming from. Ecological disaster yes but still better than bunch of MIRVs landing in the middle of Moscow.

Oh honey...

 

[Fluff]

Interceptors have the range of thousands of kilometres. The nuclear blast will occur over taiga or tundra or Europe depending which direction they are coming from. Ecological disaster yes but still better than bunch of MIRVs landing in the middle of Moscow.

Pictures I've seen of Russia, makes me question some of your points.....

 

[xuyantrop]

Russia must be looking forward to many more great victories, 400K dead, 600K wounded, which means maimed/disabled for life. The treasure left by USSR pissed into the fields of Ukr. The mighty Russian Air force couldn't and still hasn't got air superiority even temporarily over Ukraine.

I would temper your claims of victory, Trump is holding all the cards, including Putins.

Highly doubtful your figures are correct. Anyway I think Ukraine lost more men. A lot of Western military equipment destroyed. Despite all the chest beating you guys failed in nearly everything - defeating Russia militarily, destroying her economy or isolating her diplomatically. And the whole World could see this.

 

[HorniePonie]

Highly doubtful your figures are correct. Anyway I think Ukraine lost more men. A lot of Western military equipment destroyed. Despite all the chest beating you guys failed in nearly everything - defeating Russia militarily, destroying her economy or isolating her diplomatically. And the whole World could see this.

What is your opinion on what kind of concessions Trump can make Russia do, if they still manage to make a deal somehow? We aren't all quite unanimous on this yet.

 

[Musashi]

The point is its neither US nor Poland's business. Germans want it. As per most recent AfD leader statement.

Her statement is totally irrelevant, as neither she nor her party is going to rule Germany. The Germans are not stupid enough to allow it to happen. AfD has not won the elections and nobody will take it as a coalition partner.

 

[xuyantrop]

What is your opinion on what kind of concessions Trump can make Russia do, if they still manage to make a deal somehow? We aren't all quite unanimous on this yet.

Main question for me is what will they ask in return. Nothing comes for free in this World obviously. Not in the Free World at least. I would be extremely cautious about putting our highly valued relations with PRC at risk to be honest. But I sincerely wish to end of bloodbath and some sort of dialogue resumed.

 

[Fluff]

Highly doubtful your figures are correct. Anyway I think Ukraine lost more men. A lot of Western military equipment destroyed. Despite all the chest beating you guys failed in nearly everything - defeating Russia militarily, destroying her economy or isolating her diplomatically. And the whole World could see this.

for the 2nd time today, war is not a football match. You do know that NATO sent all its worn out crap to Ukraine?

Its unlikely Russia in its current form will survive, the demographics were terrible before the war, now with 500K men of fighting age out of the pool, its not going to get better.

Russia literally could not engineer a coup de grace, in the country next door, a country so poor it sold its nukes.

Really I would wait until we see the art of the deal.....

 

[Picanha]

Highly doubtful your figures are correct. Anyway I think Ukraine lost more men. A lot of Western military equipment destroyed. Despite all the chest beating you guys failed in nearly everything - defeating Russia militarily, destroying her economy or isolating her diplomatically. And the whole World could see this.

The art of arguing like a Russian?

We failed? At what? We didn't try anything you guys did.

But as a good Russian you can move the goalpost to where it suits you best.

 

[Musashi]

100 exactly.

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[PEMM]

Highly doubtful your figures are correct. Anyway I think Ukraine lost more men. A lot of Western military equipment destroyed. Despite all the chest beating you guys failed in nearly everything - defeating Russia militarily, destroying her economy or isolating her diplomatically. And the whole World could see this.

It doesn't sound like these guys are very discouraged from starting another war somewhere after the peace treaty.

 

[Fluff]

It doesn't sound like these guys are very discouraged from starting another war somewhere after the peace treaty.

Well NATO discouraged them for 70 years, so I'd suggest we go with NATO.

almost makes we want to get to carbon neutral, just to F*** with the russian economy.....

 

[Musashi]

I've forgotten to add that these 100 Polish tanks will make the p1ss deal more complicated.

 

[xuyantrop]

for the 2nd time today, war is not a football match. You do know that NATO sent all its worn out crap to Ukraine?

You probably mean Abrams, Bradley, Leopards etc?

Its unlikely Russia in its current form will survive, the demographics were terrible before the war, now with 500K men of fighting age out of the pool, its not going to get better.

Russia literally could not engineer a coup de grace, in the country next door, a country so poor it sold its nukes.

Really I would wait until we see the art of the deal.....

You guys did your best so Russia doesnt survive. But she did. You failed. Just be a man and admit it.

 

[HorniePonie]

You probably mean Abrams, Bradley, Leopards etc?

You guys did your best so Russia doesnt survive. But she did. You failed. Just be a man and admit it.

What are the industrial investments looking like in Russia besides the military products? How much are the interest rates for company loans?

 

[Fluff]

You probably mean Abrams, Bradley, Leopards etc?

You guys did your best so Russia doesnt survive. But she did. You failed. Just be a man and admit it.

You were mostly up agaisnt Ukr conscripts, using USSR designed weapons. Very few western tanks were sent, a lot of Polish T72 etc were sent.
As ukr liked to say, russian stuff works just fine for Ukr.

We did nothing like our best, no NATO troops, no NATO tanks in Ukr. No awacs, no stealth fighters.

And Russia made the action, it is Russia's responsibility, and it failed, kiev in 3 days, comrade.....

 

[xuyantrop]

The art of arguing like a Russian?

We failed? At what? We didn't try anything you guys did.

But as a good Russian you can move the goalpist to where it suits you best.

Come on boss. Russia was under unprecedented pressure from the Western World in effort to subjugate her humiliate her or whatever. Military aid to Ukraine, economic sanctions, diplomatic pressure etc etc. This effort failed. Admit it.

 

[PEMM]

You guys did your best so Russia doesnt survive. But she did. You failed. Just be a man and admit it.

People might be confused. From RusNewspeak this translates to "You did your best to stop Russian invasion of Ukraine."

Which itself is wrong, we have been half-assing from the beginning.

 

[primer]

You probably mean Abrams, Bradley, Leopards etc?

You guys did your best so Russia doesnt survive. But she did. You failed. Just be a man and admit it.

For a while we thought you were sane. I have to admit that was wrong.

 

[Chazman]

Highly doubtful your figures are correct. Anyway I think Ukraine lost more men. A lot of Western military equipment destroyed. Despite all the chest beating you guys failed in nearly everything - defeating Russia militarily, destroying her economy or isolating her diplomatically. And the whole World could see this.

We may have been misinformed. What are the actual figures?

 

[xuyantrop]

What are the industrial investments looking like in Russia besides the military products? How much are the interest rates for company loans?

Rouble is strengthening btw. Markets are reacting to the change of rhetoric by US. I expect rouble to reach its pre-war value very soon. This will make rate cuts by Russian Central Bank possible.